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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Sriram on March 08, 2016, 09:33:41 AM
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Hi everyone,
Here is a Science Daily article about trusting your sudden insight rather than the methodical analysis.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/03/160307144013.htm
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When a solution to a problem seems to have come to you out of thin air, it turns out you've more than likely been struck with the right idea, according to a new study.
A series of experiments conducted by a team of researchers determined that a person's sudden insights are often more accurate at solving problems than thinking them through analytically.
"However, insight is unconscious and automatic -- it can't be rushed. When the process runs to completion in its own time and all the dots are connected unconsciously, the solution pops into awareness as an Aha! moment. This means that when a really creative, breakthrough idea is needed, it's often best to wait for the insight rather than settling for an idea that resulted from analytical thinking."
Analytical thinking is best used for problems in which known strategies have been laid out for solutions, such as arithmetic, Kounios said. But for new problems without a set path for finding a solution, insight is often best. The new study shows that more weight should be placed on these sudden thoughts.
"This means that in all kinds of personal and professional situations, when a person has a genuine, sudden insight, then the idea has to be taken seriously," Kounios said. "It may not always be correct, but it can have a higher probability of being right than an idea that is methodically worked out."
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Cheers.
Sriram
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I had one of these the other day. I got a flash of insight that there is no God and the solution to all my problems are to be found in a sea of Merlot and islands of Green and Blacks.
So far it's working well I must say.
Ps you might want to bear in mind that your audience consists largely of British adults familiar with Steve Coogan characters when choosing your thread titles.
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Hi, Sriram
Yes, I'd agree with Mr Kounios, insights should be taken seriously. This is because they are often the intuition speaking.
There was a programme on TV on this a couple (?) of years ago and the presenter came to the same conclusion. It's so easy to doubt ourselves and our intuition, at times, and this can even cause us to make mistakes.
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Someone once asked Carl Sagan what he thought about going with his gut feelings about things.
"I prefer to think with my brain," he replied.
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How can we tell the insights/intuitions are correct?do we judge it by intuition?
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I have two friends, one is intuitively going to vote Out in the EU referendum, one intuitively In. So they are both right?
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If I'm honest if if trusted just to my 'gut instinct' when my kids were small I'd never have left the bloody house.
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How can we tell the insights/intuitions are correct?do we judge it by intuition?
Good question. I just know (for me) looking back, there are times when I wished I'd listened to my intuition.
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Most decisions we make are 'right' without a commonly accepted method to judge what is right. Sometimes we make correct guesses with no real basis, sometimes they are educated. Sometimes we are making connections that could be the subconscious or Kevin the Mystic Pixie throwing the answer into our brain by magic darts, as in the structure of benzene, for example. But we judge the 'correctness' rationally, measurably.
That we may not consciously be able to explain our ratiocination does not mean that it isn't ratiocination.
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Good question. I just know (for me) looking back, there are times when I wished I'd listened to my intuition.
And any times when you would have wished that you hadn't trusted to it?
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Maybe, some, yes. But is that only because I didn't like the outcome at the time? Sorry, I can't remember, at the moment.
Brings to mind the film 'Sliding Doors'. Did anyone see that? The old thing, if we make one decision we go one way.... make another, and everything changes.
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Maybe, some, yes. But is that only because I didn't like the outcome at the time? Sorry, I can't remember, at the moment.
Brings to mind the film 'Sliding Doors'. Did anyone see that? The old thing, if we make one decision we go one way.... make another, and everything changes.
And indeed, how do we classify what is instinct or a very strong feeling which is backed up rationally, or post rationally. We know we estimate probability badly.
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Dear Sane,
Evolution, this gut instinct stuff is much more than just fight or flight, we have spent hundreds of thousands of years fine tuning these gut instincts, billions of little neurons in the brain firing away, we have only touched on what that lump between our ears is capable of.
Anyway, it is to early and I must be up and off out into the real world, someone has to, WHY ME!!
Gonnagle.
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Dear Sane,
Evolution, this gut instinct stuff is much more than just fight or flight, we have spent hundreds of thousands of years fine tuning these gut instincts, billions of little neurons in the brain firing away, we have only touched on what that lump between our ears is capable of.
Anyway, it is to early and I must be up and off out into the real world, someone has to, WHY ME!!
Gonnagle.
And that gut instinct is frequently wrong. I'm not here disagreeing with the idea in the O, just suggesting that things are more complex than this.
