Religion and Ethics Forum
General Category => Politics & Current Affairs => Topic started by: Hope on July 01, 2016, 06:16:36 PM
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Dear Mr Gove,
I heard some of the speech you gave at the launch of your bid to become leader of the Tory party and, potentially, PM. I was struck by your suggestion that you’d be the candidate for change; you probably would be, but I’m afraid that as an ex-teacher, I have been really worried for the children whose education you potentially damaged by your so-called ‘improvements’. Whilst I agreed with some of them, there were others I found to be seriously at odds with accepted educational principles.
I am concerned for the future of the British people – whether the Scots choose to continue to be described in that way or not – should you get into leadership and become prime minister. I am therefore writing to ask you to reconsider your standing in the forthcoming leadership election, as I believe that there are better people for the role than you. In fact, not that I like Boris Johnson all that much, I believe that he would have made a better PM than you ever could.
Yours
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In response, one signatory to the letter opined that Gove suffered from a "blinkered, almost messianic, self-belief, which appears to have continually ignored the expertise and wisdom of teachers, head-teachers, advisers and academics, whom he often claims to have consulted
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Gove
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"I did almost everything not to be a candidate for the leadership of this party. I was so very reluctant because I know my limitations. Whatever charisma is, I don't have it, whatever glamour may be, I don't think anyone could ever associate me with it.
"I am standing for the leadership not as a result of calculation, I am standing with the burning desire to transform our country," he said.
"Because my heart tells me that if we are bold, if we refuse to settle for business as usual, if we dare to dream and summon up all the qualities that have made this country the greatest in the world, then for Britain - and its people - our best days lie ahead."
Mr Gove said he knew his own limitations but he had "a clear vision of what our future must look like" and had a track record to show he could deliver it. He pledged to leave the EU's single market, make public services "more human" and strengthen the United Kingdom.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36679741
Maybe it's just my imagination, but does anyone see anything disturbing about Gove in those two links?
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http://tinyurl.com/jo46ce4
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Maybe it's just my imagination, but does anyone see anything disturbing about Gove in those two links?
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.......He doesn't really have a plan?
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.......He doesn't really have a plan?
No, to my reading of what he is saying, he sounds almost like he thinks it's his destiny, he doesn't really want it, but is called to it.
No one else see that?
Plus the first link describing his character from another instance. " blinkered almost messianic"
I'm not sure he is the best for PM.
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The article from psychology today doesn't inspire me either.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/slightly-blighty/201607/the-psychology-betrayal
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People who have such a clear veiw of what the future holds, may be a bit blinkered.
Whoever gets the job of PM is going to get thrown in at the deep end, and is going to have to be reactive to advice when negotiating.
If he does think it is his destiny, then he won't be.
It's a bit Christian.
Feeling you are being called by God to do a task you think is your destiny, but you don't want to do it, really.
It's what I see, in the articles.
He doesn't speak in those terms quite, but he does sort of.
All the stuff about him not wanting it, it implies he feels chosen.
Ok perhaps I've gone 2 + 2 = 5
But can you not see it?
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http://www1.cbn.com/family/when-god-says-%26quot%3Bgo%26quot%3B
Like Jonah.
It's a sort of Christian modesty.
He didn't want to go......... But well ......he had too. It was on his heart.
It's Michael Gove's own business if he does feel like that, but it might make him a bit inflexible in his heart if he has such a clear vision of Brexit.
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I did almost everything not to be a candidate for the leadership of this party. I was so very reluctant because I know my limitations. Whatever charisma is, I don't have it, whatever glamour may be, I don't think anyone could ever associate me with it.
"I am standing for the leadership not as a result of calculation, I am standing with the burning desire to transform our country," he said.
"Because my heart tells me that if we are bold, if we refuse to settle for business as usual, if we dare to dream and summon up all the qualities that have made this country the greatest in the world, then for Britain - and its people - our best days lie ahead."
Mr Gove said he knew his own limitations but he had "a clear vision of what our future must look like" and had a track record to show he could deliver it. He pledged to leave the EU's single market, make public services "more human" and strengthen the United Kingdom.
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I don't think he'll get the job Rose, in which case we have nothing to worry about and he can feel as 'called' as he likes. I could be wrong, hope not.
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I don't think he'll get the job Rose, in which case we have nothing to worry about and he can feel as 'called' as he likes. I could be wrong, hope not.
H's probably using the same tactics as in the referendum. He thinks it'll improve his street cred, but he doesn't really expect to win. I hope this is the case this time.
Make no mistake, this is a poisoned chalice. The person who triggers article 50 will be seen to be responsible for the break up of the UK and most Tories think those uppity Scots need to remain under the yoke of English rule, or something like that (that's not how I would characterise the relationship of Scotland to England, but I think that is the view of most of the Little Englander Tory/UKIP supporters).
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... and most Tories think those uppity Scots need to remain under the yoke of English rule, or something like that (that's not how I would characterise the relationship of Scotland to England, but I think that is the view of most of the Little Englander Tory/UKIP supporters).
jeremy, not sure tat many Tories think like this, but if that is a view that exists in Westminster, it is likely prevalent in the Labour ranks as well. I also don't think it exists in UKIP; they're probably not sufficiently politically-savvy to even think that the Scots are important.
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jeremy, not sure tat many Tories think like this, but if that is a view that exists in Westminster, it is likely prevalent in the Labour ranks as well.
The next PM isn't going to be from the ranks of the Labour party. It's not relevant.
I also don't think it exists in UKIP; they're probably not sufficiently politically-savvy to even think that the Scots are important.
That is demonstrably false. UKIP were very much against of Scottish Independence
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I composed a poem on Facebook. I reproduce it here for your edification.
There once was a fellow named Gove
Who was hated from Thurso to Hove.
He said I'll pretend
I'm not a bell end,
Though my head is a fine shade of mauve.
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Dear Mr Gove,
I heard some of the speech you gave at the launch of your bid to become leader of the Tory party and, potentially, PM. I was struck by your suggestion that you’d be the candidate for change; you probably would be, but I’m afraid that as an ex-teacher, I have been really worried for the children whose education you potentially damaged by your so-called ‘improvements’. Whilst I agreed with some of them, there were others I found to be seriously at odds with accepted educational principles.
I am concerned for the future of the British people – whether the Scots choose to continue to be described in that way or not – should you get into leadership and become prime minister. I am therefore writing to ask you to reconsider your standing in the forthcoming leadership election, as I believe that there are better people for the role than you. In fact, not that I like Boris Johnson all that much, I believe that he would have made a better PM than you ever could.
Yours
BRILLIANT! :)
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This has some therapeutic value:
http://games.usvsth3m.com/slap-michael-gove/