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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: ippy on December 31, 2016, 03:40:00 PM
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My wife and I were talking today about retirement, I have recently given up work for good and noticed that the national holidays like bank holidays etc are just like any other day, when retired, and then thinking about it, there is no compensation offered by any of the governments that would make this loss of privileged days off more bearable for the retirees.
Any ideas how we could start the ball rolling for some sort of offer?
ippy
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My wife and I were talking today about retirement, I have recently given up work for good and noticed that the national holidays like bank holidays etc are just like any other day, when retired, and then thinking about it, there is no compensation offered by any of the governments that would make this loss of privileged days off more bearable for the retirees.
Any ideas how we could start the ball rolling for some sort of offer?
ippy
Do retirees, (by which I assume pensioners, as opposed to folk who have retired before they can take their state pension), actu7ally need any additional compensation, ippy? After all, whilst it is true that they arfe no longer bringing as much income as they might have been into the home, they are already doing a lot better in terms in percentage increases than many who are still earning - and they also have a number of perks, such as Senior Railcards and bus passes; not to mention various 'pensioner discount days' in a variety of shops.
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Do retirees, (by which I assume pensioners, as opposed to folk who have retired before they can take their state pension), actu7ally need any additional compensation, ippy? After all, whilst it is true that they arfe no longer bringing as much income as they might have been into the home, they are already doing a lot better in terms in percentage increases than many who are still earning - and they also have a number of perks, such as Senior Railcards and bus passes; not to mention various 'pensioner discount days' in a variety of shops.
I see what you're saying, but there are quite a number of days like spring bank holiday etc, where we retirees are no longer able to be rewarded with a day off and as I was saying as of yet there is no sign of anything in the way of compensation and you don't hear anyone speaking about it, I suppose the government is keeping mum hoping this issue will go away.
ippy
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I see what you're saying, but there are quite a number of days like spring bank holiday etc, where we retirees are no longer able to be rewarded with a day off and as I was saying as of yet there is no sign of anything in the way of compensation and you don't hear anyone speaking about it, I suppose the government is keeping mum hoping this issue will go away.
ippy
But what would you be having a 'day off' from, ipp? Life? Haven't you experienced 40+ years' worth of them already?
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But what would you be having a 'day off' from, ipp? Life? Haven't you experienced 40+ years' worth of them already?
Well almost all of the working population are having these days off and we retirees obviously no longer are able to have a day off, why should we be losing out on the privilege just because we're retired.
Obviously we can't be rewarded with days off so perhaps a financial settlement of some kind should be considered? Only it amounts to quite a few days off during the year now days and that's a lot to lose without complaining.
ippy
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If you are in the education system most bank holidays are during the school/college/university holidays anyway. Should teachers/lecturers get compensation?
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Yes, brilliant.
Obviously all the retired, teachers, students etc should man the factories and farms at bank holidays to relieve the tedium of having all those days not working!
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My wife and I were talking today about retirement, I have recently given up work for good and noticed that the national holidays like bank holidays etc are just like any other day, when retired, and then thinking about it, there is no compensation offered by any of the governments that would make this loss of privileged days off more bearable for the retirees.
Any ideas how we could start the ball rolling for some sort of offer?
ippy
This is a joke, right?
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This is a joke, right?
No JP, are you finding it too deep a subject? I've not seen one mention of compensation for this loss of ours anywhere, yet.
ippy
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Yes, brilliant.
Obviously all the retired, teachers, students etc should man the factories and farms at bank holidays to relieve the tedium of having all those days not working!
That's all very well for you Uday, but we've just seen yet another two days respite for the workers and new years day tomorrow, what have I got as a retiree?
A bit more money taken off of our heating bills could be a start; it's about time we poor old pensioners were taken more seriously about these issues.
ippy
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Well, at least no-one is trying to replace you with an automaton :)
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That's all very well for you Uday, but we've just seen yet another two days respite for the workers and new years day tomorrow, what have I got as a retiree?
A bit more money taken off of our heating bills could be a start; it's about time we poor old pensioners were taken more seriously about these issues.
ippy
You lot are bleeding the country dry. Logan's Run has its appeal!
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Carousel - You'll Never Walk Alone
What a splendid song from a splendid film.
Wait I have my cinematic wires crossed. Retuning. Ah you are thinking more along the lines of Soylent Green.
