Religion and Ethics Forum
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Nearly Sane on September 26, 2016, 11:04:17 AM
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Thought this was interesting, but then I would!
https://betterhumans.coach.me/cognitive-bias-cheat-sheet-55a472476b18#.9yyy6tvng
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NS,
Thought this was interesting, but then I would!
So do I, and logically well thought out too. Thanks for posting.
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Thought this was interesting, but then I would!
https://betterhumans.coach.me/cognitive-bias-cheat-sheet-55a472476b18#.9yyy6tvng
It has one problem... it suggests man looks for something to support his own beliefs/truths. Which makes a person dishonest in their suggesting they are looking for truth. To look for TRUTH is to search for what is the evidence to the answer of the question we seek.
Even this article is more about the nature of a mans pattern of thinking rather than his nature/nurture for truth.
There is something said in the bible and which can be applied in any time.
And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
Do atheists look elsewhere for 'excuses' to why they have no faith.
Do Christians need any other truth than who 'Jesus Christ was', to why they believe?
How can you search for anything unless you have a question you want answering?
If you search with the mindset that you believe you have the answer; then isn't it about justifying your belief not
seeking the truth about it?
Better humans? Could there have been a better human than Jesus Christ?
If he is the perfect example of what we as humans should be and should do.
Isn't the correct question: How can I be like Christ?
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Better humans? Could there have been a better human than Jesus Christ?
Possibly.
Unless you of course have detailed knowledge of every human being that ever lived.
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It would be extremely difficult, no, impossible, to think of anyone better than Jesus, because he was perfect.
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It would be extremely difficult, no, impossible, to think of anyone better than Jesus, because he was perfect.
And this, and earlier discussion of this Jesus chappie has to do with the OP in what way?
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And this, and earlier discussion of this Jesus chappie has to do with the OP in what way?
Merely making a point in response to an earlier comment, old chappie.
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And this, and earlier discussion of this Jesus chappie has to do with the OP in what way?
I thought Sassy was just giving an example of a cognitive bias. It's impossible for her to admit the possibility that she might have the wrong god because she has so much emotional capital tied up in Jesus.
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Very, very good, NS. I keep going back to particular sections, hee hee, won't say which.
Thanks for posting it.
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Very, very good, NS. I keep going back to particular sections, hee hee, won't say which.
Thanks for posting it.
Thanks, Brownie, it's useful for everyone to look at their thinking on this basis. It's one of the reasons I find the idea of a worldview unconvincing.
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I thought Sassy was just giving an example of a cognitive bias. It's impossible for her to admit the possibility that she might have the wrong god because she has so much emotional capital tied up in Jesus.
...her version of Jesus as well, which is different to most of the other believers here!
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The cognitive bias cheat sheet has relevance to everyone whatever their beliefs. It's about human nature which we all share.
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Cognitive Bias, assuming we all have this tendency sounds fair enough to me but tendency or not, where is there any evidence that supports the god/gods idea, this lack of evidence, I wouldn't think has anything to do with cognitive bias.
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I must admit I didn't read any of it with a religious hat on which is why I feel the entire thing is relevant to everyone. Because everyone believes things, has values, regardless of spirituality or lack of. The section which says we are drawn towards ideas that align with our values (my paraphrase), is, in my view, particularly pertinent.
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I must admit I didn't read any of it with a religious hat on which is why I feel the entire thing is relevant to everyone. Because everyone believes things, has values, regardless of spirituality or lack of. The section which says we are drawn towards ideas that align with our values (my paraphrase), is, in my view, particularly pertinent.
Yep, my reading too Brownie.
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It is probably a case for believers that you either know God or you don't.
You cannot remove God when it suits you to see things as the world does.
Hence the reason true worshippers worship in Spirit and Truth.
Christ was fully human but he did not have the sinful nature of man.
How is anyone going to apply a human bias to him and make him the same as us?
No one has fully thought this through. Not even the writer. Doesn't anyone find it strange he missed the exception to his own rules of thinking in this instance?
Christ by his very nature never lied. When he spoke about God he was telling the truth.
No human bias not even the bias of the usual human nature to sin.
It doesn't work whether applied in a religious bias or not.
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I must admit I didn't read any of it with a religious hat on which is why I feel the entire thing is relevant to everyone. Because everyone believes things, has values, regardless of spirituality or lack of. The section which says we are drawn towards ideas that align with our values (my paraphrase), is, in my view, particularly pertinent.
But a reading of the conversions of Augustine St Paul. And Bunyan show that Jesus was what they did not want. Christianity was against St Pauls theism.
Even in the relatively unspectacular conversion of CS Lewis Lewis starts his bus journey not believing Jesus was the son of God and ends the journey as a believer.
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Indeed. I accept what you say Vlad but don't quite see the relevance here. We all have different journeys through life, surely? NS posted the link on the General Discussion specifically because it was not a subject primarily concerned with religious beliefs.