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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Hope on September 01, 2015, 12:55:06 PM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-33983172
Was interested to hear about this on Radio 5 earlier. Apart from the obvious, how do non-alcoholic washes differ from these?
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Good grief! :o
We use these hand washes very frequently at home. I also carry one in the car and use it after I have done my shopping or filled the car with petrol. They do seem to be quite good at keeping the germs at bay.
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Good grief! :o
We use these hand washes very frequently at home. I also carry one in the car and use it after I have done my shopping or filled the car with petrol. They do seem to be quite good at keeping the germs at bay.
NO, not at bay, but pissed out of their tiny minds!
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No surprise there. They will do anything for a buzz. Like going into run down bars and pubs and stealing the disinfectant cakes from the urinals in the washrooms.
No Matty, it's not funny.
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Good grief! :o
We use these hand washes very frequently at home. I also carry one in the car and use it after I have done my shopping or filled the car with petrol. They do seem to be quite good at keeping the germs at bay.
NO, not at bay, but pissed out of their tiny minds!
Good one! ;D
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Good grief! :o
We use these hand washes very frequently at home. I also carry one in the car and use it after I have done my shopping or filled the car with petrol. They do seem to be quite good at keeping the germs at bay.
NO, not at bay, but pissed out of their tiny minds!
Good one! ;D
It would appear that our Canadian critic does not agree! BORING!
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No surprise there. They will do anything for a buzz. Like going into run down bars and pubs and stealing the disinfectant cakes from the urinals in the washrooms.
No Matty, it's not funny.
Do you really - QUOTE - Like going into run down bars and pubs and stealing the disinfectant cakes from the urinals in the washrooms. - UNQUOTE!
YEUCH! You really are gross!
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You really have a problem with not thinking before you post dear Matty. "They" has a different meaning than I. Duh! You are old and should know how to read and understand English words.
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You really have a problem with not thinking before you post dear Matty. "They" has a different meaning than I. Duh! You are old and should know how to read and understand English words.
I don't care about "they" or "I" - you posted the disgusting idea! You thought of it! You are the disgusting one!
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No, it is fact. They do it. Now if you ever see a urinal with the disinfectant cake in a cage, you will know why it was done. DUH!
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No, it is fact. They do it. Now if you ever see a urinal with the disinfectant cake in a cage, you will know why it was done. DUH!
What is a disinfectant cake?
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No, it is fact. They do it. Now if you ever see a urinal with the disinfectant cake in a cage, you will know why it was done. DUH!
What is a disinfectant cake?
A block of disinfectant that sits in urinals. It gives us boys something to aim at ;)
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No, it is fact. They do it. Now if you ever see a urinal with the disinfectant cake in a cage, you will know why it was done. DUH!
What is a disinfectant cake?
A block of disinfectant that sits in urinals. It gives us boys something to aim at ;)
Apparently, at Amsterdam’s Schiphol Airport, the authorities got fed up with the "dampness" on the floors of the gent's toilets and the huge cost of cleaning it up.
They found that by painting a fly onto or into the porcelain of the urinals they cut these costs spectacularly because, as you say, Shaker, it gave the boys something to aim at and ensured that they missed the bigger target - the floor.
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I heard that story too :)
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I heard that story too :)
Unlike most good stories this one is actually true!
I just wonder where they got the idea from? But maybe I really don't want to find out!
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Good grief! :o
We use these hand washes very frequently at home. I also carry one in the car and use it after I have done my shopping or filled the car with petrol. They do seem to be quite good at keeping the germs at bay.
That's what they all say, to begin with.
ippy
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-33983172
Was interested to hear about this on Radio 5 earlier. Apart from the obvious, how do non-alcoholic washes differ from these?
Do you mean "are there any non alcoholic hand washes that are as effective as alcoholic hand washes and that could be used instead?"
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Those who are 'toiletarily' intrigued may enjoy this.
https://worksthatwork.com/1/urinal-fly
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From Gordon's link a couple of snippets that I rather liked:
Even positioning a company logo at the bottom of the bowl would work, although . . . companies probably would not want to encourage people to urinate on their trademark. The University of Louisville in Kentucky has been particularly inventive in this respect—placing the emblem of the rival University of Kentucky at the bottom of the urinal in some of their changing room
A Victorian urinal target dating back at least as far as the 1880s features a bee. The Latin for bee is apis, a vulgar joke understandable to Victorian gentlemen, but almost certainly lost on 21st-century men.
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Do you mean "are there any non alcoholic hand washes that are as effective as alcoholic hand washes and that could be used instead?"
Thanks for bringing the thread back on-course, jeremy - and yes and no, that is what I was/wasn't asking. I was half wondering what it is in the non-alcoholic ones that make them work, and also whether any non-alcoholic versions could be used instead.
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Do you mean "are there any non alcoholic hand washes that are as effective as alcoholic hand washes and that could be used instead?"
Thanks for bringing the thread back on-course, jeremy - and yes and no, that is what I was/wasn't asking. I was half wondering what it is in the non-alcoholic ones that make them work, and also whether any non-alcoholic versions could be used instead.
