Religion and Ethics Forum
General Category => Literature, Music, Art & Entertainment => Topic started by: SqueakyVoice on January 31, 2017, 11:07:20 AM
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https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2017/jan/30/peter-capaldi-leaving-doctor-who
Since there's another series and Christmas special before Capaldi leaves it seems too early to start assessing his Doctor, but does anyone have an early favourite to replace him?
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Looking at the market, of total bets 40% is for Maisie Williams, 20% for each of David Harewood, Benedict Cumberbatch, and Katie Hopkins. So I'm guessing that's a tenner and three fivers.
I think they need to try and change it into a series with less involvement in its own history, and move for a complete change. Therefore I would be tempted to have a woman actor. Tilda Swinton, perhaps
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I'd just read that Tilda Swinton is a possible.
My first thought was Idris Elba but the the poor man seems to be linked with every iconic role these days.
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Since the series must look to the Whovian community if it wants to continue, the next regeneration will be both British and male. I hope he has the same 'otherness' as Capaldi's Doctor - in my opinion, the best since 'classic' Who.
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Idris Elba is a possible then. I like the idea of a doctor with a bit of menace.
Benedict Cumberbatch would be a good choice were it not for his association with Sherlock. He managed to make a CGI dragon sexy.
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It needn't be an 'unknown.'. After all, Davison and Eccleston, not to mention Tennant and Capaldim were famous for playing other roles in top TV series.
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No, but I don't see how Cumberbatch could not be Sherlock being Doctor Who.
I saw Peter Capaldi as the Angel Islington in Neverwhere. He was very otherworldly in that, and I'm trying to think of anything I've seen that's similar.
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In no particular order I wouldn't mind if any of the following get the nod.
Blokes,
Ewan Bremner
Robert Sheehan
Chiwetel Ejiofor
Rhys Ifans
James Nesbitt
Eddie Izzard
Babes,
Tilda Swinton
Kate Beckinsale
Amanda Abbington
Billie Piper
Michaela Coel
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Idris Elba is a possible then. I like the idea of a doctor with a bit of menace.
Benedict Cumberbatch would be a good choice were it not for his association with Sherlock. He managed to make a CGI dragon sexy.
Cumberbatch will not be the next doctor. He is too much in demand for film roles for his schedule to allow making a TV series of the size of Doctor Who. This is the main reason why we don't get much Sherlock - it's almost impossible to get the availability of the actors.
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If I had to pick, it would be Simon Pegg.
David Harewood might make a good one.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0362873/
Not so keen on a woman Doctor, definately not a "babe"
In my view it's a character role, there are women strong enough to carry it off, but it's such a change with the relationship with other characters ( rapport), it would be a difficult one to pull off.
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A female Dr Who?
Judi Dench or Emma Thompson? Celia Imrie or Imelda Staunton?
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If I had to pick, it would be Simon Pegg.
David Harewood might make a good one.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0362873/
Not so keen on a woman Doctor, definately not a "babe"
In my view it's a character role, there are women strong enough to carry it off, but it's such a change with the relationship with other characters ( rapport), it would be a difficult one to pull off.
What other characters ? Why would it be difficult to pull off since it is a character role?
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What other characters ? Why would it be difficult to pull off since it is a character role?
Well, other characters like the assistant and missy.
There is a rapport there, that I feel you would lose if they cast Doctor Who as a woman.
The worst possible scenario would be to cast Dr Who as a lesbian.
Any other character is fine, and we have already had lesbians on there anyway. ( Madame Vastra)
But not the doctor.
Not that I have anything against lesbians or lesbians parts, but it would spoil what is a childhood favorite for me.
Since it has come back with Christopher Eccleston you have only just got the admission in the story that the doctor could become attracted to his assistants. It was started with Rose and taken further with River Song, then you have the potential of interaction and relationship of the master and now Missy with the doctor.
To make Dr Who a women would not be in line with the story so far as I see it , and I would see it as tokenism.
The Doctor being black doesn't bother me at all, it might be an interesting difference, as was Martha Jones as his assistant.
It brings up different perspectives.
I'd rather they kept the doctor ATM as a male, I feel a woman at this time would chop off too many potential stories.
Also Stephen Moffet is also leaving and there is going to be a new doctor as well, I feel the doctor being a woman would be too much of a change ATM .
Just my opinion.
