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Title: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: Spud on June 25, 2015, 12:47:11 PM
The Hum is a phenomenon, or collection of phenomena, involving widespread reports of a persistent and invasive low-frequency humming, rumbling, or droning noise not audible to all people. Hums have been widely reported by national media in the UK and the United States. The Hum is sometimes prefixed with the name of a locality where the problem has been particularly publicized: e.g., the "Bristol Hum" or the "Taos Hum".

Data from a Taos Hum study suggests that around two percent of the population could detect the Taos Hum. For those who can hear the Hum it can be a very disturbing phenomenon.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hum
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: Leonard James on June 25, 2015, 01:48:45 PM
Supernatural bees?
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: floo on June 25, 2015, 01:56:11 PM
I have a constant humming in my ears, particularly the left one, which is due to tinnitus. I have had it for over 30 years and more prominently in the last ten years!
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: Jack Knave on June 25, 2015, 07:08:36 PM
My dad was susceptible to the hum and I am in my old age. I reckon it is low frequency industrial noise that travels through the ground for miles. My dad retired to the coast where there were oil rigs way off shore. I heard this as I got older but couldn't years before this. I reckon it must be genetic or something that causes some in their old age to start to hear this stuff....?
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: Spud on June 25, 2015, 09:59:33 PM
Thanks for sharing that, Jack. Good to know I'm not alone! I hear it at night, and sometimes I have to wear a pair of industrial mufflers. Even they don't cut the noise out completely. I am thinking that one way to reduce the noise might be to upgrade our single-glazed windows to double-glazed. I will need to check out whether that will work or not.
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: Spud on June 25, 2015, 10:01:31 PM
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I reckon it must be genetic or something that causes some in their old age to start to hear this stuff....?
I think it's over-sensitive hearing. My right ear over compensates for my left ear which is high-tone deaf. So I hear the hum with my right ear only.
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: Rhiannon on June 25, 2015, 10:07:44 PM
It seems to be entirely natural.

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/nature/have-you-heard-the-hum-mystery-of-earths-low-droning-noise-could-now-be-solved-10182111.html
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: OH MY WORLD! on June 26, 2015, 12:26:40 AM
CRAZIES!!
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: Spud on June 26, 2015, 08:33:43 AM
Two points regarding that article, Rhi and Rose. Firstly, why has it only been heard over the last forty years? There is no record of it being heard before that. Also, I don't hear it in the countryside away from the town- I would expect to if it was coming from oscillation of the earth.
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: Harrowby Hall on June 26, 2015, 08:37:23 AM
CRAZIES!!

Could you elucidate, please?
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: Jack Knave on June 26, 2015, 07:00:05 PM
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I reckon it must be genetic or something that causes some in their old age to start to hear this stuff....?
I think it's over-sensitive hearing. My right ear over compensates for my left ear which is high-tone deaf. So I hear the hum with my right ear only.
From what you have said in your two posts I'm thinking it is an internal problem. Your hum sounds too loud to be 'The Hum'. I'm not a doctor so I'm only guessing - in this case you can't trust me.
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: Jack Knave on June 26, 2015, 07:04:13 PM
The Hum is a phenomenon, or collection of phenomena, involving widespread reports of a persistent and invasive low-frequency humming, rumbling, or droning noise not audible to all people. Hums have been widely reported by national media in the UK and the United States. The Hum is sometimes prefixed with the name of a locality where the problem has been particularly publicized: e.g., the "Bristol Hum" or the "Taos Hum".

Data from a Taos Hum study suggests that around two percent of the population could detect the Taos Hum. For those who can hear the Hum it can be a very disturbing phenomenon.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hum

Fortunately no.

I haven't heard mention of " the Hum" for years. The Bristol hum was all the rage many years ago, when I was a teenager.

We also had the "bang" which turned out to be a plane, I think 😉

😀🌹

Just had a look at the bang is still around too

http://metro.co.uk/2014/11/30/loud-and-mysterious-bang-noises-heard-across-uk-4968058/
Have you heard the plop, Rose?
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: Jack Knave on June 26, 2015, 07:09:37 PM
This is interesting

"Submarines, as well as phone masts and gas pipes, were blamed for the hum Submarines, as well as masts and gas pipes, were blamed for the hum However, the search for the truth could now be over as researchers claim that microseismic activity from long ocean waves impacting the sea bed is what makes our planet vibrate and produces the droning sound.