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Analytical thinking is best used for problems in which known strategies have been laid out for solutions, such as arithmetic, Kounios said. But for new problems without a set path for finding a solution, insight is often best. The new study shows that more weight should be placed on these sudden thoughts.
If there is no trusted methodology for deriving a solution, then we use instinct, so much is uncontroversial I would have thought. Conscious mind aids in certain types of decision making situations but certainly not all. If you are running to return a serve you don't stop and start solving differential equations consciously to calculate motor responses. When we fall in love, it is not on the basis of higher cognitive deliberations, it comes straight from the heart, so to speak. Conscious mind is highly specialised but its focus has to be narrow, humans can only hold perhaps four variables in conscious working memory at once, five or more and we are stuffed; so for complex multivariable decisions like buying a house or falling in love, we tend to trust gut feelings, its too much for conscious mind to deal with.
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Sometimes it's not about having lots of things going on in your brain, but about noticing something and being able to find a way to resolve it, rather than just accepting what is.
In my link on the bottom of the page there is a chart of examples, and lots fall into the noticing something category, that they then went on to resolve.
The aha moment can be incredibly simple, like making cups for babies that don't spill.
http://www.inc.com/larry-kim/15-incredible-aha-moments-from-famous-founders.html
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I have had several 'Aha' moments lately. We have been moving several items of furniture etc around the house, and the places I thought they would look good, appear to have worked. :)
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I was thinking about some of the Aha moments I had, when I was young, which turned into disastrous decisions. You name it, I cocked it up - in relationships, property buying, employment.
It didn't make me reject intuition, but I have a healthy skepticism towards it now, and tend to think hard about Aha moments, and also sleep on them, speaking of which, those blonde girls at university, damn it, what's wrong with a few mistakes like that?
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Sriram,
Here is a Science Daily article about trusting your sudden insight rather than the methodical analysis.
Wrong. Intuition is just intuition – we cannot know whether it’s solved a problem until we test it, which is methodological analysis.
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I agree with you bluehillside. What intuition does is make us stop and think and that is good because sometimes our instincts are right.
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One of the issues here is being impulsive. As I said above, when I was young, I would get an intuition, and act on it. Oops, this often led to disasters. OK, as I got older, I learned not to be impulsive, but to think about these intuitions, and apply a little skepticism. A great improvement. Yeah, I really liked that blond bar-maid in the pub last night, but maybe it's not yet the time to get married.
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One of the issues here is being impulsive. As I said above, when I was young, I would get an intuition, and act on it. Oops, this often led to disasters. OK, as I got older, I learned not to be impulsive, but to think about these intuitions, and apply a little skepticism. A great improvement. Yeah, I really liked that blond bar-maid in the pub last night, but maybe it's not yet the time to get married.
But she is gloriously embonpoint, and her poitrine is joyous
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But she is gloriously embonpoint, and her poitrine is joyous
Damn, you are right. What else matters? (So thought my 19 year old self).
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Some years ago, a friend of mine literally bumped into some people late at night. He was in his way home to his partner after a Christmas night out. One of them walked back and punched him, as a gut instinct thing to do to impress his girlfriend. The bloke was 6', my friend 5'2'. My friend died from that punch. Yeah instinct is fucking great.
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Yes, in spades. A friend of mine is a Kleinian therapist, and one of her big things is the importance of thinking, in containing feeling and intuition, and that many people don't know how to think about their own feelings. Basically, without thinking and skepticism, we are lost, as NS's post shows.
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And that's the problem to an extent with all of this. Actual aha moments seem to me not that easy to define, and are evaluated by a non aha process. That we use that as a process to evaluate such things seems an issue with what is being claimed.
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I think that psychotic people have Aha moments, and express them vigorously. Big deal. They don't have the ability to stand back and evaluate them, but then plenty of non-psychotic people are the same.
I would think that many violent acts represent Aha moments, but generally we are not in favour of them. Instead of hitting your wife, count to ten, and rethink it.
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This brings to mind the history of therapy, as after the war, there was a reaction against psychoanalysis and psychiatry, seen as too intellectual. So there was a turn to 'feel, don't think', encounter groups, blissed up week-ends, the importance of intuition, and the like. Have a look at R. D. Laing for a sophisticated example of this.
