Religion and Ethics Forum
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: floo on October 27, 2016, 08:59:56 AM
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Nowadays I prefer a Kindle.
For fun as a teenager I took a speed reading course and regret it. I enjoy reading, but read so fast I generally finish a book in a day, so I am always adding new ones to my Kindle.
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Kindle. I can take a whole library with me anywhere.
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Kindle, I usually read a number of books at the one time so it makes it more convenient.
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Book. I have an unused Kindle given to me for Christmas a couple of years back.
I understand the convenience of a kindle, as things are I have books in piles, usually two or three on the go, the kindle takes up less space and not have things spilled on it! However, I love books and can't see that changing in the near future.
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Books - but only as I have no more room for additions to my collection I now have a Kindle.
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I'm very proud to announce I finished my first book yesterday.
I think I'll start reading another one tomorrow.
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I'm very proud to announce I finished my first book yesterday.
I think I'll start reading another one tomorrow.
Yes, Mabel O'Donnell is one of my favourite authors also!
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Rarely read but when I do its a book.
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I once worked as a page turner at Kindle.
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I had a job in a brothel reading the runes.
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I love runes, especially with ustard.
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I think it was Olonel Ustard in the ibrary with a ead ipe.
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an ipe,an ipe my country for an ipe.
Ill get mi coat.
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Both - depending on the context. I'm trying to get proferssional books onto my Kindle, but try to retain printed books for enjoyment reading.
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of course you are Hope. ::)
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I owned a Sony Ereader and most recently a Kindle but have lost enthusiasm for them.
I prefer the feel of real books. Fortunately I have room to store loads. I tend to keep books I need for reference or ones I think I want to re read in the future. I give away books that I think are junk.
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I mostly use the Kindle app on my phone and iPad now. It's an absolute dogsend for technical computer books which tend to be a thousand pages give or take a few and it's very convenient for normal reading.
However, I do still buy physical books because I love browsing bookshops and I won't be able to do that much longer if I buy all my books online.
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I must admit, I was disappointed with the kindle because I've found many of the books I really enjoy don't go word for word in kindle.
It's disconcerting when they rephrase or shorten things.
It's a bit like the readers digest condensed versions,
it loses something.
Everyone knows the beginning of WAr of the worlds " one would have believed in the last years of the nineteenth century that this world was being watched keenly and closely by intelligences greater than man's and yet as mortal as his own; that as men busied themselves about their various concerns they were scrutinised and studied, perhaps almost as narrowly as a man with a microscope might scrutinise the transient creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water.”
― H.G. Wells, The War of the Worlds"
Well kindle may not change that one, because it's so well known but it changes other ones.
I was disappointed once I found kindle books remodel bits I find as atmospheric as that one.
I've gone back to books.
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of course you are Hope. ::)
:o
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I must admit, I was disappointed with the kindle because I've found many of the books I really enjoy don't go word for word in kindle.
It's disconcerting when they rephrase or shorten things.
It's a bit like the readers digest condensed versions,
it loses something.
Everyone knows the beginning of WAr of the worlds " one would have believed in the last years of the nineteenth century that this world was being watched keenly and closely by intelligences greater than man's and yet as mortal as his own; that as men busied themselves about their various concerns they were scrutinised and studied, perhaps almost as narrowly as a man with a microscope might scrutinise the transient creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water.”
― H.G. Wells, The War of the Worlds"
Well kindle may not change that one, because it's so well known but it changes other ones.
I was disappointed once I found kindle books remodel bits I find as atmospheric as that one.
I've gone back to books.
Out of interest, why did you include an example that Kindle didn't change?
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Out of interest, why did you include an example that Kindle didn't change?
Because it's not true.
Why would the e-version of a book be condensed? There's no space problem.
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Out of interest, why did you include an example that Kindle didn't change?
Because it's so well known even kindle don't cut it down, but for me some less well read books hold the same kind of descriptive text, which kindle copies do mess with.
I included one well known one, just to convey what I mean.
I don't like books being rephrased from the original, kindle books are like the condensed readers digest ones they do it where they think it doesn't matter.
Richard Adams- Watership-Down
And the original version of Bambi they have messed with.
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Because it's not true.
Why would the e-version of a book be condensed? There's no space problem.
I don't know, but some of the passages are changed from the original books.
Im not the only person who has found the kindle version doesn't match the original.
http://basepath.com/index-real.php?url=blogentry/2007-12-16.htm
http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/forums/threads/are-kindle-books-the-real-thing.113029/
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I don't know, but some of the passages are changed from the original books.
