Sriram
You haven't seen the programme. You are making assumptions about its content. In the absence of any real understanding of the nature of the programme you risk making a public fool of yourself.
Don't make judgements on things of which you have no knowledge.
Sriram
You haven't seen the programme. You are making assumptions about its content. In the absence of any real understanding of the nature of the programme you risk making a public fool of yourself.
Don't make judgements on things of which you have no knowledge.
What you have mentioned in the OP is enough.
Sriram-Ji
I know exactly what you're saying as you know I visit India regularly & it's my second home & friends there, Muslim. Hindu etc, are my second family now. 8)
Would you please explain why you feel as you do about NOW as well as what the prog was on about, please ????
BTW People ARE making docs on the more 'modern' versions of these events !!!
Best
Nick
HH
I suggest you find solutions for the organised rapes and child abuses that are happening today in the west (refer the 'polygamist' thread) ...(not to mention school shootings!).... and stop being 'horrified' by things that happened 60 years ago in India and elsewhere.
Funnily no one appears to make documentaries and TV programs on such matters!
Very selective sense of morality many of you seem to have!! ::)
Actually Sriram they do make documentaries and TV programs on such matters.
The holocaust and how people suffered across Europe in ww2.
Or how very poor workers and children were treated in the UK in factories, years ago where there were no safety guards to protect them and human life was not considered valuable.
Children were stuck down mines all day, dragging coal to the surface.
I am going to watch it, but it seems to me ( reading the op) it is about how beastly people can be to each other, and how lives are regarded sometimes by people who are perceived to belong to a different group.
There are many such documentaries, India isn't immune, any more than anywhere else.
It sounds like a tragic human story.
I don't think for a minute anyone thinks this is about East v westAnyone other than Sriram, you mean?
I don't think for a minute anyone thinks this is about East v westAnyone other than Sriram, you mean?
I don't think for a minute anyone thinks this is about East v westAnyone other than Sriram, you mean?
Sriram probably has no idea what " who do you think you are?" Is.
No one gave him the context, so don't be to hard on him.
I don't think for a minute anyone thinks this is about East v westAnyone other than Sriram, you mean?
Sriram probably has no idea what " who do you think you are?" Is.
No one gave him the context, so don't be to hard on him.
Accha So you feel they're being a bit 'selective' in their comments???
This post is about that prog though. It would make the post many pages long if we step to one side & start discussing what going on 'here', so to speak, na?
I DO agree much more can be done NOW & maybe we should dwell a bit less on the past & use our energies to sort out awful abuses NOW but, again, we must stress this isn't about East V West.
Nick
Thank you for pointing that out, Sriram.
Although clicking 'report to moderator' is generally more efficient.
Thank you for pointing that out, Sriram.
Although clicking 'report to moderator' is generally more efficient.
You have posted on this thread. You should have known without anyone pointing it out!
Moderator:
I did; we're discussing where best to move it to. A subject this serious isn't exactly 'entertainment'.
You should start a 'India' section and post it there. HH, Johnny, Jakswan, KO and others can also spend their time gleefully discussing caste, partition, Delhi rape, poverty, Sati and so on on that board. Condition should be that only negative aspects are discussed, of course! ::)
Confession time. I'm not sure why I posted under this subject. It was late at night and I was very tired. Perhaps it was because television is technology! Apologies
You should start a 'India' section and post it there. HH, Johnny, Jakswan, KO and others can also spend their time gleefully discussing caste, partition, Delhi rape, poverty, Sati and so on on that board. Condition should be that only negative aspects are discussed, of course! ::)
On the basis of a couple of posts about caste and a further one about a British Indian couple being convicted - in a criminal court - of treating a woman, who was deliberately employed by them because she was from a low caste, as a slave, Sriram has decided that somehow I am anti-India. I am not.
I am against the institutionalising of differences - be they differences of sex, sexual orientation, ethnic origin, national origin or cultural origin. Sriram maintains that caste is of no importance in modern India. I think that he is being disingenuous - it is how he would like the world to perceive modern India.
I am sure that at the "official" level caste is now outlawed in India and it is little importance among the metropolitan elite. But at other levels and in other places? A mere edict will not remove it.
