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General Category => Politics & Current Affairs => Topic started by: Nearly Sane on November 17, 2015, 04:05:02 PM

Title: Deliberate fire attack on centre used as a mosque
Post by: Nearly Sane on November 17, 2015, 04:05:02 PM
Sad news this, especially combined with the various twitter attacks on the MSP Humza Yusuf when he expressed his support for the French consular.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-34843552
Title: Re: Deliberate fire attack on centre used as a mosque
Post by: King Oberon on November 17, 2015, 04:21:40 PM
Fear and ignorance breeds hate as they say NS  :'(
Title: Re: Deliberate fire attack on centre used as a mosque
Post by: Gordon on November 17, 2015, 07:55:41 PM
I've no idea what motivates people to do this - but since the location involved is, at most, 10 minutes drive from where I'm typing this it worries, and slightly scares me, that people in my community (or close to it) can react like this.

I only hope that they are idiots, since we all have them in one form or another, and we need to take care to not be unduly influenced by local idiocy whether it be in the outskirts of the wonderful city of Glasgow or elsewhere.
Title: Re: Deliberate fire attack on centre used as a mosque
Post by: Sassy on November 27, 2015, 03:38:31 AM
How do you rate setting fire to a building compared to flying planes full of people in to places of work?

We are idiots if we think people are not going to hit out if our Government are not seen to be reacting to the dangers which are a real threat.

Is Paris so easily forgettable? Is the 9/11 so easily forgettable? What about the London 7/7 Bombings??

We have a people who are not from here and other Countries attacking innocent people. Are we really surprised at this?

Could it be someone from their own people trying to take the heat from the things that have happened.

Ignorance breeds complacency and complacency allowed all the above to happen. Action needs to be taken to protect the peaceful from such people.
Title: Re: Deliberate fire attack on centre used as a mosque
Post by: floo on November 27, 2015, 08:41:33 AM
Sad news this, especially combined with the various twitter attacks on the MSP Humza Yusuf when he expressed his support for the French consular.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-34843552

SICK! People who do that sort of thing are no better than the evil ISIS! >:(
Title: Re: Deliberate fire attack on centre used as a mosque
Post by: ad_orientem on November 27, 2015, 08:44:55 AM
SICK! People who do that sort of thing are no better than the evil ISIS! >:(

They might be idiots but they're not just as bad.
Title: Re: Deliberate fire attack on centre used as a mosque
Post by: Outrider on November 27, 2015, 11:38:08 AM
How do you rate setting fire to a building compared to flying planes full of people in to places of work?

That rather depends on whether they thought there were people in the building at the time, I suppose. Neither are an acceptable form of protest, though.

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We are idiots if we think people are not going to hit out if our Government are not seen to be reacting to the dangers which are a real threat.

All we need to do now is establish what the 'real threat' is - the Government aren't doing very much to discourage the popular media painting it fairly broadly as 'brown people' via their commentary implicating everyone currently trying to get out of Syria as 'potentially a suicide bomber' without the obvious admission that anyone is 'potentially a suicide bomber'.

Why is it that Islam is currently depicted as the majority of terrorists when in the last three years less than five percent of terrorist attacks have been religiously motivated? Yes there are very real threats out there, but that posed by Islamic terror is a small concern next to the social vandalism being done by the current government's own ideology.

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Is Paris so easily forgettable? Is the 9/11 so easily forgettable? What about the London 7/7 Bombings??

Of 152 terrorist attacks in the EU during 2013, 84 were ethno-nationalist separatists - how many of them do you remember? Why are they so easily forgettable?

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We have a people who are not from here and other Countries attacking innocent people. Are we really surprised at this?

No, but I am surprise that they get so much press compared to the people who are from here attacking people who are from here. Not withstanding, of course, that the Paris killers weren't from other countries, in the main, they were from France.

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Ignorance breeds complacency and complacency allowed all the above to happen. Action needs to be taken to protect the peaceful from such people.

Ignorance also breeds blind hatred. Action does need to be taken to protect the peaceful - most of the Syrian refugees, most of the European Muslims, most people in general are 'the peaceful'. There is no broad brush with which to paint the violent, if there were that many they wouldn't need to perpetrate events of terrorism, they'd stage a full-blown military invasion.

O.
Title: Re: Deliberate fire attack on centre used as a mosque
Post by: floo on November 27, 2015, 11:42:03 AM
They might be idiots but they're not just as bad.

Setting fire to a property and deliberately endangering life makes them more than idiots, imo! I hope they are caught and given a stiff prison sentence!