Religion and Ethics Forum
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Hope on January 11, 2017, 10:08:13 PM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/38580817/pregnant-model-porsche-thomas-body-shamed-for-showing-her-belly
What is society coming to when a mother-to-be shows her bump and is abused in this way. Sick!!
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I don't understand the reason for the abuse, we see pictures of many well known people showing their bumps. However abuse for all sorts of reasons and none is rife on social media; sometimes I think people take all their frustrations out on the internet. If it wasn't her it would be someone else.
Porsche is an unusual name!
(I know a very glamourous lady who is a singer, who looks like her only much older, their smiles are the same and faces similar shape.
http://www.rodstewartfanclub.com/about_rod/news/images/20100504_lorelei_mbroom.jpg )
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I think that it is beautiful photograph of a contented and confident young woman, proud of her fecundity.
There appears to have been the development of a tranche of society (for want of a better term) who openly express their dissatisfaction with their own lives by attacking other people. Such people may resent the success of others, they may lack the capabilities to achieve what they see others achieve and fuel their resentment with jealousy. They find it easier to be destructive than constructive and they have, through social media, the opportunity to maximise their bile while being totally anonymous. Such people voted for Trump.
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There hasn't been a 'development', we just hear it more. Social media creates an echo chamber for this type of opinion. It's also not just people who voted for Trump. Only yesterday, I read a comment that said ' And I will ask again would anyone be upset if all of the Trump family heads were displayed on spikes'.
It's very easy to indulge in 'othering' people you disagree with.
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I'm a bit odd here I think (not for the first time I hear you cry).
I have no problem with this picture or the bump or anything.
But something I do find offensive is when a pregnant woman is wearing clothes that aren't quite big enough to cover the bump and exposes just part of the bump - that for some reason I find vulgar. I know it makes no sense and it is totally my problem.
HH as usual posts with sense and insight.
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I'm a bit odd here I think (not for the first time I hear you cry).
I have no problem with this picture or the bump or anything.
Not aware that anyone here has a problem with the picture or the bump, Trent. Rather, it is the attitude shown to the picture by some folk - as outlined in the article.
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Not aware that anyone here has a problem with the picture or the bump, Trent. Rather, it is the attitude shown to the picture by some folk - as outlined in the article.
why have you edited Trent's post to remove the point he made and then misrepresented what he was saying?
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why have you edited Trent's post to remove the point he made and then misrepresented what he was saying?
Because, in my view, he was making 2 points. I was responding to the first of them.
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Because, in my view, he was making 2 points. I was responding to the first of them.
Pity you were (a) wrong and (b) ended up misrepresenting him then.
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Oh for heavens sakes Hope did not misrepresent him and I read the same posts as you.
You are pouncing NS, just for the sake of it and it is so obvious. I thought that earlier but didn't want to say anything at the time, hoping it would just pass.
You are a mod for goodness sake, supposed to be better than that. Fair minded, etc, regardless of personal dislikes.
I'm going to have a break. CU all later.
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Oh for heavens sakes Hope did not misrepresent him and I read the same posts as you.
You are pouncing NS, just for the sake of it and it is so obvious. I thought that earlier but didn't want to say anything at the time, hoping it would just pass.
You are a mod for goodness sake, supposed to be better than that. Fair minded, etc, regardless of personal dislikes.
I'm going to have a break. CU all later.
Does Trent's post say anyone here has a problem with the image? No. Hope represents him as saying that. It's a misrepresentation.
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Just to be clear (although I thought I had been) when I posted about not having a problem with the bump etc., was a reference to the original article in the link where some had complained the bump was too big, too black or whatever.
I did not mean to imply, nor do I think I did imply that anyone here objected to the bump. Looking at my post it could perhaps have been in a slightly better order - but when I read it back it still looks pretty clear to me.
I was actually trying to make the more important point that I am affected by a slightly different matter, the gap between pants and top, but fully realise that is my issue as opposed to a pregnant woman's and if other people tried to think in that way then this whole awful experience the woman went through would have been avoided.
That's really all there was to it.
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Trent was making a comment about people's dress sense - nothing more.
How many times have you (any of you) seen someone and said something like "I wouldn't be seen dead wearing that" or "Didn't he/she look in a mirror before leaving home?"
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A lot of it is cost. There's no point buying bigger clothes if it's only going to be for a couple of months and not all women fancy wearing the other half's Guns n Roses t shirts.
I always think the poor bump looks cold.
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Porsche is an unusual name!
There are loads of cars called Porsche, so it's not that unusual.
However, I expect that one of her parents saw the Merchant of Venice but didn't think to check the spelling.
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There hasn't been a 'development', we just hear it more. Social media creates an echo chamber for this type of opinion. It's also not just people who voted for Trump. Only yesterday, I read a comment that said ' And I will ask again would anyone be upset if all of the Trump family heads were displayed on spikes'.
It's very easy to indulge in 'othering' people you disagree with.
It's the Great Internet Fuckwad Theory
http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/325699-greater-internet-fuckwad-theory
Normal person + anonymity + audience = fuckwad.
Plus, if say one person in a hundred is a complete arsehole, then with only 10,000 people viewing your post there are 100 arseholes which can translate to a lot of negativity.
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Trent was making a comment about people's dress sense - nothing more.
Actually, he was making a point about his own reaction to people's dress sense. He has a problem with some of it but he makes it clear that it is his problem, not a problem for the person with the dress sense he has a problem with.