The pressure of the waves on the seafloor generates seismic waves that cause the Earth to oscillate, said Fabrice Ardhuin, a senior research scientist at Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique in France.

The continuous waves produce sounds lasting from 13 to 300 seconds. They can be heard by a relatively small proportion of people – who are sensitive to the hums – and also by seismic instruments.

“We have made a big step in explaining this mysterious signal and where it is coming from and what is the mechanism,” Ardhuin said of the study published in Geophysical Research Letters, a journal of the American Geophysical Union."

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/nature/have-you-heard-the-hum-mystery-of-earths-low-droning-noise-could-now-be-solved-10182111.html
If it's coming from the sea that would explain the plop as well.
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: Jack Knave on June 26, 2015, 07:16:35 PM
Two points regarding that article, Rhi and Rose. Firstly, why has it only been heard over the last forty years? There is no record of it being heard before that. Also, I don't hear it in the countryside away from the town- I would expect to if it was coming from oscillation of the earth.
Good point. I only heard it where my father lived. I can't say I hear it where I am now, though I do hear some strange sounds now and again at night when it is deadly quiet.
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on June 26, 2015, 07:20:13 PM
Two points regarding that article, Rhi and Rose. Firstly, why has it only been heard over the last forty years? There is no record of it being heard before that. Also, I don't hear it in the countryside away from the town- I would expect to if it was coming from oscillation of the earth.
Good point. I only heard it where my father lived. I can't say I hear it where I am now, though I do hear some strange sounds now and again at night when it is deadly quiet.
In true Meldrevian tradition I do not hear the hum therefore it cannot exist.
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: Jack Knave on June 27, 2015, 07:21:30 PM
Two points regarding that article, Rhi and Rose. Firstly, why has it only been heard over the last forty years? There is no record of it being heard before that. Also, I don't hear it in the countryside away from the town- I would expect to if it was coming from oscillation of the earth.
Good point. I only heard it where my father lived. I can't say I hear it where I am now, though I do hear some strange sounds now and again at night when it is deadly quiet.
In true Meldrevian tradition I do not hear the hum therefore it cannot exist.
"HUMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm"

Did you hear that, Vlad?
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: Jack Knave on June 27, 2015, 07:30:54 PM
This is interesting

"Submarines, as well as phone masts and gas pipes, were blamed for the hum Submarines, as well as masts and gas pipes, were blamed for the hum However, the search for the truth could now be over as researchers claim that microseismic activity from long ocean waves impacting the sea bed is what makes our planet vibrate and produces the droning sound.

The pressure of the waves on the seafloor generates seismic waves that cause the Earth to oscillate, said Fabrice Ardhuin, a senior research scientist at Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique in France.

The continuous waves produce sounds lasting from 13 to 300 seconds. They can be heard by a relatively small proportion of people – who are sensitive to the hums – and also by seismic instruments.

“We have made a big step in explaining this mysterious signal and where it is coming from and what is the mechanism,” Ardhuin said of the study published in Geophysical Research Letters, a journal of the American Geophysical Union."

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/nature/have-you-heard-the-hum-mystery-of-earths-low-droning-noise-could-now-be-solved-10182111.html
If it's coming from the sea that would explain the plop as well.

Perhaps that's the scientist falling in 😉
Well, he/she must have been very fat!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: Jack Knave on June 27, 2015, 07:32:28 PM
Apparently, down in deepest Lincolnshire they can hear the cauliflowers growing.

http://www.lincolnshireecho.co.uk/Mysterious-creaking-noises-Lincolnshire-growing/story-26773269-detail/story.html

In Cornwall too

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/beware-cauliflower-creak-vegetables-ghostly-5949107
Nah. That's a very old man, with stiff joints, walking along the flat ground.
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on June 27, 2015, 07:37:24 PM
Apparently, down in deepest Lincolnshire they can hear the cauliflowers growing.

http://www.lincolnshireecho.co.uk/Mysterious-creaking-noises-Lincolnshire-growing/story-26773269-detail/story.html

In Cornwall too

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/beware-cauliflower-creak-vegetables-ghostly-5949107
Nah. That's a very old man, with stiff joints, walking along the flat ground.
The peripatetic Rigid Spliff Man!
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: OH MY WORLD! on June 28, 2015, 05:12:14 PM
Sure Harrowby, my pleasure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhQ9HquDNEM
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: Harrowby Hall on June 28, 2015, 11:21:34 PM
Sure Harrowby, my pleasure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhQ9HquDNEM