At least, this time, the thread was derailed by a Christian and not a Pagan or an atheist!
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And I'm probably going to be accused of derailing it again. Today I visited a public toilet, and on the door was a notice which said, 'This toilet is twinned with a toilet in Sierra Leone." It then give the exact GPS Co-ordinates and a photo of said toilet. Finally it gave a link to a charity to give aid to help the poorest nations have clean water and hygienic toilets.
Looking on t'internet afterwards I found much more about it, under 'Toilet Twinning'. Sounds like an interesting and creative idea.
End of derail. ;D
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And how is a alcoholic stealing urinal cakes for the alcohol content a derail? Bet a few have gone missing from hospital men's rooms over the years. I know that they hang around out side hospitals quite often.
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Dear Enki,
To derail or not to derail, no that is not the question. ???
To meet the mind that came up with toilet twinning. :o
Gonnagle.
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There was a problem during the swine flu outbreak with children drinking hand rub and getting drunk in schools, often quite young ones.
The hand gel obviously does a vital job in hospitals but when it comes to preventing g stomach bugs it is no substitute for warm soapy water. I'm horrified at the number of mothers in public loos who get their kids to use hand gel instead of hand washing in the belief it is more hygienic or more effective. It isn't.
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There was a problem during the swine flu outbreak with children drinking hand rub and getting drunk in schools, often quite young ones.
The hand gel obviously does a vital job in hospitals but when it comes to preventing g stomach bugs it is no substitute for warm soapy water. I'm horrified at the number of mothers in public loos who get their kids to use hand gel instead of hand washing in the belief it is more hygienic or more effective. It isn't.
I find it very effective. I would much prefer to use a hand gel when using a public loo, rather than use the sink in one.
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There was a problem during the swine flu outbreak with children drinking hand rub and getting drunk in schools, often quite young ones.
The hand gel obviously does a vital job in hospitals but when it comes to preventing g stomach bugs it is no substitute for warm soapy water. I'm horrified at the number of mothers in public loos who get their kids to use hand gel instead of hand washing in the belief it is more hygienic or more effective. It isn't.
I find it very effective. I would much prefer to use a hand gel when using a public loo, rather than use the sink in one.
http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/367970/Wash-norovirus-away
During norovirus outbreaks I carry my own soap leaves and tissues to dry my hands. Most public toilets round here have contactless taps and flushes but if I do need to touch them I use my sleeve, and I never touch toilet door handles on the way out.
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Well each to their own. :)
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Well not really. It's each and everyone's norovirus bugs on your hands if you rely on sanitisers alone.
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Well not really. It's each and everyone's norovirus bugs on your hands if you rely on sanitisers alone.
Obviously washing hands in a clean environment is important, but when that isn't available the use of hand gels is important. Since we started using them regularly a few years ago we have had far fewer colds and stomach upsets!
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It's supposedly effective against colds and flu and is better than nothing against stomach bugs, but with the latter you do need hand washing too if possible. I have to use one that is formaldehyde free as otherwise I get bad dermatitis from it. The alcohol can be very drying anyway - good job I didn't enter the medical profession!
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Use what works for you, as I will use what works for us!
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Use what works for you, as I will use what works for us!
I just wondered if you've found yourself starting to get more possessive with all of the various alcohol based hand washes you're putting in the car another one at home another elsewhere etc? Mmmmm___
ippy
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Obviously washing hands in a clean environment is important, but when that isn't available the use of hand gels is important. Since we started using them regularly a few years ago we have had far fewer colds and stomach upsets!
The problem with hand gels is that they don't get rid of dirt; they are effective to some degree or other, on bacteria and viruses (can't remember on which most effectively), but have little or no value when it comes to mud - which, of course, may carry bacteria or viruses.
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Obviously washing hands in a clean environment is important, but when that isn't available the use of hand gels is important. Since we started using them regularly a few years ago we have had far fewer colds and stomach upsets!
The problem with hand gels is that they don't get rid of dirt; they are effective to some degree or other, on bacteria and viruses (can't remember on which most effectively), but have little or no value when it comes to mud - which, of course, may carry bacteria or viruses.
Perhaps they work and do get rid of the dirt if a ceremony is performed by a man in a frock using some magic words and then all happening at the same time the dirt really does disappear?
ippy
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Perhaps they work and do get rid of the dirt if a ceremony is performed by a man in a frock using some magic words and then all happening at the same time the dirt really does disappear?
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Sorry, ippy. I realise that you would like to see this happen, but then you don't do serious, do you? Nor do you seem able to differentiate between sacred and secular topics.
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Perhaps they work and do get rid of the dirt if a ceremony is performed by a man in a frock using some magic words and then all happening at the same time the dirt really does disappear?
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Sorry, ippy. I realise that you would like to see this happen, but then you don't do serious, do you? Nor do you seem able to differentiate between sacred and secular topics.