I referred to an article in a serious journal, written by a respected academic of Indian origin, about the existence of caste-related behaviour among the Indian diaspora in Britain. Sriram rubbished it.
Few people on this forum, I am sure, have any antipathy towards India, but Sriram chooses to perceive things differently. I described my reactions to the tv programme I saw last night and was immediately insulted for doing so.
You are to be commended for defending the honour of your homeland, Sriram, but don't do it blindly. Nowhere is perfect, certainly not Britain and certainly not India.
What is this about the Russians raping the Germans? Why only Russians (always the bad guys...these Russians)? British always the nice gentlemanly guys...what?!
I bet many British, French and American soldiers also raped German women during the war, besides women of many other nationalities.
Sriram this is the best I can do
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3255063/To-hear-brutal-changed-Strictly-star-Anita-Rani-left-stunned-discovering-grandfather-s-wife-killed-India-raped-savage-violence-Partition.html
It gives you an idea of what the programme was about.
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Moderator:
I did; we're discussing where best to move it to. A subject this serious isn't exactly 'entertainment'.
You should start a 'India' section and post it there. HH, Johnny, Jakswan, KO and others can also spend their time gleefully discussing caste, partition, Delhi rape, poverty, Sati and so on on that board. Condition should be that only negative aspects are discussed, of course! ::)
I think it is a shame Sriram can't see the programme , because he might have had a more empathic response and could have given us perhaps an insight into the cultural background of the family involved.
I am against the institutionalising of differences - be they differences of sex, sexual orientation, ethnic origin, national origin or cultural origin. Sriram maintains that caste is of no importance in modern India. I think that he is being disingenuous - it is how he would like the world to perceive modern India.
I am sure that at the "official" level caste is now outlawed in India and it is little importance among the metropolitan elite. But at other levels and in other places? A mere edict will not remove it.
I referred to an article in a serious journal, written by a respected academic of Indian origin, about the existence of caste-related behaviour among the Indian diaspora in Britain. Sriram rubbished it.
The point is that, as probably the sole rep of India here...I cannot accept sweeping generalizations and stereotyping....especially when I know for a fact that it is not true. :)
And then there is the effect of subculture, and the arbitrary rules and mores used to enforce conformity within the group. In Britain, we are seeing cases of literally hundreds of children and adolescent girls - almost all of whom are in care - being used as sex objects and prosititutes by men. Virtually all the men involved appear to have come from Moslem communities - possibly seeing the girls as having no value as human beings because they are not Moslems. That is one example of the influences of a subculture. There is a second subculture at work here - the "social worker" subculture (riddled with political correctness) which forbids any intimation at all that the perpetrators of this evil may come from a particular ethnic and religious background.
Moderator:
I did; we're discussing where best to move it to. A subject this serious isn't exactly 'entertainment'.
You should start a 'India' section and post it there. HH, Johnny, Jakswan, KO and others can also spend their time gleefully discussing caste, partition, Delhi rape, poverty, Sati and so on on that board. Condition should be that only negative aspects are discussed, of course! ::)
We come across at least one case every couple of years.
We come across at least one case every couple of years.
In a country the size of India (qv your various statements about population, diversity, cultures, religion etc) this counts for being quite common?
We come across at least one case every couple of years.
In a country the size of India (qv your various statements about population, diversity, cultures, religion etc) this counts for being quite common?
What has the size of the country got to do with it? The number of foreigners running orphanages is not very high. Many of them end up being imprisoned for abuse and pedophilia and trafficking.
It's smoke and mirrors designed to deflect our attention from how women were and are treated in parts of India.
For a short period of time I worked with two Indian ladies ( at the same time) no idea if they came from the same part.
One was Hindu and the other was Muslim.
The thing they seemed to have in common was that had they been living in India they would have both been living with their mother in law, who apparently ruled the roost.
Both seemed to be glad to have escaped being under her thumb.
Not sure how common that is in India, to live and be told what to do by the mothering law.
It's just something they shared with me that seemed to be in their culture.
:o
What laws are these that discriminate against the indigenous population?
It's smoke and mirrors designed to deflect our attention from how women were and are treated in parts of India.
It's smoke and mirrors designed to deflect our attention from how women were and are treated in parts of India.
