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Title: Expressions no longer used
Post by: SusanDoris on June 21, 2015, 08:12:15 AM
It occurred to me the other day that I haven't heard the expression, 'It's the gospel truth!' for a very long time. I don't think I have ever used it myself but I think if it was used today, say, on the radio, many people would wince slightly! Or perhaps they would feel a slightly  somewhat subconscious wince! Anyway, just thought I'd mention it. :)
Title: Re: Expressions no longer used
Post by: OH MY WORLD! on June 21, 2015, 08:38:32 AM
Perhaps the Godless would wince before reaching a full blown meltdown. I have and never will wince at that expression. Honest injun.
Title: Re: Expressions no longer used
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 21, 2015, 08:48:14 AM
Not sure I would notice it, depends on context
Title: Re: Expressions no longer used
Post by: Hope on June 21, 2015, 09:37:30 AM
It occurred to me the other day that I haven't heard the expression, 'It's the gospel truth!' for a very long time. I don't think I have ever used it myself but I think if it was used today, say, on the radio, many people would wince slightly! Or perhaps they would feel a slightly  somewhat subconscious wince! Anyway, just thought I'd mention it. :)
I've heard it on the BBC (TV and radio) quite often over the last few months - and usually in contexts far divorced from religion.  I wouldn't say that the usage has been any greater than previously, but certainly no less.
Title: Re: Expressions no longer used
Post by: SusanDoris on June 21, 2015, 10:13:35 AM
Thank you for posts.
 Anyone know of other similar phrases which are perhaps less used today?
JC - Would you agree that the word 'godless' is derogatory and the word 'atheist' is neutral?

Title: Re: Expressions no longer used
Post by: Shaker on June 21, 2015, 10:15:38 AM
Rather stupidly he usually uses both words together  ::)
Title: Re: Expressions no longer used
Post by: Gonnagle on June 21, 2015, 10:34:30 AM
Dear Susan,

Atheist neutral, a strange word for me, it sort of reminds me of a full stop.

Sam Harris wanted to step away from the word, change it to something like freethinkers, Daniel Dennett had the bright idea of Brights, I think it still is a dirty word in America.

Any way, I would give a black man a cup of tea, and do you think I came up the Clyde in a banana boat!!

Is that what you were looking for.

Gonnagle.
Title: Re: Expressions no longer used
Post by: Sebastian Toe on June 21, 2015, 12:44:12 PM
"It's better than a slater up your nose"

I haven't heard that for a long time, one of my granny's favourites.
Title: Re: Expressions no longer used
Post by: floo on June 21, 2015, 03:55:29 PM
It occurred to me the other day that I haven't heard the expression, 'It's the gospel truth!' for a very long time. I don't think I have ever used it myself but I think if it was used today, say, on the radio, many people would wince slightly! Or perhaps they would feel a slightly  somewhat subconscious wince! Anyway, just thought I'd mention it. :)

I have heard the expression fairly recently! As there is no verification there is any truth in the gospel accounts, the phrase 'gospel truth' means zilch! ::)
Title: Re: Expressions no longer used
Post by: Hope on June 21, 2015, 04:15:24 PM
Thank you for posts.
 Anyone know of other similar phrases which are perhaps less used today?
JC - Would you agree that the word 'godless' is derogatory and the word 'atheist' is neutral?
I'd suggest that the terms 'godless' and 'atheist' are about as neutral as each other.  They both describe a similar condition of mind.
Title: Re: Expressions no longer used
Post by: OH MY WORLD! on June 21, 2015, 05:14:52 PM
You want it to be derogatory Susan, that's you option. But if you would bother to look up it's definition you will find that making the word derogatory is an invention of some of you godless.
Title: Re: Expressions no longer used
Post by: OH MY WORLD! on June 21, 2015, 05:16:38 PM
Oh, and Susan, do you mean derogatory as in the way many here use the word fundie? Too funnty.
Title: Re: Expressions no longer used
Post by: SusanDoris on June 21, 2015, 06:20:13 PM
Oh, and Susan, do you mean derogatory as in the way many here use the word fundie? Too funnty.
Thank you for your replies.  No, not meaning 'fundy', I was thinking about the way it seems to me that the adjective 'godless' is used  to show pity for the poor - usually atheists! - people who have no god in their lives! For myself, I know there is no missing piece in my life, no space that needs such a thing or such an idea as a god to be complete and whole.

As far as what sort of expressions I was thinking of, I had no set idea in mind, but I suppose I was thinking mainly of sayings with religious, mainly biblical connections and which no longer make any sense.
I agree with your last post, floo.
Title: Re: Expressions no longer used
Post by: splashscuba on June 21, 2015, 08:13:12 PM
You want it to be derogatory Susan, that's you option. But if you would bother to look up it's definition you will find that making the word derogatory is an invention of some of you godless.
does that make you godmore ?
Title: Re: Expressions no longer used
Post by: Owlswing on July 22, 2015, 03:36:09 PM
You want it to be derogatory Susan, that's you option. But if you would bother to look up it's definition you will find that making the word derogatory is an invention of some of you godless.
does that make you godmore ?

No it makes him Godbore!
Title: Re: Expressions no longer used
Post by: Outrider on July 23, 2015, 12:09:33 PM
JC - Would you agree that the word 'godless' is derogatory and the word 'atheist' is neutral?

As an atheist I'd say that most people who'd use 'Godless' probably mean 'atheist' in a derogatory way. The difference is that we're all 'godless', it's just that the atheists have realised...