That's just it Hope, the difference between living in the real world or some other kind of fantasy world, like your fantasy where I'm sure you talk to yourself and at the same time convince yourself someone is listening, if not acting upon your words.
I would refer to your condition as having a vivid imagination quite well outlined in a book written by "Our Lord Richard".
ippy
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Peace be upon Him.
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That's just it Hope, ...
Precisely, ippy: you don't know the difference between the real world and a fantasy. :D
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That's just it Hope, ...
Precisely, ippy: you don't know the difference between the real world and a fantasy. :D
Yes I often speak to myself but I really don't kid myself there's someone/something listening, there's no evidential reason to think there is, "Hail Richard".
ippy
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That's just it Hope, ...
Precisely, ippy: you don't know the difference between the real world and a fantasy. :D
Talking to yourself, Hope? ;D
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Yes I often speak to myself but I really don't kid myself there's someone/something listening, there's no evidential reason to think there is, "Hail Richard".
ippy
I occasionally speak to myself, ippy; but most of the time I speak to other sentient beings and get responses in return.
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Yes I often speak to myself but I really don't kid myself there's someone/something listening, there's no evidential reason to think there is, "Hail Richard".
ippy
I occasionally speak to myself, ippy; but most of the time I speak to other sentient beings and get responses in return.
As usual, Hope, a smart-arse, avoid the point, come-back.
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As usual, Hope, a smart-arse, avoid the point, come-back.
Only responding to his question, Matt.
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Yes I often speak to myself but I really don't kid myself there's someone/something listening, there's no evidential reason to think there is, "Hail Richard".
ippy
I occasionally speak to myself, ippy; but most of the time I speak to other sentient beings and get responses in return.
In which case you need help! ;D
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In which case you need help! ;D
Floo, I believe that btalking to oneself is a perfectly normal human behaviour, as is talking to sentient beings and receiving responses. Why would I 'need help' as you suggest?
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In which case you need help! ;D
Floo, I believe that btalking to oneself is a perfectly normal human behaviour, as is talking to sentient beings and receiving responses. Why would I 'need help' as you suggest?
If you believe you are receiving responses from a deity then I do believe one has a problem!
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Yes I often speak to myself but I really don't kid myself there's someone/something listening, there's no evidential reason to think there is, "Hail Richard".
ippy
I occasionally speak to myself, ippy; but most of the time I speak to other sentient beings and get responses in return.
You imagine!
ippy
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floo, didn't you tell us quite some time back that you talk to yourself?
Matty, do you recall a witch pointing a finger about name calling yesterday? I wonder what happened to him ? Too funny you!
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floo, didn't you tell us quite some time back that you talk to yourself?
Matty, do you recall a witch pointing a finger about name calling yesterday? I wonder what happened to him ? Too funny you!
Don't most people talk to themselves? At least I know it is me to whom I talking, usually telling myself what a daft old bat I am. ;D I really shouted at myself yesterday, when I realised I had left the gerbil cage door open by mistake! ::) Fortunately for me the gerbil had the good sense to stay where it was, more sense than its crazy owner!
Goodness knows what any of this has to do with hand washes? ::)
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I agree floo, it doesn't. That didn't stop you from posting on it now did it. Have a cookie.
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I agree floo, it doesn't. That didn't stop you from posting on it now did it. Have a cookie.
Very true! ;D
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Matty, do you recall a witch pointing a finger about name calling yesterday? I wonder what happened to him ? Too funny you!
Coming from you that is rich! Too un-funny you!
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I agree floo, it doesn't. That didn't stop you from posting on it now did it. Have a cookie.
Who employs you? Huntley and Palmers?
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Minnie me,
NO! Duncan Hines, "So moist, so delicious and so much more".
"Today I will live in the moment unless it's unpleasant in which case I will eat a cookie" the Cookie Monster
"I don't get sent anything strange like underwear. I get sent cookies." Jennifer Aniston
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Ippy,
NO! Duncan Hines, "So moist, so delicious and so much more".
"Today I will live in the moment unless it's unpleasant in which case I will eat a cookie" the Cookie Monster
"I don't get sent anything strange like underwear. I get sent cookies." Jennifer Aniston
You really are a toss-pot, I'm CMG not ippy!
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I figured you for his Minnie me. Old and a bit nutty.
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I figured you for his Minnie me. Old and a bit nutty.
Mini-me idiot!
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No, it's slough not slew. Too funny you
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floo, didn't you tell us quite some time back that you talk to yourself?
Matty, do you recall a witch pointing a finger about name calling yesterday? I wonder what happened to him ? Too funny you!
Don't most people talk to themselves? At least I know it is me to whom I talking, usually telling myself what a daft old bat I am. ;D I really shouted at myself yesterday, when I realised I had left the gerbil cage door open by mistake! ::) Fortunate5ly for me the gerbil had the good sense to stay where it was, more sense than its crazy owner!
Goodness knows what any of this has to do with hand washes? ::)
Thats an easy one Floo, a couple òf glasses of handwash who knows what they're saying.
I spoke to myself only today, I looked into the mirror and had to say, "you swine", to myself.
ippy