Some of this was good, but it went too far, and people began to realize that you have to think as well as feel or intuit, otherwise there is chaos. So there has been a kind of fusion of the two sides, so-called integrative therapy.
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I was thinking about some of the Aha moments I had, when I was young, which turned into disastrous decisions. You name it, I cocked it up - in relationships, property buying, employment.
It didn't make me reject intuition, but I have a healthy skepticism towards it now, and tend to think hard about Aha moments, and also sleep on them, speaking of which, those blonde girls at university, damn it, what's wrong with a few mistakes like that?
Yes, we tend to forget those( or pretend to ) , the "Aha" moments that leave us feeling ridiculous.
The one where a shortcut, turns out to be a slurry pit :-[
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One of the most common aha moments I see involves an approach which is 'We must do something, this is something, we must do this'
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As someone who has anxiety, to varying degrees, I agree with that, NS - it's a classic example of where feelings lead you in completely the wrong direction.
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I'm also interested in whether we can really feel confident that non aha moments (and I keep getting a bizarre cross breed between Morten Harket and Alan Partridge on mind when writing here) are actually just as much aha moments but are post rationalisations.
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Morten Harket...lovely place, got a nice tea room.
I think (hahahaha) that it's all bollocks. Sometimes we produce beauty, other times it's a car crash. The important thing, it seems, is to find the way of bollockery that produces more of the former.
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Morten Harket...lovely place, got a nice tea room.
I think (hahahaha) that it's all bollocks. Sometimes we produce beauty, other times it's a car crash. The important thing, it seems, is to find the way of bollockery that produces more of the former.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q_rbjg2k6cI
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q_rbjg2k6cI
Pretty much.
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Hi everyone,
First of all....I don't think some people here understand what the 'Aha' moment is. Its not just any old impulse that you feel. We can have sudden natural impulses, instinctive urges, methodical thinking and 'Aha' moments. They are all different.
Our mind is composed of so many levels with all of them impacting us together that it is often difficult to separate them all out. This is where Yoga and meditation help. They help in controlling all the noise and clutter after which it becomes easier to separate the different parts.
Secondly, its clear that even though many people here normally swear by science and scientific methods....they will finally pick and choose what suits them and their comfort levels....and to hell with scientific findings! ::)
I have written about the Unconscious Mind many times before and about how it seems to take decisions before the conscious mind is aware of it. We have also seen how the Unconscious mind is better at forecasting future events than the conscious mind. We have also seen how the Unconscious mind is probably responsible for the placebo effect. Refer earlier threads.
We have gotten used to thinking of the Unconscious Mind as a subsidiary store house of the Conscious mind. This is most likely incorrect. The Unconscious Mind is much larger and much more powerful than the Conscious Mind and the Conscious mind is probably just the front office. Some people say that the Unconscious Mind is like a parallel processor while the Conscious mind is like a sequential processor.
Our 'Aha' moments are therefore most likely inputs from the Unconscious mind and therefore more reliable. Problem is of course that we are unable to separate these inputs from the usual clutter and natural impulses and therefore end up making mistakes.
Cheers.
Sriram
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One of the interesting things about sport is that, within a very restricted zone, we enjoy watching people being instinctive. OK, they also train like mad, and practice lots of stuff, yet one of the exhilarating moments in football is seeing that flash of genius that is unthought. Ask him how he did it, and he will often say, dunno. It just flashed out of his instinct and genius, ole.
But we deliberately set up these restricted zones to show this. If you lived that like that, you might end up in disaster, and with 10 kids.
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Rhi,
I think (hahahaha)...
Shouldn't that be "I think (ahahahah)..."?
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Sriram,
Our 'Aha' moments are therefore most likely inputs from the Unconscious mind and therefore more reliable.
NON SEKWITEWER ALERT! NON SEKWITEWER ALERT!
Whether or not they're a product of our unconscious minds says nothing to whether they are "therefore more accurate".
And besides, how would you know whether or not they're accurate at all but for testing them - ie, the "methodical analysis" you disdain in your OP?
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As someone who has anxiety, to varying degrees, I agree with that, NS - it's a classic example of where feelings lead you in completely the wrong direction.
Yes, in states such as anxiety, stress and depression and even moments of enhanced elation it's probably best not to trust the intuition. Better times may be when we are in a state of peace, with no rumbling emotions getting in the way.
