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Title: Disney's first gay character
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 02, 2017, 02:52:26 PM
In some ways surprised it took so long, but you can't really blame him, Gaston is a gorgeous big hunk of man meat



http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/39125727/beauty-and-the-beast-to-feature-disneys-first-gay-character-and-love-scene
Title: Re: Disney's first gay character
Post by: Sebastian Toe on March 02, 2017, 04:45:51 PM
In some ways surprised it took so long, but you can't really blame him, Gaston is a gorgeous big hunk of man meat



http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/39125727/beauty-and-the-beast-to-feature-disneys-first-gay-character-and-love-scene
Oaken?
Title: Re: Disney's first gay character
Post by: Rhiannon on March 02, 2017, 07:57:06 PM
This is a Disney movie. Their attitude to women and marriage is driven largely by the need to keep conservative Americans happy. This is groundbreaking.
Title: Re: Disney's first gay character
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 06, 2017, 11:33:32 AM
Disagree, this is a company that was boycotted for 8 years by the Southern Baptists, who have 16 million members, because of its support for gay rights amongst other things .
Title: Re: Disney's first gay character
Post by: Rhiannon on March 06, 2017, 01:38:25 PM
Whatever. I loathe Disney.
Title: Re: Disney's first gay character
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 06, 2017, 01:40:29 PM
Whatever. I loathe Disney.
yep, don't let facts get in the way of that opinion.
Title: Re: Disney's first gay character
Post by: Rhiannon on March 06, 2017, 01:52:19 PM
yep, don't let facts get in the way of that opinion.

I've had to negotiate the demoralising, stereotypical, repulsive money-sucking machine that is the Disney Princess juggernaut with my daughters. Transparent nylon frocks that look more at home in the Ann Summers catalogue? Heels for toddlers? Make-up tips for six year olds 'just add some pretty lip gloss'? Empowering messages that even an ugly sister can get a bloke so long as he's fat and not especially attractive? Ah, the lovely world of Disney.

Don't lecture me about 'facts'.
Title: Re: Disney's first gay character
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 06, 2017, 02:08:55 PM
I've had to negotiate the demoralising, stereotypical, repulsive money-sucking machine that is the Disney Princess juggernaut with my daughters. Transparent nylon frocks that look more at home in the Ann Summers catalogue? Heels for toddlers? Make-up tips for six year olds 'just add some pretty lip gloss'? Empowering messages that even an ugly sister can get a bloke so long as he's fat and not especially attractive? Ah, the lovely world of Disney.

Don't lecture me about 'facts'.

Which all amounts to an ad hominem. You are factually wrong that Disney  be controlled in its attitude to LGBT+, the subject of the discussion, because of being in thrall to 'conservative Americans'.
Title: Re: Disney's first gay character
Post by: Rhiannon on March 06, 2017, 03:00:30 PM
Do you think I give a shit? No, actually.

I'm sorry but decent conversation is increasingly becoming stifled on this forum. Pedantry isn't debate. This isn't the first potentially interesting thread I've stopped bothering with and I doubt it'll be the last. If I bother posting at all.
Title: Re: Disney's first gay character
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 06, 2017, 03:07:20 PM
Do you think I give a shit? No, actually.

I'm sorry but decent conversation is increasingly becoming stifled on this forum. Pedantry isn't debate. This isn't the first potentially interesting thread I've stopped bothering with and I doubt it'll be the last. If I bother posting at all.

Facts on a subject as opposed to fallacies isn't pedantry.