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General Category => Literature, Music, Art & Entertainment => Topic started by: Nearly Sane on October 13, 2016, 12:15:14 PM

Title: Bob Dylan wins Nobel prize for Literature
Post by: Nearly Sane on October 13, 2016, 12:15:14 PM: I suspect many of my friends will be pleased by this

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37643621
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Post by: john on October 13, 2016, 12:20:41 PM: Brilliant.

And well deserved IMO.
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Post by: wigginhall on October 13, 2016, 12:31:00 PM: Excellent news. It brings the Nobel down to the street, and ordinary people.
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Post by: Gordon on October 13, 2016, 12:49:44 PM: Never been a fan personally, but he has produced a significant body of culturally important work - so it is well deserved.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan wins Nobel prize for Literature
Post by: john on October 13, 2016, 01:33:51 PM: This award is a first for songwriters and prompts me to ponder who else might be a candidate in future years, here is a short list of some whose work has similar cultural significance to Dylan's;

Tom Waits
Peter Hammill
Van Morrison
Joni Mitchell
Michelle Shocked

Any other suggestions?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan wins Nobel prize for Literature
Post by: Nearly Sane on October 13, 2016, 01:52:43 PM: Quote from: john on October 13, 2016, 01:33:51 PM
This award is a first for songwriters and prompts me to ponder who else might be a candidate in future years, here is a short list of some whose work has similar cultural significance to Dylan's;

Tom Waits
Peter Hammill
Van Morrison
Joni Mitchell
Michelle Shocked

Any other suggestions?

I'd agree with Joni, not convinced that the others are up there, though I could be persuaded about Tom Waits. I think a case could be made for Springsteen but I fear that a combined literature/peace prize could go to Bono
Title: Re: Bob Dylan wins Nobel prize for Literature
Post by: Aruntraveller on October 13, 2016, 01:58:42 PM: Quote from: john on October 13, 2016, 01:33:51 PM
This award is a first for songwriters and prompts me to ponder who else might be a candidate in future years, here is a short list of some whose work has similar cultural significance to Dylan's;

Tom Waits
Peter Hammill
Van Morrison
Joni Mitchell
Michelle Shocked

Any other suggestions?

Neil Young.

On the subject of Dylan - I think fully deserved for his writing, less so for his singing!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan wins Nobel prize for Literature
Post by: Nearly Sane on October 13, 2016, 02:07:53 PM: Perhaps it will be the UK's best selling singles artist of the 80s

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37628772
Title: Re: Bob Dylan wins Nobel prize for Literature
Post by: Hope on October 13, 2016, 06:02:52 PM: Quote from: wigginhall on October 13, 2016, 12:31:00 PM
Excellent news. It brings the Nobel down to the street, and ordinary people.
Whilst I'd agree with the first sentence, I'm less sure about the second half of the second. Bob Dylan is no 'ordinary' person. He lost a claim to that label decades ago.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan wins Nobel prize for Literature
Post by: Nearly Sane on October 13, 2016, 06:11:35 PM: Quote from: Hope on October 13, 2016, 06:02:52 PM
Whilst I'd agree with the first sentence, I'm less sure about the second half of the second. Bob Dylan is no 'ordinary' person. He lost a claim to that label decades ago.
wigginhall's post does not claim that Dylan is an ordinary person
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Post by: SqueakyVoice on October 13, 2016, 07:22:12 PM: It's remarkable, after all these years, there's finally a winner of the Nobel Prize for Literature that I can sing better than.
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Post by: Anchorman on October 13, 2016, 08:02:27 PM: Great stuff! It brings a tear to a folk geek's eye.
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Post by: Brownie on October 14, 2016, 11:22:47 PM: Wonderful.
As is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRpTYdcjW3g
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Post by: jeremyp on October 15, 2016, 01:28:55 AM: Quote from: SqueakyVoice on October 13, 2016, 07:22:12 PM
It's remarkable, after all these years, there's finally a winner of the Nobel Prize for Literature that I can sing better than.
Really? No previous winner has been noted for their singing ability.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan wins Nobel prize for Literature
Post by: jeremyp on October 15, 2016, 01:30:05 AM: I wonder what it says about me that the first three people I thought of are all already dead (David Bowie, Lou Reed and John Lennon).
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Post by: jeremyp on October 15, 2016, 01:31:19 AM: Here is next year's winner (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=video&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwihuqO5xdvPAhXEKGMKHTi-D1oQtwIIHDAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DdQw4w9WgXcQ&usg=AFQjCNEPGa2VKuL0GefK_nkQoh9csTD8OA&sig2=pTUXmQriA8lUJXidzesYjQ&bvm=bv.135974163,d.cGw)
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Post by: Brownie on October 15, 2016, 03:15:12 PM: Well done jeremy, an underrated performer! I don't know about winning the Novel Literature prize but would love to see him compete on Strictly. This one too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHK3acm_3n8&list=RDoHK3acm_3n8#t=199
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Post by: Hope on October 15, 2016, 04:16:53 PM: Did folk hear that the BBC used a clip of a Dylan impersonator to illustrate this story when it was first announced? Think it was covered as the final item on this http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00qjrk2 (this week's Newswatch)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan wins Nobel prize for Literature
Post by: Brownie on October 15, 2016, 10:13:28 PM: There has never been a shortage of Dylan impersonators, Hope :).
Title: Re: Bob Dylan wins Nobel prize for Literature
Post by: Hope on October 29, 2016, 05:57:36 PM: I notice that he has now broken his silence

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37806639
Title: Re: Bob Dylan wins Nobel prize for Literature
Post by: Brownie on October 29, 2016, 06:35:08 PM: Yes he has Hope but he actually acknowledged the prize a few days ago so he was merely quiet about it for a few days until then. I feel rotten about thinking he was ungracious :-[ (doubt it bothered him).

I thought I'd already said what I am going to say but can't see it so, at the risk of repeating:
Leonard Cohen, when asked about Dylan's award, said "..it was like pinning a medal on Mount Everest for being the highest mountain.”. I thought that was marvellous.