For a short period of time I worked with two Indian ladies ( at the same time) no idea if they came from the same part.
One was Hindu and the other was Muslim.
The thing they seemed to have in common was that had they been living in India they would have both been living with their mother in law, who apparently ruled the roost.
Both seemed to be glad to have escaped being under her thumb.
Not sure how common that is in India, to live and be told what to do by the mothering law.
It's just something they shared with me that seemed to be in their culture.
:o
Women are abused the world over, Sriram. Crying 'racism!' every time abuse in India gets a mention does you no credit.
Women are abused the world over, Sriram. Crying 'racism!' every time abuse in India gets a mention does you no credit.
I didn't cry 'racism'. There is no 'race' issue here'. You are bringing in 'race'....not me.
I knew for a fact that HH was trying to bring up issues regarding treatment of women in India by highlighting a 65 year old incident which was quite irrelevant in any context here. You claimed his innocence....and you couldn't help yourself finally! LOL!
Women are abused the world over, Sriram. Crying 'racism!' every time abuse in India gets a mention does you no credit.
I didn't cry 'racism'. There is no 'race' issue here'. You are bringing in 'race'....not me.
I knew for a fact that HH was trying to bring up issues regarding treatment of women in India by highlighting a 65 year old incident which was quite irrelevant in any context here. You claimed his innocence....and you couldn't help yourself finally! LOL!
Women are abused the world over, Sriram. Crying 'racism!' every time abuse in India gets a mention does you no credit.
I didn't cry 'racism'. There is no 'race' issue here'. You are bringing in 'race'....not me.
I knew for a fact that HH was trying to bring up issues regarding treatment of women in India by highlighting a 65 year old incident which was quite irrelevant in any context here. You claimed his innocence....and you couldn't help yourself finally! LOL!
It's strange you find stating facts about the abuse of women so amusing.
In the UK Sriram families are a lot smaller and often it is parents who want to keep their independance.
Neither of my parents who are divorced want to come and live with me, they both value their independance to much.
My Dad is in his 90's now and is fiercely independant. He is getting frailer but getting him to move out of where he is now is going to be an issue as I think he will fight to stay there even if it ultimately becomes his demise.
My husbands job means I am not close, but fortunately he has some lovely neighbours.
My mother loves being where she is in a ground Floor flat ( being disabled) with a garden she loves.
It would break her heart to leave it behind.
Neither of them want to go into a home, but they don't want live with me either.
What do you do?
We do value family in the UK, but just because people are old doesn't mean they don't value their independance.
It isn't quite like you seem to want to portray, Sriram.
In the UK Sriram families are a lot smaller and often it is parents who want to keep their independance.
Neither of my parents who are divorced want to come and live with me, they both value their independance to much.
My Dad is in his 90's now and is fiercely independant. He is getting frailer but getting him to move out of where he is now is going to be an issue as I think he will fight to stay there even if it ultimately becomes his demise.
My husbands job means I am not close, but fortunately he has some lovely neighbours.
My mother loves being where she is in a ground Floor flat ( being disabled) with a garden she loves.
It would break her heart to leave it behind.
Neither of them want to go into a home, but they don't want live with me either.
What do you do?
We do value family in the UK, but just because people are old doesn't mean they don't value their independance.
It isn't quite like you seem to want to portray, Sriram.
Rose... you brought up your Indian friends and their mothers-in-law. Not me. It all not quite what you want to portray either....! You need to see that too.
I knew for a fact that HH was trying to bring up issues regarding treatment of women in India by highlighting a 65 year old incident which was quite irrelevant in any context here. You claimed his innocence....and you couldn't help yourself finally! LOL!
I know that in Britain and in many western countries the 'family' has lost its value.Clearly you are as uninformed about Britain as we are about India.
As can be expected, many western people might see their own lifestyle as more progressive, liberal and superior....but we see it as self centered and indulgent. So....each to their own life style and way of life. No point is trying to make them meet.
I know that in Britain and in many western countries the 'family' has lost its value.Clearly you are as uninformed about Britain as we are about India.
I know that in Britain and in many western countries the 'family' has lost its value.Clearly you are as uninformed about Britain as we are about India.
One does wonder sometimes ...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-34442716
"A daughter "kissed her mother goodbye" before being told she was actually still alive and hospital staff had got the wrong body, it has been revealed."