A nice Chianti should go well with that.
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Well it's down to the library then, there's a bit of heat there, fingertips off of the gloves so that I can turn the pages of the newspapers, I can no longer afford, I only wanted a little compensation, what's so wrong about that?
ippy
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I'm trying to work out my views on this - so, thinking aloud.
I retired 5 years ago now with a backlog of 'doing nothing' that accumulated during my working life. Since retirement I've worked strenuously at 'doing nothing' and feel I've been adequately rewarded for my sterling efforts. I'll confess though, it has been tough at times: sometimes I don't get to finish breakfast until after 10am and even then I still have oodles of 'nothing' that I struggle to tackle before coffee time, and even more before lunch, when the prospective afternoon grind looms large.
My concern is that on these high days and holidays I'd have to put more effort into 'doing nothing' that I do now to justify any extra dosh: so I don't think I'll bother thanks. In any event I'm simply far too busy 'doing nothing' to tackle doing even more 'nothing' - I just don't have the time these days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Cc62oBsUeE
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No JP, are you finding it too deep a subject? I've not seen one mention of compensation for this loss of ours anywhere, yet.
ippy
I'm with Jeremy here, this has to be a joke!!!
Read a bloody book, Ippy. Take a nice long holiday abroad and see the world if you're bored...
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This is a joke, right?
I did think of posting something comparable, jeremy, but I thought I'd let ippy have a length of 'rope' to run around with. Sadly, he doesn't appear to have come up with any reasons for his idea.
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That's all very well for you Uday, but we've just seen yet another two days respite for the workers and new years day tomorrow, what have I got as a retiree?
A bit more money taken off of our heating bills could be a start; it's about time we poor old pensioners were taken more seriously about these issues.
ippy
'We poor old pensioners' have done far better than the working public over the last 6 or 7 years thanks to the triple lock pledge, ippy. Perhaps the relaxation of that for national holidays could be your compensation.
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I'm with Jeremy here, this has to be a joke!!!
Read a bloody book, Ippy. Take a nice long holiday abroad and see the world if you're bored...
I did get a copy of 'The Physics of Star Trek', Lawrence Krauss, for christmas, long overdue read on my part, I enjoy L K's good sense of humour it's always entertaining. ;)
ippy
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'We poor old pensioners' have done far better than the working public over the last 6 or 7 years thanks to the triple lock pledge, ippy. Perhaps the relaxation of that for national holidays could be your compensation.
That's beside the point Hope, they should be removing some of these days off or compensating the retired in an effort to at the very least level the playing field, for all, not just for little old harmless people like me, ;).
ippy
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I'm trying to work out my views on this - so, thinking aloud.
I retired 5 years ago now with a backlog of 'doing nothing' that accumulated during my working life. Since retirement I've worked strenuously at 'doing nothing' and feel I've been adequately rewarded for my sterling efforts. I'll confess though, it has been tough at times: sometimes I don't get to finish breakfast until after 10am and even then I still have oodles of 'nothing' that I struggle to tackle before coffee time, and even more before lunch, when the prospective afternoon grind looms large.
My concern is that on these high days and holidays I'd have to put more effort into 'doing nothing' that I do now to justify any extra dosh: so I don't think I'll bother thanks. In any event I'mh simply far too busy 'doing nothing' to tackle doing even more 'nothing' - I just don't have the time these days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Cc62oBsUeE
Your post gets my vote, I'm in a similar position to you, only app 2 years, some very good friends of mine have commented on my similar busy efforts at retiring quitely and with such abusive good frends, retaliation is necessary.
I was pleased with some of my return of abuse to these realy good friends of mine so I thought it might be worth passing some of this very logical fight back of mine on to the forum, plus an extra thank you to Hope, have a realy good new year all of you and thanks for the replies to my ramblings.
ippy
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Is this thread a joke?
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That's beside the point Hope, they should be removing some of these days off or compensating the retired in an effort to at the very least level the playing field, for all, not just for little old harmless people like me, ;).
ippy
If you want a day off from your retirement then how about on the bank holidays all the pensioners can take over for that day and run the trains etc. They'd do a better job than Southern Rail!!!
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If you want a day off from your retirement then how about on the bank holidays all the pensioners can take over for that day and run the trains etc. They'd do a better job than Southern Rail!!!
I think some of our pre-school kids could do that, Jack. ;) ;)