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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Bubbles on September 07, 2016, 11:42:57 AM

Title: Five day old baby was thumped by man in Manchester
Post by: Bubbles on September 07, 2016, 11:42:57 AM
He said he thought it was a doll.

How disgusting is that?  >:(

I hope the baby is ok.

Some people are just disgusting.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-37294307

It made me cross, had the parents and onlookers clobbered him back I wouldn't have had much sympathy for him  >:(

There are times when I can sympathise with people who take the law into their own hands.

I think I'd have killed the asshole!  >:(

Just as well we don't have guns like  in the states, that would have been a dead man walking if it was my baby that was five days old  >:(

http://jezebel.com/mommy-get-your-gun-an-investigation-of-mothers-packing-1711447307
Title: Re: Five day old baby was thumped by man in Manchester
Post by: BeRational on September 07, 2016, 11:48:56 AM
He said he thought it was a doll.

How disgusting is that?  >:(

I hope the baby is ok.

Some people are just disgusting.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-37294307

It made me cross, had the parents and onlookers clobbered him back I wouldn't have had much sympathy for him  >:(

There are times when I can sympathise with people who take the law into their own hands.

I think I'd have killed the asshole!  >:(

If it was my child, he would not yet have come round in hospital!

The parents should have battered him senseless.
Title: Re: Five day old baby was thumped by man in Manchester
Post by: jeremyp on September 07, 2016, 01:21:47 PM
If it was my child, he would not yet have come round in hospital!

The parents should have battered him senseless.
I would have some sympathy but that doesn't make it right. The correct course of action is to convict him in a court of law and put him in prison for a bit.
Title: Re: Five day old baby was thumped by man in Manchester
Post by: BeRational on September 07, 2016, 01:23:08 PM
I would have some sympathy but that doesn't make it right. The correct course of action is to convict him in a court of law and put him in prison for a bit.

You are quite correct of course.

I very much doubt he will go to prison.

The time for justice has passed, and nothing will happen.
Title: Re: Five day old baby was thumped by man in Manchester
Post by: floo on September 07, 2016, 01:28:44 PM
I hope the piece of evil scum is banged up for a long time. Taking the law into one's own hands, however tempting that might be, isn't wise, two wrongs don't make a right.
Title: Re: Five day old baby was thumped by man in Manchester
Post by: jeremyp on September 07, 2016, 01:34:21 PM
I hope the piece of evil scum is banged up for a long time.
What is it about this particular offence that makes him evil scum?
Title: Re: Five day old baby was thumped by man in Manchester
Post by: floo on September 07, 2016, 01:39:08 PM
What is it about this particular offence that makes him evil scum?

I thought that was obvious!
Title: Re: Five day old baby was thumped by man in Manchester
Post by: jeremyp on September 07, 2016, 01:48:28 PM
I thought that was obvious!
Maybe he is just an idiot with anger management issues.

If you describe everybody who breaks the law as "evil scum" the phrase becomes meaningless.
Title: Re: Five day old baby was thumped by man in Manchester
Post by: Nearly Sane on September 07, 2016, 02:08:27 PM
Maybe he is just an idiot with anger management issues.

If you describe everybody who breaks the law as "evil scum" the phrase becomes meaningless.
is Floo saying that everyone who breaks the law is evil scum?
Title: Re: Five day old baby was thumped by man in Manchester
Post by: floo on September 07, 2016, 02:16:01 PM
Maybe he is just an idiot with anger management issues.

If you describe everybody who breaks the law as "evil scum" the phrase becomes meaningless.

Are you making excuses for that evil piece of scum?
Title: Re: Five day old baby was thumped by man in Manchester
Post by: floo on September 07, 2016, 02:17:32 PM
is Floo saying that everyone who breaks the law is evil scum?

No I am not. Of course it is wrong to break the law, but some crimes are greater than others, hitting a tiny baby is indefensible.
Title: Re: Five day old baby was thumped by man in Manchester
Post by: jeremyp on September 07, 2016, 02:30:00 PM
Are you making excuses for that evil piece of scum?

No, I'm criticising your penchant for characterising anybody who breaks the law as "an evil piece of scum".

Title: Re: Five day old baby was thumped by man in Manchester
Post by: floo on September 07, 2016, 03:15:22 PM
No, I'm criticising your penchant for characterising anybody who breaks the law as "an evil piece of scum".

Garbage that isn't true!
Title: Re: Five day old baby was thumped by man in Manchester
Post by: Aruntraveller on September 07, 2016, 03:20:31 PM
Garbage that isn't true!