I know that in Britain and in many western countries the 'family' has lost its value.Clearly you are as uninformed about Britain as we are about India.
Yes I was hoping he could share a few insights without taking a stab at Britain because of some imagined slight, but I was out of luck.
I just found it interesting that two women both shared shared some cultural aspect about India when they came from different religious traditions.
I wasn't trying to portray anything, actually.
Hi everyone,
I don't know from where the issue of 'racism' has suddenly been brought up. This is obviously a straw man. I never called anyone a racist.
My issue was with HH who is a past 'offender'... and who (among others) has several times brought up negative matters related to India into irrelevant threads. I have already mentioned that. I have no patience to dig them out now for your reference.
So....any thread started by him containing negative references about India and which is obviously out of context... is dubious and possibly a wind up. That is all it is about.
The fact that so many people are rushing so vehemently to support HH makes it all the more dubious IMO! :D
If I repeatedly mentioned in irrelevant threads...
... the number of single teenage mothers in UK
... or school shootings in the US
... or black killings by cops in the US
... or the number of married women (mothers) in UK and US taking up jobs in the porn industry to make ends meet
... or girls being kidnapped and kept as sex slaves for decades
... or young children being killed by their parents (in washing machines, beaten with rods, in microwaves, in hot car parks)
... or young girls raped by their step fathers or biological fathers helped along by the mothers
... or groups where designated persons are used to rape women in front of their husbands
... and many more such matters....
most of you will not like it and will raise objections, I am sure. I am also doing the same thing....nothing more.
Cheers.
Sriram
My issue was with HH who is a past 'offender'... and who (among others) has several times brought up negative matters related to India into irrelevant threads. I have already mentioned that. I have no patience to dig them out now for your reference.
So....any thread started by him containing negative references about India and which is obviously out of context... is dubious and possibly a wind up. That is all it is about.
I think he's saying we're Indianist.
Hi everyone,
I don't know from where the issue of 'racism' has suddenly been brought up. This is obviously a straw man. I never called anyone a racist.
My issue was with HH who is a past 'offender'... and who (among others) has several times brought up negative matters related to India into irrelevant threads. I have already mentioned that. I have no patience to dig them out now for your reference.
So....any thread started by him containing negative references about India and which is obviously out of context... is dubious and possibly a wind up. That is all it is about.
The fact that so many people are rushing so vehemently to support HH makes it all the more dubious IMO! :D
If I repeatedly mentioned in irrelevant threads...
... the number of single teenage mothers in UK
... or school shootings in the US
... or black killings by cops in the US
... or the number of married women (mothers) in UK and US taking up jobs in the porn industry to make ends meet
... or girls being kidnapped and kept as sex slaves for decades
... or young children being killed by their parents (in washing machines, beaten with rods, in microwaves, in hot car parks)
... or young girls raped by their step fathers or biological fathers helped along by the mothers
... or groups where designated persons are used to rape women in front of their husbands
... and many more such matters....
most of you will not like it and will raise objections, I am sure. I am also doing the same thing....nothing more.
Cheers.
Sriram
Hi everyone,
I don't know from where the issue of 'racism' has suddenly been brought up. This is obviously a straw man. I never called anyone a racist.
My issue was with HH who is a past 'offender'... and who (among others) has several times brought up negative matters related to India into irrelevant threads. I have already mentioned that. I have no patience to dig them out now for your reference.
So....any thread started by him containing negative references about India and which is obviously out of context... is dubious and possibly a wind up. That is all it is about.
The fact that so many people are rushing so vehemently to support HH makes it all the more dubious IMO! :D
If I repeatedly mentioned in irrelevant threads...
... the number of single teenage mothers in UK
... or school shootings in the US
... or black killings by cops in the US
... or the number of married women (mothers) in UK and US taking up jobs in the porn industry to make ends meet
... or girls being kidnapped and kept as sex slaves for decades
... or young children being killed by their parents (in washing machines, beaten with rods, in microwaves, in hot car parks)
... or young girls raped by their step fathers or biological fathers helped along by the mothers
... or groups where designated persons are used to rape women in front of their husbands
... and many more such matters....
most of you will not like it and will raise objections, I am sure. I am also doing the same thing....nothing more.
