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General Category => Politics & Current Affairs => Topic started by: Walt Zingmatilder on April 06, 2017, 03:15:15 PM

Title: Another one bites the dust
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on April 06, 2017, 03:15:15 PM: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-39513743

Mark Reckless to sit on the Tory Group in the Welsh Assembly.
Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: floo on April 06, 2017, 03:20:56 PM: The more who realise UKIP is not worthy supporting, the merrier, imo.
Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: Jack Knave on April 06, 2017, 08:00:59 PM: Though UKIP don't lose out as it is a PR system and so Reckless will be replaced by another UKIPper.
Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: Gordon on April 06, 2017, 08:11:00 PM: Quote from: Jack Knave on April 06, 2017, 08:00:59 PM
Though UKIP don't lose out as it is a PR system and so Reckless will be replaced by another UKIPper.

Even so it is one less UKIPper, which is an encouraging trend.

Nice to see Nigel make an arse of himself, again, in his day-job performance.
Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: Nearly Sane on April 06, 2017, 10:06:39 PM: Quote from: Jack Knave on April 06, 2017, 08:00:59 PM
Though UKIP don't lose out as it is a PR system and so Reckless will be replaced by another UKIPper.

He isn't resigning so not true
Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: Jack Knave on April 07, 2017, 06:53:09 PM: Quote from: Nearly Sane on April 06, 2017, 10:06:39 PM
He isn't resigning so not true
What part of PR didn't you understand? It's based on percentages of votes and the party list.
Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: Gordon on April 07, 2017, 07:07:57 PM: Quote from: Jack Knave on April 07, 2017, 06:53:09 PM
What part of PR didn't you understand? It's based on percentages of votes and the party list.

He isn't resigning his seat though: he'll remain 'in-post' but as an independent.
Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: Jack Knave on April 07, 2017, 07:24:04 PM: Quote from: Gordon on April 07, 2017, 07:07:57 PM
He isn't resigning his seat though: he'll remain 'in-post' but as an independent.
So the Welsh use FPTP do they?
Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: jeremyp on April 07, 2017, 07:40:32 PM: Quote from: Jack Knave on April 07, 2017, 06:53:09 PM
What part of PR didn't you understand? It's based on percentages of votes and the party list.
Which part of "they aren't going to put new MPs in mid term" do you not understand?
Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: Gordon on April 07, 2017, 07:40:57 PM: Quote from: Jack Knave on April 07, 2017, 07:24:04 PM
So the Welsh use FPTP do they?

As far as I can see he retains his AM status and that it is just his party affiliation that has changed: seems like a mess though.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-39521122
Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: jeremyp on April 07, 2017, 07:51:49 PM: Quote from: Gordon on April 07, 2017, 07:40:57 PM
As far as I can see he retains his AM status and that it is just his party affiliation that has changed: seems like a mess though.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-39521122
From that story it seems he will not be allowed to join the Tory group, but you are right about the confusion.

Even though Jack is factually wrong about bringing in new AMs to fix the proportionality, I think he does have a point. The Welsh Assembly no longer reflects what the people voted for.
Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: Jack Knave on April 10, 2017, 04:55:32 PM: So what is being said here is that a group of people could get together, who are from a party that isn't going to get many votes, and join one that will and then jump ship to the unpopular party. Well that sounds fair!!!