I'm sorry, Johnny, I understand neither the connection with this thread nor the observations of an animator on the behaviour of cats has to do with your single word contribution in your earlier response.
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: Leonard James on June 29, 2015, 09:11:11 AM
Sure Harrowby, my pleasure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhQ9HquDNEM

I'm sorry, Johnny, I understand neither the connection with this thread nor the observations of an animator on the behaviour of cats has to do with your single word contribution in your earlier response.

JC, like his "God", moves in mysterious ways.  :)
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: BashfulAnthony on June 29, 2015, 09:23:17 AM
Sure Harrowby, my pleasure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhQ9HquDNEM

I'm sorry, Johnny, I understand neither the connection with this thread nor the observations of an animator on the behaviour of cats has to do with your single word contribution in your earlier response.

JC, like his "God", moves in mysterious ways.  :)

Nothing mysterious about your ways, though.  We just need to guess which template is coming out today.
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: Leonard James on June 29, 2015, 10:27:12 AM
Sure Harrowby, my pleasure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhQ9HquDNEM

I'm sorry, Johnny, I understand neither the connection with this thread nor the observations of an animator on the behaviour of cats has to do with your single word contribution in your earlier response.

JC, like his "God", moves in mysterious ways.  :)

Nothing mysterious about your ways, though.  We just need to guess which template is coming out today.

Yes dear, you're right of course, as always!  :-*
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: Hope on June 29, 2015, 02:22:16 PM
"HUMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm"
Always thought that hum was the sound of the trains (passenger and coal) that pass 50 yards from our house every 15 - 20 minutes.
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: floo on June 29, 2015, 02:23:37 PM
"HUMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm"
Always thought that hum was the sound of the trains (passenger and coal) that pass 50 yards from our house every 15 - 20 minutes.

Poor you! :(
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: OH MY WORLD! on June 29, 2015, 02:55:55 PM
Yes you do Harrowby, you are not slow. You are trying to be anal retentive though. Sorry fella but I find this hum to be CRAZIES dude!
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: Hope on June 29, 2015, 07:13:42 PM
"HUMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm"
Always thought that hum was the sound of the trains (passenger and coal) that pass 50 yards from our house every 15 - 20 minutes.

Poor you! :(
Not really.  With the exception of a few passenger trains with poor brakes, they are all remarkably quiet.  In fact what worries me is the nights I'm away and I don't feel the place I'm staying shaking at 10.30pm and 3am when the loaded coal train goes past our house.
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: BashfulAnthony on June 29, 2015, 07:25:12 PM
"HUMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm"
Always thought that hum was the sound of the trains (passenger and coal) that pass 50 yards from our house every 15 - 20 minutes.

Poor you! :(
Not really.  With the exception of a few passenger trains with poor brakes, they are all remarkably quiet.  In fact what worries me is the nights I'm away and I don't feel the place I'm staying shaking at 10.30pm and 3am when the loaded coal train goes past our house.

I used to live next to a line, and I got used to it, even the vibrations.  Still better than lots of traffic.
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: Hope on June 29, 2015, 10:05:23 PM
I used to live next to a line, and I got used to it, even the vibrations.  Still better than lots of traffic.
When I was a child living in Oxford, we could hear the mainline trains running the other side of the Isis (the river that joins ther Cherwell in the middle of Oxford and creates the Thames).  That was over half a mile away!!
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: OH MY WORLD! on June 30, 2015, 12:15:46 AM
I pity people that have had wind farms built in their areas.
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: BashfulAnthony on June 30, 2015, 03:22:27 AM
Sure Harrowby, my pleasure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhQ9HquDNEM

I'm sorry, Johnny, I understand neither the connection with this thread nor the observations of an animator on the behaviour of cats has to do with your single word contribution in your earlier response.

JC, like his "God", moves in mysterious ways.  :)

Nothing mysterious about your ways, though.  We just need to guess which template is coming out today.