O.
Title: Re: Expressions no longer used
Post by: Nearly Sane on July 23, 2015, 12:11:46 PM
JC - Would you agree that the word 'godless' is derogatory and the word 'atheist' is neutral?

As an atheist I'd say that most people who'd use 'Godless' probably mean 'atheist' in a derogatory way. The difference is that we're all 'godless', it's just that the atheists have realised...

O.

Long time, no see post. Welcome back O
Title: Re: Expressions no longer used
Post by: SusanDoris on July 23, 2015, 05:23:57 PM
How nice to see you posting, Outrider! :)
Title: Re: Expressions no longer used
Post by: BashfulAnthony on July 23, 2015, 05:55:33 PM
Oh, and Susan, do you mean derogatory as in the way many here use the word fundie? Too funnty.
Thank you for your replies.  No, not meaning 'fundy', I was thinking about the way it seems to me that the adjective 'godless' is used  to show pity for the poor - usually atheists! - people who have no god in their lives! For myself, I know there is no missing piece in my life, no space that needs such a thing or such an idea as a god to be complete and whole.

As far as what sort of expressions I was thinking of, I had no set idea in mind, but I suppose I was thinking mainly of sayings with religious, mainly biblical connections and which no longer make any sense.
I agree with you

How would you know, unless you had experienced it in the first place?
Title: Re: Expressions no longer used
Post by: Free Willy on July 25, 2015, 08:47:28 AM
It occurred to me the other day that I haven't heard the expression, 'It's the gospel truth!' for a very long time. I don't think I have ever used it myself but I think if it was used today, say, on the radio, many people would wince slightly! Or perhaps they would feel a slightly  somewhat subconscious wince! Anyway, just thought I'd mention it. :)
Yes the phrases ''I agree with Bertrand Russell'' and ''Hasn't that pleasant young man Richard Dawkin's got his head screwed on'', both of which also had that wincible quality, are also receding into the distant past too.....fings ain't wot they used to be.
Title: Re: Expressions no longer used
Post by: Free Willy on July 25, 2015, 08:49:17 AM
Dear Susan,

Atheist neutral, a strange word for me, it sort of reminds me of a full stop.

Sam Harris wanted to step away from the word, change it to something like freethinkers, Daniel Dennett had the bright idea of Brights,
Is that cockney rhyming slang?
Title: Re: Expressions no longer used
Post by: Sebastian Toe on July 25, 2015, 09:48:57 AM
Dear Susan,

Atheist neutral, a strange word for me, it sort of reminds me of a full stop.

Sam Harris wanted to step away from the word, change it to something like freethinkers, Daniel Dennett had the bright idea of Brights,
Is that cockney rhyming slang?
It's Gordon Bennett, not Daniel Dennett, you berk!  ;)
Title: Re: Expressions no longer used
Post by: Free Willy on July 25, 2015, 09:58:31 AM
Dear Susan,

Atheist neutral, a strange word for me, it sort of reminds me of a full stop.

Sam Harris wanted to step away from the word, change it to something like freethinkers, Daniel Dennett had the bright idea of Brights,
Is that cockney rhyming slang?
It's Gordon Bennett, not Daniel Dennett, you berk!  ;)
Vlad's shoulders shake moderately.
Title: Re: Expressions no longer used
Post by: Sebastian Toe on July 25, 2015, 04:38:36 PM
Dear Susan,

Atheist neutral, a strange word for me, it sort of reminds me of a full stop.

Sam Harris wanted to step away from the word, change it to something like freethinkers, Daniel Dennett had the bright idea of Brights,
Is that cockney rhyming slang?
It's Gordon Bennett, not Daniel Dennett, you berk!  ;)
Vlad's shoulders shake moderately.
Parkinson's or the DTs? Regardless, you should see your GP, it might be something serious.  :-\
Title: Re: Expressions no longer used
Post by: Free Willy on July 25, 2015, 06:56:20 PM
Dear Susan,

Atheist neutral, a strange word for me, it sort of reminds me of a full stop.

Sam Harris wanted to step away from the word, change it to something like freethinkers, Daniel Dennett had the bright idea of Brights,
Is that cockney rhyming slang?
It's Gordon Bennett, not Daniel Dennett, you berk!  ;)
Vlad's shoulders shake moderately.
Parkinson's or the DTs? Regardless, you should see your GP, it might be something serious.  :-\
Mild amusement at your remarks or MAYR as it is referred to on NHS choices,
Title: Re: Expressions no longer used
Post by: ~TW~ on August 21, 2015, 07:49:51 AM
It occurred to me the other day that I haven't heard the expression, 'It's the gospel truth!' for a very long time. I don't think I have ever used it myself but I think if it was used today, say, on the radio, many people would wince slightly! Or perhaps they would feel a slightly  somewhat subconscious wince! Anyway, just thought I'd mention it. :)

It depends on what camp you are in.Cross your fingers gives me the pain in the $%^&*

 ~TW~
Title: Re: Expressions no longer used
Post by: Sebastian Toe on August 21, 2015, 10:31:11 AM
It occurred to me the other day that I haven't heard the expression, 'It's the gospel truth!' for a very long time. I don't think I have ever used it myself but I think if it was used today, say, on the radio, many people would wince slightly! Or perhaps they would feel a slightly  somewhat subconscious wince! Anyway, just thought I'd mention it. :)

It depends on what camp you are in.Cross your fingers gives me the pain in the $%^&*

 ~TW~

Best only use uncrossed fingers or better still only use one finger.
Why you are going anywhere near your $%^&* with your fingers is your personal business of course!
 :o