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Title: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 19, 2017, 11:21:33 PM
Is well ahead currently on the ATP race race rankings. If he were to finish No1 this year, how big an achievement  would that be given
his age?
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Sebastian Toe on March 20, 2017, 01:11:54 AM
Is well ahead currently on the ATP race race rankings.
What are they?
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 20, 2017, 01:18:20 AM
What are they?


Such as this this

http://live-tennis.eu/en/atp-race
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Sebastian Toe on March 20, 2017, 02:09:39 AM

Such as this this

http://live-tennis.eu/en/atp-race
Ah, so he is well ahead in the race to the Atp tour finals qualification.
He is still a bit behind in the tour ranking list, though he did jump four places to 6th after his win.
If he did top that at the end of the year it would indeed be some achievement.

Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: SusanDoris on March 20, 2017, 01:12:36 PM
since the present system came into operation, who has been the oldest male holder of the No. 1 position?
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 20, 2017, 01:22:02 PM
since the present system came into operation, who has been the oldest male holder of the No. 1 position?

Agassi at 33
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 20, 2017, 01:27:51 PM
Ah, so he is well ahead in the race to the Atp tour finals qualification.
He is still a bit behind in the tour ranking list, though he did jump four places to 6th after his win.
If he did top that at the end of the year it would indeed be some achievement.
Also he has no points to defend in the second half of the year as he was out for 6 months. A win in Miami where neither Murray or Djokovic play due to injury would put him some distance ahead.
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: SusanDoris on March 20, 2017, 01:45:20 PM
Thank you, NS.
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on April 02, 2017, 10:44:27 PM
And he duly wins Miami, but is suggesting he won't play again till the French. Brave and yet sensible decision, given the effect clay courts can have.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/39474913
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Jack Knave on April 03, 2017, 12:10:35 AM
Not another celeb or has died!!! They just keep on falling.......
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 16, 2017, 09:40:01 AM
And has decided not to play the French. This makes the end of year No 1 quite unlikely, and given Nadal's so far imperious clay court season, you have to think that he is currently most likely.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/39930092
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 22, 2017, 03:29:39 PM
Oddly in the week that the youngest winner of a Masters tournament in 10 years happens, we have a top 5 in the rankings over 30.
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 07, 2017, 01:24:38 PM

And Nadal's form continues. Possible chance that by end of Wimbledon, he will be at No.1.

Big win for Thiem though and for Djokivic to lose 3rd set 6-0, you have to think Agassi has his work cut out

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/40186734
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 09, 2017, 07:39:03 PM
And Nadal wins semi final with a total loss of 29 games in 6 matches, quite extraordinary
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 11, 2017, 04:53:30 PM
And that was quite extraordinary, La Decima and looked good enough for another 10
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 19, 2017, 05:38:54 PM
Shapovalov looking a bit tasty on grass
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 25, 2017, 02:36:50 PM
And Federer wins in Halle! Wmbldn as Harry Carpenter used to call it looking tasty
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 25, 2017, 05:08:23 PM
And a great final at Queens with Lopez beating Cilic. 2 winners at 35 today.
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on August 14, 2017, 02:24:34 AM
So Zverev wins his 2nd  Masters beating Federer who was apparently looking as if carrying an injury. If so, I would suspect he may take some recovery time which would mean Nadal returns to number one next week. But one suspects that this may well be a proper changing of the guard. Even without having progressed to the final of a slam, Zverev is got to be a near favourite for the US Open. If Federer's injury is at all serious and Nadal doesn't perform well for the rest of the season, we could see Zverev at number 1 at the end of the season.
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on August 14, 2017, 08:05:24 PM
And Federer has indeed pulled out. So Nadal will be back at No 1
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on August 19, 2017, 10:19:40 AM
Nadal unable to beat Kyrgios though and so we have a Masters tournament with none of the 'Big Four' in the semi finals. It must be well over 10 years since that happened. However, despite Kyrgios' win it still isn't a sufeit of youngsters with both Isner and Ferrer in their 30s.


ETA Apparently it wasn't that long ago, Paris 2012, which was Ferrer's only Masters win. If he were to repeat this it would be another in thus strange season of older, over 30,  and younger, under 22 winners.

It could well be that the US Open has 5-7 of the top ten not playing.
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on August 26, 2017, 08:24:02 PM
Well now that Murray has pulled out of the US Open that is 5 of the top 11 out. Can't remember the last time that happened


Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on August 30, 2017, 08:03:47 PM
Good win by Dimitrov, he and Thiem look like the value on the odds.
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: SusanDoris on August 31, 2017, 06:24:00 AM
Did Dimitrov beat Federer? I haven't heard whether Federer is through.
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on August 31, 2017, 06:45:57 AM
Did Dimitrov beat Federer? I haven't heard whether Federer is through.
No, Federer won his first round match against Tiafoe on Tuesday in five sets.

And Zverev"s defeat makes Dimitrov's odds tumble. He is in the Federer/Nadal half of the draw though, as is Thiem making it packed. Other half looking a bit bereft at moment with Cilic the stand out but given his injury issues since Wimbledon, it's a big ask.

