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Title: The Story of Israel
Post by: Khatru on February 24, 2016, 03:26:55 PM
http://youtu.be/D05T5HXPxpg
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: Enki on February 24, 2016, 03:51:50 PM
Powerful and emotional stuff, Khatru.

Thank you.  :(
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: john on February 24, 2016, 04:13:17 PM
Magnificent Irony............I love it.......Is the final image God or just death?
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: OH MY WORLD! on February 24, 2016, 04:25:36 PM
Absolute crap, but it is just a cartoon.
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: OH MY WORLD! on February 24, 2016, 04:33:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlARLtX-Phk
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: john on February 24, 2016, 04:40:36 PM
Oh my world

No it is your link that is crap

it makes no attempt to explain historical reality, unlike Khatru's link. 
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: OH MY WORLD! on February 24, 2016, 05:17:45 PM
Mr. John,
I get it, a cartoon of characters singing the same song while killing each other, is your idea of truth. No they were not singing from the same song sheet, if you actually knew the history of the Hebrews. My link is a Jew explaining the historical significance of a certain hill to the Jewish people, based on their scriptures. That is a lie according to you, you who goes for the truth by cartoon.
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: john on February 25, 2016, 09:43:25 AM
Mr. John,
I get it, a cartoon of characters singing the same song while killing each other, is your idea of truth. No they were not singing from the same song sheet, if you actually knew the history of the Hebrews. My link is a Jew explaining the historical significance of a certain hill to the Jewish people, based on their scriptures. That is a lie according to you, you who goes for the truth by cartoon.

You are right I grant.....It is not a lie.

But it is only a fraction of what a small group of people in a small period of time think about a particular place.

Art is often a better guide to truth that reality.

At least three religious groups claim absolute authority to do as they wish in that area of land because God said they could. And whist such views persist there will never be peace, as the cartoon predicts. That is one of the dangers of belief in god.
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: L.A. on February 25, 2016, 09:55:51 AM
I like the Romans best - they don't bugger-about!
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: john on February 25, 2016, 10:16:23 AM
Yea but aint the pipe smoking Brits cool.
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: Khatru on February 25, 2016, 10:40:26 AM
Magnificent Irony............I love it.......Is the final image God or just death?

Hi John

I'm thinking it's death.
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: Khatru on February 25, 2016, 10:44:30 AM
Absolute crap, but it is just a cartoon.

Instead of your superstitious mumbo jumbo?

Are you Jewish?

Do you pray to your god every day to thank him for not making you a woman?
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: Free Willy on February 25, 2016, 07:50:17 PM
Instead of your superstitious mumbo jumbo?

Are you Jewish?

Do you pray to your god every day to thank him for not making you a woman?
Since only 6% of refuse collectors are female perhaps many English women pray to give thanks they are not dustmen.
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: Shaker on February 25, 2016, 07:59:19 PM
I'd have thought close on 100% of English women give thanks that they're not dustmen.

They don't need to do anything as pointless as pray about it, just not be men, refuse collectors or not.
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: Free Willy on February 25, 2016, 08:48:07 PM
I'd have thought close on 100% of English women give thanks that they're not dustmen.

They don't need to do anything as pointless as pray about it, just not be men, refuse collectors or not.
Aren't you required on the pantheist thread?
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: Shaker on February 25, 2016, 08:55:56 PM
Not at the moment, no.
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: Rhiannon on February 25, 2016, 09:01:13 PM
Since only 6% of refuse collectors are female perhaps many English women pray to give thanks they are not dustmen.

Another thread you have to make about you, Vlad?
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: Khatru on February 25, 2016, 09:38:08 PM
Since only 6% of refuse collectors are female perhaps many English women pray to give thanks they are not dustmen.

Quote
Blessed are you O God, King of the Universe, Who has not made me a gentile, a slave and a woman

It's a genuine prayer for Jews.

But not being one of your god's favoured people, you probably wouldn't have known that.
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: Free Willy on February 25, 2016, 09:47:43 PM
It's a genuine prayer for Jews.

But not being one of your god's favoured people, you probably wouldn't have known that.
Wouldn't you be better off discussing this with Jewish posters? Oh I forgot .......the antitheists 'bored' them away
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: Shaker on February 25, 2016, 10:41:14 PM
Were there any to begin with, then?
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: Sebastian Toe on February 25, 2016, 11:32:47 PM
Aren't you required on the pantheist thread?

Aren't you required at the Telford Turd-polishers triennial turnout, to teach the tenderfoots to tighten their technique?
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: Khatru on February 26, 2016, 02:15:12 PM
Wouldn't you be better off discussing this with Jewish posters? Oh I forgot .......the antitheists 'bored' them away

Like most believers, they probably didn't like their ju-ju challenged by sceptics. 