Cheers.
Sriram
The theme of your posts very often is 'issue in Western society' in itself no major issue however when you say 'issue in Western society much better in Indian society' then you make a comparative statement.
This in turns suggest you are advocating that the Western society should be more like Indian society, so when we express an opinion that it isn't, e.g. the caste is system is disgusting, its a fair comment, in light of the discussion that very often you started.
Who Do You Think You Are is a popular TV show and this was quite a moving episode. Lose the chip on your shoulder.
Sriram,
let me understand you. You don't like it when, after you put up a post critical of the west, I put up one about the same goings on in your India. And here you are doing exactly that. HH mentions a horror that happened in your country and you want us to focus on something bad going on in the west.
On the other hand...how are issues related to India of any relevance to these boards and what do any of you know about India in the first place . . .
Sriram
Hi Johnny,
I am glad you admit that every time I post something critical of the west ...you put up one about the same goings on in India. That was exactly my point. Thank you for that. At least you are honest. :)
And it is not just you, there are some others who do the same too. No one else has however admitted it honestly....as expected. ::)
The point is simple. This is a forum started by a British person and most people here are British and some are possibly Americans. I am the only Indian here. So...posting social problems related to the UK or US cannot be considered as unusual or unwarranted. When we are not discussing religion and spirituality here we should be discussing social issues related to these countries.
Posting issues connected to Britain or America...is not without context or without relevance because that's what this forum calls for and that's what the General Discussion section is for! Merely because I happen to be an Indian does not in any way mean that I should not post problems connected to Britain or America in this forum. They are perfectly relevant here regardless of who posts them.
On the other hand...how are issues related to India of any relevance to these boards and what do any of you know about India in the first place besides picking up random news items and taking delight in pointing out its problems??!! As you admitted...its just a way of showing me up.....nothing more.
If 100 people in India who have never lived in or been to Britain, start off discussions about social issues in Britain...and if a lone British person tries to explain or defend his country....they start a tirade against him. That would be ridiculous and spiteful! That is exactly what you people are doing. >:(
And the fact that you have again chosen this thread to point out some irrelevant and perhaps 50 year old second hand information about a albino boy...brings out what I am trying to say. You are just looking for reasons to post such matters without any context or relevance and take delight in it. And that is my objection.
Ok...I am done explaining myself here. :D
We have a mix of posters here, I'll defend what I say, no one speaks for me apart from me. Apart from a few rabid Scots and you nationality is largely irrelevant to these boards.
We have a mix of posters here, I'll defend what I say, no one speaks for me apart from me. Apart from a few rabid Scots and you nationality is largely irrelevant to these boards.Irony alert! Irony alert!
We have a mix of posters here, I'll defend what I say, no one speaks for me apart from me. Apart from a few rabid Scots and you nationality is largely irrelevant to these boards.Irony alert! Irony alert!
Please expand.
Hi HH,The idea that the abuse by predatory Pakistani gangs in Rotherham was only aimed at white girls has been revised after further investigation showed that Pakistani girls were also abused by members of their community but were afraid to approach social services or the police for help.
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And then there is the effect of subculture, and the arbitrary rules and mores used to enforce conformity within the group. In Britain, we are seeing cases of literally hundreds of children and adolescent girls - almost all of whom are in care - being used as sex objects and prosititutes by men. Virtually all the men involved appear to have come from Moslem communities - possibly seeing the girls as having no value as human beings because they are not Moslems. That is one example of the influences of a subculture. There is a second subculture at work here - the "social worker" subculture (riddled with political correctness) which forbids any intimation at all that the perpetrators of this evil may come from a particular ethnic and religious background.
Any group can be responsible for such activities. They just happen to be muslims in that particular case.
In India many white foreigners (Britishers in many cases) have been caught and jailed for abuse and pornography in the guise of running orphanages, schools and NGO's. This is quite common. We come across at least one case every couple of years.
Is this because of a subculture of sexual abuse and pedophilia in the west?!
Let's see - all these rabid Scots - a few must be at least 3. Jim, you might argue but he's very clearly and continually emphasised his civic nationalism. Of the forum, King Oberon is probably the next most vociferous but again is a civic nationalist. Who else?