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Dear Sriram,
The way I see it, we have evolution stuck down our throats " don'tchaknow we are descended from apes/Monkeys " and yes I get that, but we are more, scientists claim that the Universe is something like 13 billion years old, that is where we came from, tell me about that, we were born in a twinkling of an eye, 13 billion years ago, us humans, all animal and plant life, 13 billion years ago, that is the aha moment, that is the gut instinct.
Wigs Talk about football, when Pele got the ball at his foot, he didn't see the opposition goal, he was a cunning minnow who had to weave and dodge to reach the coral which was his safety, tell me about the fish in Pele.
We, us, Humans have all that in us, written into what scientists call the DNA, fish, reptile, mammal, single cell, stardust, that is where we started from, tell me about that, we are all made in Gods image, 13 billion years ago, or so the scientists tell us.
Gonnagle.
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Dear Sriram,
The way I see it, we have evolution stuck down our throats " don'tchaknow we are descended from apes/Monkeys " and yes I get that, but we are more, scientists claim that the Universe is something like 13 billion years old, that is where we came from, tell me about that, we were born in a twinkling of an eye, 13 billion years ago, us humans, all animal and plant life, 13 billion years ago, that is the aha moment, that is the gut instinct.
Wigs Talk about football, when Pele got the ball at his foot, he didn't see the opposition goal, he was a cunning minnow who had to weave and dodge to reach the coral which was his safety, tell me about the fish in Pele.
We, us, Humans have all that in us, written into what scientists call the DNA, fish, reptile, mammal, single cell, stardust, that is where we started from, tell me about that, we are all made in Gods image, 13 billion years ago, or so the scientists tell us.
Gonnagle.
Of course you realise there was no life 13.7 billion years ago.
Humans I think are about 200,000 years old?
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Dear Berational,
Ding!! thank you for making my point, how do you know, you only know what we "call life".
Step outside of your box my friend, let God and the Universe engulf you.
Gonnagle.
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Dear Berational,
Ding!! thank you for making my point, how do you know, you only know what we "call life".
Step outside of your box my friend, let God and the Universe engulf you.
Gonnagle.
Know is quite strong it is not 100% certain but biologists that study this sort of thing say around 200,000 years as a maximum figure.
Just making stuff up does you no good.
Out of what box?
This is just an empty deepity used by people to make it appear they have some greater knowledge.
I very much doubt that you do.
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Hi everyone,
Here is a Science Daily article about trusting your sudden insight rather than the methodical analysis.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/03/160307144013.htm
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When a solution to a problem seems to have come to you out of thin air, it turns out you've more than likely been struck with the right idea, according to a new study.
A series of experiments conducted by a team of researchers determined that a person's sudden insights are often more accurate at solving problems than thinking them through analytically.
"However, insight is unconscious and automatic -- it can't be rushed. When the process runs to completion in its own time and all the dots are connected unconsciously, the solution pops into awareness as an Aha! moment. This means that when a really creative, breakthrough idea is needed, it's often best to wait for the insight rather than settling for an idea that resulted from analytical thinking."
Analytical thinking is best used for problems in which known strategies have been laid out for solutions, such as arithmetic, Kounios said. But for new problems without a set path for finding a solution, insight is often best. The new study shows that more weight should be placed on these sudden thoughts.
"This means that in all kinds of personal and professional situations, when a person has a genuine, sudden insight, then the idea has to be taken seriously," Kounios said. "It may not always be correct, but it can have a higher probability of being right than an idea that is methodically worked out."
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Cheers.
Sriram
It's called the 'eureka moment' in the here and now.
Do you think Moses had one of those moments with the burning bush when God spoke to him?
What about the Egyptians do you think the waters parting before them was a eureka moment or rather when they closed back in on them... Like the water opening was a sign God really was leading them.....
Eureka moment.... May be God put all the answers there in the first place. That eureka moments are just Gods plan coming into being...
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Gonners,
Love you like a brother and all that, but really...
The way I see it, we have evolution stuck down our throats...
No more than the germ theory of disease or the theory of gravity is "stuck down out throats" is it?
.,,"don'tchaknow we are descended from apes/Monkeys"
No, we are apes and we and monkeys are descended form a common ancestor.
...and yes I get that,
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...but we are more
Than descendants of preceding species? How are we "more" than that?
-... scientists claim that the Universe is something like 13 billion years old, that is where we came from, tell me about that, we were born in a twinkling of an eye, 13 billion years ago, us humans, all animal and plant life, 13 billion years ago, that is the aha moment, that is the gut instinct.