Im not the only person who has found the kindle version doesn't match the original.
http://basepath.com/index-real.php?url=blogentry/2007-12-16.htm
http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/forums/threads/are-kindle-books-the-real-thing.113029/
Well in your first link, the complainant was talking about missing footnotes in some samples. The word "sample" should be a clue there. In the second link, the second post refutes the premise for at least some classics.
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Because it's so well known even kindle don't cut it down, but for me some less well read books hold the same kind of descriptive text, which kindle copies do mess with.
I included one well known one, just to convey what I mean.
I don't like books being rephrased from the original, kindle books are like the condensed readers digest ones they do it where they think it doesn't matter.
Richard Adams- Watership-Down
And the original version of Bambi they have messed with.
So you illustrate a point with an example which doesn't illustrate the point?
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Yes! I have just submitted a cover to a friend of mine who is a published writer. His publisher is Amazon. He says that he wants to release kindle versions of his books but Amazon told him that they would have to be rewritten and basically abridged for kindle readers. Their logic behind this is kindle readers do not want to sit and read a long book. Now we all know that is bologna, but according to my friend, Amazon says yes! ALL kindle books are cut down and rewritten. But I'm sure you can create an unabridged version for yourself a
http://www.answers.com/Q/Are_Kindle_books_abridged
I wouldn't say they all are, but I've discovered for myself they are not always the same as a printed copy.
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Amazon say no, unless the publisher wants it.
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=oREnsIaAp-4C&pg=PT101&lpg=PT101&dq=kindle+abridged&source=bl&ots=CjRWWGGEkV&sig=vfJBNeTZb3JhrIOGvUs5PwrY_10&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjBjqqK8P_PAhULDcAKHeWzBT4Q6AEIWDAQ#v=onepage&q=kindle%20abridged&f=false
Perhaps I've just been unlucky in a few of my favorite books in that they differ very slightly.
But I'm not the only person who has felt they are not reading an original, whatever the reason.
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Roses
I love my Kindle.
Both for recreational reading and for reviewing pdf's for work. I like that you can change font size, they did tell me it would make me blind eventually :-\
But the moment I fell in love with my Kindle was when I started reading Sherlock Holmes, which are free, and which I hadn't read before. I recall an episode of QI when Fry disclosed how Conan-Doyle was fond of using the term 'ejaculated' for speech. Fore armed with this knowledged my infantile sense of humour was sated when Watson ejaculated from the first story window. 😂
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Ideally, I would prefer a real book, but the Kindle is so much more convenient, especially when you are travelling.
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I use ebooks for novels etc. but much prefer real books for more factual subjects, where I can much more easily absorb information or refer to different parts/chapters. I also find that I can research subjects much more easily that way. I suppose I'm simply old fashioned. :)
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Can't beat a proper book.
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Can't beat a proper book.
I looked it up and I find:
"The current version of the Kindle has 4 GB of memory, of which you can use 3 GB for content, which is approximately 3,500 books."
You try and carry those around with you . . . or even store them in your living room!
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As a matter of interest, have any of you seen a braille book?!!! Seven volumes = onee normal paperback.
Volumes about 13"x12"
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As a matter of interest, have any of you seen a braille book?!!! Seven volumes = onee normal paperback.
Volumes about 13"x12"
How do you find text to speech devices Susan? The one on the Kindle is fairly flat and uninspiring, but I get the impression that the technology has moved-on quite a lot recently.
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How do you find text to speech devices Susan? The one on the Kindle is fairly flat and uninspiring, but I get the impression that the technology has moved-on quite a lot recently.
I haven't really tried any of them recently. I did have an audio book from the NLB a while ago which was a synthetic voice but it was dreadful. The human voice pauses where necessary for breaths, but although the synthetic voice drops at full stops and pauses briefly at commas, it has no need of breathing so just continues! It's probably changed though, so I will have another look.
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I haven't really tried any of them recently. I did have an audio book from the NLB a while ago which was a synthetic voice but it was dreadful. The human voice pauses where necessary for breaths, but although the synthetic voice drops at full stops and pauses briefly at commas, it has no need of breathing so just continues! It's probably changed though, so I will have another look.
I think some of the A.I. systems today are capable of 'understanding' the text, so in theory ought to be capable of producing a much more human sounding voice, but I'm not aware of any really good ones that are widely available.