It is a characterization you resort to quite often:

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Another piece of scum outed, I have no sympathy for Vaz whatsoever!




Title: Re: Five day old baby was thumped by man in Manchester
Post by: Nearly Sane on September 07, 2016, 03:42:50 PM
It is a characterization you resort to quite often:
ah but Vaz only made it to scum, not evil scum, there are gradations of scum
Title: Re: Five day old baby was thumped by man in Manchester
Post by: Aruntraveller on September 07, 2016, 03:46:51 PM
ah but Vaz only made it to scum, not evil scum, there are gradations of scum

and if not scum there is always the sanity clause:

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It would get one hell of a lot worse with the insane Trump in charge! He would be a danger to the whole world.
Title: Re: Five day old baby was thumped by man in Manchester
Post by: jeremyp on September 07, 2016, 03:51:53 PM
Garbage that isn't true!
You do it quite a lot.
Title: Re: Five day old baby was thumped by man in Manchester
Post by: floo on September 07, 2016, 03:57:16 PM
You do it quite a lot.

When I regard a crime as very serious, like paedophilia.
Title: Re: Five day old baby was thumped by man in Manchester
Post by: Nearly Sane on September 07, 2016, 04:01:37 PM
and if not scum there is always the sanity clause:
you have to remember that Floo and Jack Knave are both qualified mental practitioners
Title: Re: Five day old baby was thumped by man in Manchester
Post by: Bubbles on September 07, 2016, 04:07:23 PM
Ah!

Floo wuz ere!

 ;)

http://tinyurl.com/hjvbvl9

Must be one of her followers  ;D
Title: Re: Five day old baby was thumped by man in Manchester
Post by: floo on September 07, 2016, 05:02:13 PM
Ah!

Floo wuz ere!

 ;)

http://tinyurl.com/hjvbvl9

Must be one of her followers  ;D

HA! HA! that is vandalism and illegal!
Title: Re: Five day old baby was thumped by man in Manchester
Post by: jeremyp on September 07, 2016, 05:53:53 PM
HA! HA! that is vandalism and illegal!
Putting a sign on your own gate is vandalism?
Title: Re: Five day old baby was thumped by man in Manchester
Post by: ippy on September 07, 2016, 07:39:44 PM
Sure it's a terrible thing to do but if he's not all there, what do we do with him?

ippy
Title: Re: Five day old baby was thumped by man in Manchester
Post by: floo on September 08, 2016, 08:26:28 AM
Sure it's a terrible thing to do but if he's not all there, what do we do with him?

ippy

If the guy is insane he should be put in an asylum.
Title: Re: Five day old baby was thumped by man in Manchester
Post by: jeremyp on September 08, 2016, 09:14:40 AM
Sure it's a terrible thing to do but if he's not all there, what do we do with him?

ippy

If he's suffering from some mental illness we need to treat him and hopefully cure him. Regardless, he needs to be put on trial for assault.
Title: Re: Five day old baby was thumped by man in Manchester
Post by: ippy on September 09, 2016, 11:08:54 AM
If he's suffering from some mental illness we need to treat him and hopefully cure him. Regardless, he needs to be put on trial for assault.

I have no reason to disagree with you, it's just that even if we take your suggestion it's one of those areas where there no straight answers that's why I was wondering, what do we do with him and others that tend to come under a similar heading?

If we do ever get to a stage where we can kind of brain engineer these tendencies out of people, it then starts to get into somewhere like 'Brave New World' territory.

Just a poser; admittedly I suppose there's no alternative to putting him into some kind of protective custody.

ippy   
Title: Re: Five day old baby was thumped by man in Manchester
Post by: Brownie on September 09, 2016, 12:06:55 PM
Horrifying!
Title: Re: Five day old baby was thumped by man in Manchester
Post by: jeremyp on September 09, 2016, 02:47:07 PM
what do we do with him and others that tend to come under a similar heading?
We don't know what heading he comes under yet.

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If we do ever get to a stage where we can kind of brain engineer these tendencies out of people, it then starts to get into somewhere like 'Brave New World' territory.
If it's either that or lock them up forever, wouldn't that be preferable?
Title: Re: Five day old baby was thumped by man in Manchester
Post by: Harrowby Hall on September 09, 2016, 05:13:59 PM

Just a poser; admittedly I suppose there's no alternative to putting him into some kind of protective custody.


If by that you mean prison, my guess is that he will have to be protected from the other inmates.