No, the universe started around then but organic chemistry came much later, and primitive life (bacteria, eukaryotes etc) came much later still. Homo sapiens evolved at the equivalent to a minute to midnight compared with the age of the universe...
...which is a pretty odd piece of design for a god who knocked up a universe just for us.
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It's so that we could have the fun of digging up fossils, Blue.
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Rhi,
It's so that we could have the fun of digging up fossils, Blue.
Aha!
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Dear Berational,
Ding!! thank you for making my point, how do you know, you only know what we "call life".
Step outside of your box my friend, let God and the Universe engulf you.
Gonnagle.
I think BR's box is somewhat larger than the one you are saking him to step into, Gonners! :)
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It's called the 'eureka moment' in the here and now.
Do you think Moses had one of those moments with the burning bush when God spoke to him?
What about the Egyptians do you think the waters parting before them was a eureka moment or rather when they closed back in on them... Like the water opening was a sign God really was leading them.....
Eureka moment.... May be God put all the answers there in the first place. That eureka moments are just Gods plan coming into being...
Sassy,
Yes...Moses probably had quite a few 'Aha' moments when he was wandering in the desert. He probably realized that the real power and wisdom was inside him....and then managed to tap it.....and came up with the Ten Commandments. The 'I AM'.
I don't know about the Christian God.....but we do have access to significant knowledge, strength and love deep within us. This Consciousness is also what connects all of us and the entire ecological system together. According to Hindu beliefs this is the true God.
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Sriram,
Yes...Moses probably had quite a few 'Aha' moments when he was wandering in the desert. He probably realized that the real power and wisdom was inside him....and then managed to tap it.....and came up with the Ten Commandments. The 'I AM'.
I don't know about the Christian God.....but we do have access to significant knowledge, strength and love deep within us. This Consciousness is also what connects all of us and the entire ecological system together. According to Hindu beliefs this is the true God.
That's nice for you. Are you now on board though with the fact that an "aha moment" is worthless until you test it using a "methodical analysis" as you put it in the OP?
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Not sure what the point of testing it would be BH ... if you found it was wrong it could not have been a real Aha moment. If it was right ...then it was ... so well done for recognising it.
It all goes to show that if you get things right then you are the kind of person that gets things right, but, if you don't, then you are the sort that gets things wrong. Some difficult people get things right sometimes, wrong at other times...if they only listened to their intuition they would know if they were wrong or right before they started.
Don't worry though .. I had an Aha moment and now know I'm one of them.
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Well, I had an 'aha moment' this evening (if this counts!).
Today, I was minding my wee granddaughter. On the journey home, once off the motorway, I have a choice of two routes to reach our house. One is more scenic, and at that time of the evening, around 6:30pm, although the traffic is still heavy there are not so many lights to get through as the other route. This is my favourite route.
The second route, re mileage, is shorter but with more lights and eventually a 10 mile, single-track windy road. Not so keen on this route.
Every time, it's the same sequence of events: I approach the motorway slip-road; try to weigh up the situation in both lanes; then make a decision. This evening I decided on route two, simply because I was a little weary and thought I'll gamble with the lights and hopefully be home in not too long a time.
Off the slip-road I came straight into a line of stationary traffic. I thought, auch weil, ya cannee always get it right. But.... further along the journey, lights all on green (strange how the lights can do that, and sometimes, on and on). No backed-up traffic at any roundabouts..... and home in a very reasonable time. Yeah, one of those rare moments!
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So an aha moment is just a choice?
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You're right, Nearly, it's not a choice.
But, at the time, half of me wanted to take my favourite route but although I didn't really want to take the second route, I was feeling 'pulled' in that direction. So.... maybe it counts?
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You're right, Nearly, it's not a choice.
But, at the time, half of me wanted to take my favourite route but although I didn't really want to take the second route, I was feeling 'pulled' in that direction. So.... maybe it counts?
Choice is a dark child that haunts the row of kings
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Choice is a dark child that haunts the row of kings
What a lovely sounding phrase! What does it mean?
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What a lovely sounding phrase! What does it mean?
It's just something that came to mind. If anything I'm noting that the very question of choice is behind many many threads on here.
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It's just something that came to mind. If anything I'm noting that the very question of choice is behind many many threads on here.