Either that or they hated the close shaves they kept getting from Occam's Razor.  You should try it sometime.....it slices, it dices, it removes superfluous deities.
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: Shaker on February 26, 2016, 03:03:15 PM
Like most believers, they probably didn't like their ju-ju challenged by sceptics. 
I'd like to know if there ever were any to start off with. Vlad claims that Jewish posters here were chased off by "anti-theists," but that's news to me - I didn't know we'd ever had any Jewish posters here. You can't chase away somebody who isn't even there.

I did ask but I guess Vlad didn't see the question.
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: Rhiannon on February 26, 2016, 08:09:53 PM
No Jewish posters that I've ever known for what it's worth.
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: Sassy on February 28, 2016, 03:22:59 AM

King James Bible
The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.



God has a better way.
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: floo on February 28, 2016, 08:32:27 AM

King James Bible
The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.



God has a better way.

Hilarious! ;D
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: Humph Warden Bennett on February 28, 2016, 10:13:17 AM
http://youtu.be/D05T5HXPxpg

A fine performance by Andy Williams. Not a particularly complicated melody, but with a two octave range it's difficult to make it all sound pretty.
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: Khatru on February 28, 2016, 11:40:21 AM

King James Bible
The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.



God has a better way.

Colonic squirt of scripture
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: Brownie on February 28, 2016, 12:15:29 PM
That's a bit strong Khatru.  I think it is a very pleasant and comforting quotation, for believers.
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: floo on February 28, 2016, 12:28:41 PM
That's a bit strong Khatru.  I think it is a very pleasant and comforting quotation, for believers.

But if they have actually read the Bible it doesn't exactly depict the deity as anything but an evil b*stard!
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: OH MY WORLD! on February 28, 2016, 02:19:41 PM
Khatru,
Do you know Wallo?
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: Sassy on February 28, 2016, 04:36:14 PM
But if they have actually read the Bible it doesn't exactly depict the deity as anything but an evil b*stard!

Rubbish... it is because you have no respect for authority or understanding of the bible and God that only idiots call God evil or see him that way. Your Father the devil must be very proud of you. Had you had any understanding of the bible you would see you do as Satan wished you to. Following in Eve's footsteps and Adams like all mankind blame God for your own failings.

Now the truth shows you to be an evil one.
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: Sassy on February 28, 2016, 04:37:20 PM
Khatru,
Do you know Wallo?

You mean Wallo' in own self ignorance....LOL  ;D
I would say indulges in that...
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: floo on February 28, 2016, 04:41:39 PM
Rubbish... it is because you have no respect for authority or understanding of the bible and God that only idiots call God evil or see him that way. Your Father the devil must be very proud of you. Had you had any understanding of the bible you would see you do as Satan wished you to. Following in Eve's footsteps and Adams like all mankind blame God for your own failings.

Now the truth shows you to be an evil one.

Dead right, I have absolutely NO respect for the evil deity, if it exists and is as depicted in that book! Certainly Satan could be no worse.
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: Sebastian Toe on February 28, 2016, 06:59:06 PM
Your Father the devil
...did her mum know this? :-\
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: Khatru on February 28, 2016, 09:53:07 PM
That's a bit strong Khatru.  I think it is a very pleasant and comforting quotation, for believers.

It may be a bit strong but it's certainly not as strong as scriptures that refer to unbelievers as fools fit only for eternal torture.
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: Khatru on February 28, 2016, 09:53:50 PM
Khatru,
Do you know Wallo?

Never heard of him?
Title: Re: The Story of Israel
Post by: Khatru on February 28, 2016, 10:07:07 PM
Rubbish... it is because you have no respect for authority or understanding of the bible and God that only idiots call God evil or see him that way. Your Father the devil must be very proud of you. Had you had any understanding of the bible you would see you do as Satan wished you to. Following in Eve's footsteps and Adams like all mankind blame God for your own failings.

Now the truth shows you to be an evil one.

Ah, OK...so you believe that we non-believers are under Satan's control?   

Here's a heads-up for you - that just happens to be your religion - it's certainly not mine.

Why is it that believers like you, people who accept faith, dogma and religion think it's an argument to use those words like "Satan is your father" against somebody else?

What if I called you a "stupid forum poster" simply because I considered that you didn't consider yourself a stupid forum poster?  Isn't that your approach here?

I'll tell you what - let's be sensible about this. What do you say I call you the religite who clings to faith and dogma. Ok?  Then you can insult me right back with the opposite; you know,  something that you actually disrespect.

You see what I'm getting at?

Call me a damned rational sceptic. Call me a filthy logician or reasonista.   Hey!  You can even call me a godless evidencist.

Come on, Sass - hit me where I really live!