Interesting match up next round between Edmund and Shapovalov
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: SusanDoris on August 31, 2017, 08:05:34 AM
Thank you, NS.
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on August 31, 2017, 09:24:25 PM
And for all Dimitrov looking good - out he goes to Rublev who may be a real emerging talent but who knows Slams still seem to be an 'old' persons game.
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on August 31, 2017, 09:53:18 PM
Federer drops second set to Youzhny. Apparently the first time he has dropped a set on a hard court to Youzhny for 17 years!  And maybe going 2-1 down. I suspect the back is still dodgy but now Nadal looking better and better
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on September 01, 2017, 07:48:02 PM
And now Cilic is out leaving Isner as the highest ranked player in that half of the draw. None of those left have ever reached the final, and I am not sure if any of them have reached a semi final of a slam. Everyone must be thinking that it's a huge chance for them.
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on September 02, 2017, 11:42:03 AM
And Isner knocked out last night too. Could Shapovalov make the final?
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on September 03, 2017, 08:17:07 PM
To which the answer is No! Valiant effort but Carreno Busta,  Anderson looking good.
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on September 05, 2017, 07:31:09 AM
And the too half of the men's draw has Nadal v Rublev and Federer v Del Potro. Three former champions and a teenager. Extraordinary fight back from Del Potro
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on September 07, 2017, 07:03:15 AM
So Federer is out, the US Open again misses a Nadal v Federer match up, Spain will have both Men and Women's No.1 ranked players and all the women semi finalists are USican with Venus Williams there at 37. Intriguing tournament but with Murray out for the rest of the year the promoters will be hoping there are no injuries to Federer and Nadal.
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on October 16, 2017, 12:49:15 PM
Excellent match from Federer yesterday though while he maintains his record of beating Nadal in each match they played this year you suspect that wouldn't have been the case on clay. Looks like Nadal for the year end No1 with the big question being can he win the year end championship for the first time. It must be one of his best chances with no Djokovic and Murray, both more successful indoors.


Wasn't sure if he was the older winner of a Masters series since Ken Rosewall was still winning tournaments older than Federer is now but turns out he is and by nearly 2 years.
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on October 29, 2017, 05:38:01 PM
And Federer wins in Basel to close the gap. You suspect though that it needs either an injury or very bad performance from Nadal in Paris to set this up. The tournament victory takes Federer past Lendl for tournament wins in the Open Era behind only Connors.
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on October 30, 2017, 12:37:48 PM
So it's Federer that pulls out of Paris, leaving Nadal almost certain to be year end Number 1.
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on November 01, 2017, 07:32:57 PM
And with his win over Chung, Nadal is year end No 1.
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Sebastian Toe on November 02, 2017, 12:22:09 AM
And with his win over Chung, Nadal is year end No 1.
Who'd have thunk it?
Oh, you did!
👟
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on November 03, 2017, 01:33:48 PM
And Nadal pulls out in Paris. I imagine the year end final sponsors are offering prayers. A tournament without the world Number 1, without Djokovic, Murray, Wawrinka will be looking to Federer to keep the people satisfied.
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on November 04, 2017, 08:43:19 AM
And so the semifinals in Paris are Krajinovic v Isner and Benneteau v Sock. I would be interested what odds you could have got on that at the start of the tournament even in this odd season. Isner would seem to be the most likely here, having reached the final in Paris last year and that would mean he would qualify for the year end finals. But what a story it would be for either Krajinovic or Benneteau to win having been ranked so low at the start of the week.
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on November 12, 2017, 09:28:18 AM
So Hyeon Chung wins the inaugural Next Generation Champioships, which with the success of Alexander Zverev was without it's most obvious winner. With the use of first to 4 games in a set it probably freaked out the purists but the innovation seemed to have worked well. It will be interesting to see how the participants progress next year.



Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on November 14, 2017, 05:34:15 AM
Nadal pulls out of the year end championships after losing the first match. You have to suspect that this was one of his better chances, if he had been fit, yo win of and that it will never be as good again. That said it's been a fantastic and extraordinary year for him.
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on November 17, 2017, 07:07:12 AM
A topsy turvy match between Sock and Zverev in a topsy turvy year means that Wawrinka will start next year ranked 9. This leads to a last 16 if seedings play out and no injuries at the AU's Open with Wawrinka, Djokovic, Murray and Del Potro all there to meet top 8 players. I wonder what the odds would have been for a Sock v Djokovic last 16 match with Djokovic being seeded to lose a year ago.


If Federer goes on to win the tournament he would only be 140 points behind Nadal in the rankings. Now, fair enough, he has a lot of early year points to defend but it could be that he sneaks to Number 1 early next year. If Nadal's injury isn't healed for the Aus Open, Federer getting to final would take him to number 1.
Title: Re: Roger Federer
Post by: Nearly Sane on November 19, 2017, 10:36:47 AM
So looks like Nadal will remain No1 for some time. Federer's defeat by Goffin and the loading of his points at the start of the year means unless Nadal gets injured for the clay court season or Federer plays the clay court season Nadal likely to remain till at least the French.


Odds on Goffin v Dimitrov at the start of the year for the years end championship must have been high.