As to it just being those of us Scots who are rabid and Srsiram - I'd suggest that there are people on here arguing that we shouldn't accept refugees because of the damage to 'our' culture who are more easily categorised as bringing up nationality in this way.
Therefore I suspect that it is your antipathy to the SNP that is causing your view and is therefore irony.
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IMO both the programme in the OP about India and the sexual abuse cases in Rotheram highlight the specific problems caused by the cultural idea that the 'value' of women is connected to some notion of sexual purity and that a family member connected to a 'devalued' woman is also somehow devalued or shamed. That is an interesting value to explore and IMO that value should be challenged and eradicated.
That is not intended to deflect attention from or minimise the specific problems highlighted by Sriram about the sub-culture that lead to groups of relatively rich Western sexual tourists or NGOs in India sexually abusing Indian children in a systematic way by exploiting the economic disparity between abuser and victim. Of course the sense of privilege, superiority and abuse of power from having money should also be challlenged and eradicated.
This is also similar to some of the crimes committed by the LRA in Africa and not really comparable to the exploitation of third world children by paedophiles, sex tourists or "charity" workers - which of-course must also be eliminated.The exploitation of 3rd world children and the crimes in Rotherham against white and ethnic minority children might well be better discussed on different threads from this one but they do seem to be forms of sexual slavery enforced through violence.
The exploitation of 3rd world children and the crimes in Rotherham against white and ethnic minority children might well be better discussed on different threads from this one . . .
The exploitation of 3rd world children and the crimes in Rotherham against white and ethnic minority children might well be better discussed on different threads from this one . . .
OK -I am white - well pink actually - but hey - a rose by any other name . . . but I disagree that this should be on another thread.
The abuse in Rotherham was carried out exlusively by men from the Indian sub-continent. It was stated several times during the trial that the men involved considered that the white girls did not deserve any respect at all they, like many males, and not just first-generation immigrants, from India/Pakistan subscribe to the belief that "white girls are easy!"
Unfortunately far too many are exactly that. However this kind of systematic abuse of girls was not a problem until the Indian/Pakistani attitude that sees all women as being less entitled to respect entered the equation via immigration and the attitude was passed oen from fathers to sons. Importantly however, not from all fathers to sons.
As far as I am concerned there is nowhere in the world where any female, regardless of age, should be considered to have a lesser right to the same level of respect as is given to males.
Sririam seems to consider that because there are matters, specified in a lengthy post above, in which the West is far from perfect, it jutifies his view that we in the West should ignore similar impoerfections in India and Pakistan.
Ye Gods and Goddesses, I am the first to admit that I, personally, am far from perfect, that the U K is far from perfect and problem free in the treatment of women and that the Western world could do with a vigourous shake in the same area, but this does not mean that we have to condone the behaviour somehere where the barbarity and unacceptability of such behaviour, just because it is "traditional" is accepted, in fact, is frequently ignored at every level of the society, especially by those who have the authority to act against it.
This is not a matter of racism - it is a matter of being civilised regardless of race.
The exploitation of 3rd world children and the crimes in Rotherham against white and ethnic minority children might well be better discussed on different threads from this one . . .
OK -I am white - well pink actually - but hey - a rose by any other name . . . but I disagree that this should be on another thread.
The abuse in Rotherham was carried out exlusively by men from the Indian sub-continent. It was stated several times during the trial that the men involved considered that the white girls did not deserve any respect at all they, like many males, and not just first-generation immigrants, from India/Pakistan subscribe to the belief that "white girls are easy!"
Unfortunately far too many are exactly that. However this kind of systematic abuse of girls was not a problem until the Indian/Pakistani attitude that sees all women as being less entitled to respect entered the equation via immigration and the attitude was passed oen from fathers to sons. Importantly however, not from all fathers to sons.
As far as I am concerned there is nowhere in the world where any female, regardless of age, should be considered to have a lesser right to the same level of respect as is given to males.
Sririam seems to consider that because there are matters, specified in a lengthy post above, in which the West is far from perfect, it jutifies his view that we in the West should ignore similar impoerfections in India and Pakistan.