Yes dear, you're right of course, as always!  :-*

Why, thank you:  compliments are always welcome, whatever the source.
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: Hope on June 30, 2015, 09:28:04 AM
I pity people that have had wind farms built in their areas.
I know a couple of families who live near such places.  After the initial shock - because of the changed circumstances - most people get used to them, in the same way that people who live close to main roads, railway lines - even airports - get used to them.
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: OH MY WORLD! on June 30, 2015, 04:28:05 PM
Hope,
It is a fact that the number of health complaints from those living near wind farms is growing. Some may get use to it but more and more are not. Farmers are even seeing a change in their livestock.
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: BeRational on June 30, 2015, 04:31:02 PM
Hope,
It is a fact that the number of health complaints from those living near wind farms is growing. Some may get use to it but more and more are not. Farmers are even seeing a change in their livestock.

I must admit I quite like them. I find them very soothing.
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: floo on June 30, 2015, 04:52:16 PM
I like wind turbines and would have been happy to have seen them in the 'miracle' field at our previous property, which was in an elevated position. However, I suspect the neighbours might not have been too enthusiastic!
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: Shaker on June 30, 2015, 04:54:38 PM
Hope,
It is a fact that the number of health complaints from those living near wind farms is growing. Some may get use to it but more and more are not. Farmers are even seeing a change in their livestock.
What 'health complaints'?

What 'changes in livestock'?
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: OH MY WORLD! on June 30, 2015, 05:05:02 PM
You can start by reading up on wind turbine syndrome.
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 30, 2015, 05:08:56 PM
Hope,
It is a fact that the number of health complaints from those living near wind farms is growing. Some may get use to it but more and more are not. Farmers are even seeing a change in their livestock.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Wind_Turbine_Syndrome
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: OH MY WORLD! on June 30, 2015, 09:25:08 PM
How foolish to depend on wiki. It blatantly lies.

Check the facts duh!  Dr. Pierpont's book, Wind Turbine Syndrome, was indeed peer reviewd. And then have a cookie.
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: OH MY WORLD! on June 30, 2015, 11:53:00 PM
You want a real hum then go for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO53YqA0D9M
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: Harrowby Hall on July 01, 2015, 08:35:49 AM
Hope,
It is a fact that the number of health complaints from those living near wind farms is growing. Some may get use to it but more and more are not. Farmers are even seeing a change in their livestock.

I must admit I quite like them. I find them very soothing.

Me too,

I just wish the blades were attractive, like the rainbow effect on a cd

As I drive through France I see many places where there are wind turbines. I find them rather stately and magnificent. Where I see them in clusters, in areas like the Beauce, I think that they add interest and provide a focus in an otherwise boring vista.

I don't find them intrusive, like Victorian railways they often integrate themselves into the landscape.

And as for Wind Turbine Syndrome, here is a summary of a multidiscipline (psychology, engineering, built environment) peer-reviewed report from the University of Nottingham.


http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/news/pressreleases/2013/march/personality-clue-to-wind-turbine-syndrome.aspx
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: Nearly Sane on July 01, 2015, 11:01:38 AM
How foolish to depend on wiki. It blatantly lies.

Check the facts duh!  Dr. Pierpont's book, Wind Turbine Syndrome, was indeed peer reviewd. And then have a cookie.


The detail of why it is not lying is covered in the article, the claim to be peer reviewed is invalid and the study is useless for the reasons in the article.
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: King Oberon on July 01, 2015, 02:50:12 PM
Hum?? Aliens  :o
Title: Re: Does anyone hear the hum?
Post by: Jack Knave on July 01, 2015, 05:16:14 PM
Hope,
It is a fact that the number of health complaints from those living near wind farms is growing. Some may get use to it but more and more are not. Farmers are even seeing a change in their livestock.

I must admit I quite like them. I find them very soothing.

Me too,

I just wish the blades were attractive, like the rainbow effect on a cd

As I drive through France I see many places where there are wind turbines. I find them rather stately and magnificent. Where I see them in clusters, in areas like the Beauce, I think that they add interest and provide a focus in an otherwise boring vista.

I don't find them intrusive, like Victorian railways they often integrate themselves into the landscape.

And as for Wind Turbine Syndrome, here is a summary of a multidiscipline (psychology, engineering, built environment) peer-reviewed report from the University of Nottingham.


http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/news/pressreleases/2013/march/personality-clue-to-wind-turbine-syndrome.aspx
A similar thing might be said of Heathrow if you are only passing it by but it is another issue for those living nearby who have endure it each day.