Yes, our ability to choose seems non-existent to some people.
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I have had several 'Aha' moments lately. We have been moving several items of furniture etc around the house, and the places I thought they would look good, appear to have worked. :)
Floo, my mind screams when my wife starts on one of her 'aha' let's rearrange the furniture modes, I smile and just do it because I'm very well trained, but it drives me barmy, even more barmy than usual.
I think 'women moving furniture' is a part of that book on how to understand women, you know, the one that takes a substantial fork lift truck to lift volume one.
ippy
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Floo, my mind screams when my wife starts on one of her 'aha' let's rearrange the furniture modes, I smile and just do it because I'm very well trained, but it drives me barmy, even more barmy than usual.
I think 'women moving furniture' is a part of that book on how to understand women, you know, the one that takes a substantial fork lift truck to lift volume one.
ippy
Hugh does it, too ... but not with furniture, with ornaments, of which he has more than your average gift shop. I am constantly in trouble for not noticing the "new arrangement". >:(
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Hugh does it, too ... but not with furniture, with ornaments, of which he has more than your average gift shop. I am constantly in trouble for not noticing the "new arrangement". >:(
I hope it's not 'Annie Wilkes' style ornament-trouble Len? :o
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I hope it's not 'Annie Wilkes' style ornament-trouble Len? :o
Blimey Seb, I had never heard of the woman until now, and after googling her I wish I hadn't! :(
Nah, Hugh's ornaments are conventional ones ... clocks, Christmas themes, Hallowe'en, animals and birds etc. All are collected from trips to the car boot sale ... we have one in Polop which is quite famous for its size and variety. Hundreds of people attend every Sunday morning, and the stuff you can find there is quite amazing.
Needless to say, I keep well away from it. :)
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Blimey Seb, I had never heard of the woman until now, and after googling her I wish I hadn't! :(
Nah, Hugh's ornaments are conventional ones ... clocks, Christmas themes, Hallowe'en, animals and birds etc.
Birds? oh no Len, please tell me he doesn't have a ceramic penguin? :o :o :o :o :o
If he does,you had better watch this....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E55ni_xc4ww
...then run - run while you still can.
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Floo, my mind screams when my wife starts on one of her 'aha' let's rearrange the furniture modes, I smile and just do it because I'm very well trained, but it drives me barmy, even more barmy than usual.
I think 'women moving furniture' is a part of that book on how to understand women, you know, the one that takes a substantial fork lift truck to lift volume one.
ippy
When I am in furniture moving mode it is down to me to shift the stuff, I have muscles like Popeye in consequence! ;D
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Moving furniture is marvellous as is 'getting rid of stuff' (as long as we choose what to get rid of) and changing the curtains.
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Hugh does it, too ... but not with furniture, with ornaments, of which he has more than your average gift shop. I am constantly in trouble for not noticing the "new arrangement". >:(
The correct responce is yes darling it looks much better there, that sort of answer, I find, helps to extend life expctancy a little.
ippy
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When I am in furniture moving mode it is down to me to shift the stuff, I have muscles like Popeye in consequence! ;D
It's not the moving Floo, it's the why? If we're comfortable as things are, why move them?
Ippy
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Birds? oh no Len, please tell me he doesn't have a ceramic penguin? :o :o :o :o :o
If he does,you had better watch this....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E55ni_xc4ww
...then run - run while you still can.
Oh shit man! Don't give me any more of those things! Made me feel sick. If that's "entertainment" the world is lost.
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Oh shit man! Don't give me any more of those things! Made me feel sick. If that's "entertainment" the world is lost.
She won an Oscar for that part.
Great film.
But if you really want scary then watch this.......
Www.onlykidding ;)
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Hi everyone,
These Aha moments are not just during decision making times. They could also give us many new insights and ideas that we have not thought of before. Right from Einstein's and Newton's ideas to all our sudden insights ......they are all Aha moments that come in from the Unconscious.
Civilization has progressed so much from the stone age....only because of these sudden Aha moments. Most of such ideas and impulses do not need to be 'understood' by the logical mind. They are those moments that make living so unpredictable and diverse. We just live those moments without necessarily making any logical sense of it.
In the case of philosophical or scientific ideas.....these sudden insights are like seeds that get planted and which germinate by and by. The rational mind thereafter consolidates these ideas and formulates them in line with our sequential logical understanding.
Cheers.
Sriram