Ye Gods and Goddesses, I am the first to admit that I, personally, am far from perfect, that the U K is far from perfect and problem free in the treatment of women and that the Western world could do with a vigourous shake in the same area, but this does not mean that we have to condone the behaviour somehere where the barbarity and unacceptability of such behaviour, just because it is "traditional" is accepted, in fact, is frequently ignored at every level of the society, especially by those who have the authority to act against it.
This is not a matter of racism - it is a matter of being civilised regardless of race.
I trust you don't have the hypocrisy to include yourself in the "civilised" group!
. . . you are allowing your negative programming about India to influence you rather more than is wise. Just get over it.
Rose,
There is no such fear of albinos or any superstition or anything of that sort in India. There are plenty of albinos around and as normal as anyone else.
Johnny is just developing a compulsive disorder I think. :)
He keeps coming up with something or the other at random! Seems to keep a ready stock of negative anecdotes about India and starts firing at the first hint of any discussion on it. ;)
PS: But I don't feel any malice or spite from him somehow...which is why I bother to reply and clarify to his posts. So far so good!
Excuse me Sirarm. I didn't claim this was wide spread in India at all. It was a case that i know personally and that family was told to get the boy out of the house by a Hindu religious leader. A Hindu priest with superstitions is not unusual.
http://lexquest.in/study-on-albinism-in-india-and-its-social-impact/
Excuse me Sirarm. I didn't claim this was wide spread in India at all. It was a case that i know personally and that family was told to get the boy out of the house by a Hindu religious leader. A Hindu priest with superstitions is not unusual.
http://lexquest.in/study-on-albinism-in-india-and-its-social-impact/
Johnny,
It is not just NOT widespread...but discrimination against albinos is something I have not even heard of in India! You really must stop pulling out such individual incidents and highlighting them as though they are a way of life.
I have heard of redheads being attacked in Britain (some very recent incidents too!). You don't want the world to think that this is a way of life in Britain..do you?!
JC knows nothing of life in Britain - he is on the other side of the Atlantic!
JC knows nothing of life in Britain - he is on the other side of the Atlantic!
JC's view of lif...
JC knows nothing of life in Britain - he is on the other side of the Atlantic!
JC's view of lif...
Everybody is wrong, or biased, except you of course. Does it not enter your "thinking," that you are extremely atronising?
Sriram,
You will agree that Mumbai is the street children capital of the world?
Dearst this word is spelt dearEst matty,
At least I've been to your UK and I happen to love the UK. You have never been to N America and spout you vile the word you want is "bile" against the USA out of your complete and total pig-ignorance.
My special friend Matty,
America is it's people. Really, you expect me to believe you have been to those cities with all your pig-ignorant remarks about America? Thanks for all the spelling corrections. I think you should be more concerned about your bacterial puffs than my spelling, but whatever puts the bubbles in your cauldron.
I think the word you want is AND. "...mand I can honestly say..." Too funny you!
Dearst this word is spelt dearEst matty,
At least I've been to your UK and I happen to love the UK. You have never been to N America and spout you vile the word you want is "bile" against the USA out of your complete and total pig-ignorance.
I have been to San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York and Dallas mand I can honestly say that I like America but cannot stand Americans.
Dearst this word is spelt dearEst matty,
At least I've been to your UK and I happen to love the UK. You have never been to N America and spout you vile the word you want is "bile" against the USA out of your complete and total pig-ignorance.
I have been to San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York and Dallas mand I can honestly say that I like America but cannot stand Americans.
I can't stand some Americans and some American ideals that some Americans have. But I grew up around Americans because of my mum's work, and the majority I knew/know are kindly, thoughtful and without a doubt among the most generous people I've ever encountered.
And one of my kids has an American best friend, and she's a lovely person to be around.
I remember going out to dinner with a bunch of Americans and spending the entire evening trying to explain to one of them that England is a country and not the equivalent to a U.S. state. ;D
I think the States was a different place before and during Vietnam - they've learned a lot, including how much they are hated by many. But then Americans are taught in school to love and respect their country, which doesn't happen much here.
Dearest Matty,
Some guest you were. They send you and invitation and you go there and tell them that they are not number one? Ya, right. Actually they were correct but now China has emerged. Do you like the Chinese? How about the Cubans? You like the countries but not the people? There is a word for people like you.