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I find it interesting all this talk of "should the doctor be a woman" or "should James Bond be black (or a woman)". My younger brother always resented having to wear my cast off clothes when we were children, no matter how good they were. I'm surprised that female and black actors aren 't resentful of the idea of giving them cast off white male roles. Instead of throwing them the crumb of "you can be the next doctor" write more good strong female characters.
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I don't get this issue of changing the sex of the Dr. Why for goodness sake?
And why stop there. The next adaptation of David Copperfield (which I'm sure will be along soon enough) should have a female lead.
And what about Jane Austen? Lets gender swap her work too. It's all bollocks.
The answer as others have pointed out is to have new characters created for females, gays, racial minorities, etc. that are strong and well written. People will watch.
People watched 'Happy Valley' because of the well-written female parts. And Sarah Lancashires' amazing acting.
Simple as that.
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I don't get this issue of changing the sex of the Dr. Why for goodness sake?
And why stop there. The next adaptation of David Copperfield (which I'm sure will be along soon enough) should have a female lead.
And what about Jane Austen? Lets gender swap her work too. It's all bollocks.
The answer as others have pointed out is to have new characters created for females, gays, racial minorities, etc. that are strong and well written. People will watch.
People watched 'Happy Valley' because of the well-written female parts. And Sarah Lancashires' amazing acting.
Simple as that.
id just like it to be known that I love female parts!
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Well, other characters like the assistant and missy.
There is a rapport there, that I feel you would lose if they cast Doctor Who as a woman.
The worst possible scenario would be to cast Dr Who as a lesbian.
Any other character is fine, and we have already had lesbians on there anyway. ( Madame Vastra)
But not the doctor.
Not that I have anything against lesbians or lesbians parts, but it would spoil what is a childhood favorite for me.
Since it has come back with Christopher Eccleston you have only just got the admission in the story that the doctor could become attracted to his assistants. It was started with Rose and taken further with River Song, then you have the potential of interaction and relationship of the master and now Missy with the doctor.
To make Dr Who a women would not be in line with the story so far as I see it , and I would see it as tokenism.
The Doctor being black doesn't bother me at all, it might be an interesting difference, as was Martha Jones as his assistant.
It brings up different perspectives.
I'd rather they kept the doctor ATM as a male, I feel a woman at this time would chop off too many potential stories.
Also Stephen Moffet is also leaving and there is going to be a new doctor as well, I feel the doctor being a woman would be too much of a change ATM .
Just my opinion.
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Bloody Hell - the series is FICTION!
It can be written as anything and it has no basis in reality - you want a female Doctor - then get the scriptwriters nto write in a male companion!
It is not like we are trying to rewrite the Bible or the Koran!
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Sue Perkins.
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Sue Perkins.
Apparently, Sue Perkins was about to go on stage when she told her manager that she felt a little funny.
Her manager said it would make a massive change from her usual act of laughing at her own utterances like they were the finest witticisms since Ocsar Wilde.
Sue Perkins now has a new manager.
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Bloody Hell - the series is FICTION!
It can be written as anything and it has no basis in reality - you want a female Doctor - then get the scriptwriters nto write in a male companion!
That would still change the dynamic between the two characters. Sometimes when you change things in a TV show - fiction or not - it stops working. Rose thinks the male- female relationship between the Doctor and his assistant is something that can't be changed without damaging the show. She's perfectly entitled to think that without people jumping down her throat.
I don't know if Rose is right, but if you change the Doctor's gender, you have effectively rewritten the character and you are changing the dynamic between him/her and the assistant. You will have a different show. That might be good or it might be bad but if you are making radical changes to a character, why not instead write a new character? Have something completely fresh.
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Apparently, Sue Perkins was about to go on stage when she told her manager that she felt a little funny.
Her manager said it would make a massive change from her usual act of laughing at her own utterances like they were the finest witticisms since Ocsar Wilde.
Sue Perkins now has a new manager.
Applaud button deployed. What a wonderful refreshing new take on a classic old joke.
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A female Dr Who?
Judi Dench or Emma Thompson? Celia Imrie or Imelda Staunton?
You have to remember that there is a lot of running in the show. A lot. That rules out the more elderly and hard of moving quite quickly!
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http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15093959.Scots_actress_Tilda_Swinton_tipped_to_become_new_Doctor_Who/
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Applaud button deployed. What a wonderful refreshing new take on a classic old joke.
You shouild know - you've used it enough times!