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General Category => Politics & Current Affairs => Topic started by: ad_orientem on April 08, 2017, 12:06:47 PM

Title: Terrorist attack in Stockholm
Post by: ad_orientem on April 08, 2017, 12:06:47 PM
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39536174

A bit close to home for me. Maybe it's time the Swedish government woke up. Thankfully here in Finland we haven't been so lax with our immigration policy.
Title: Re: Terrorist attack in Stockholm
Post by: ad_orientem on April 08, 2017, 07:44:45 PM
I'm surprised no one's in the slightest bit interested. Oh well!
Title: Re: Terrorist attack in Stockholm
Post by: Rhiannon on April 08, 2017, 07:55:50 PM
Maybe because immigration has nothing to do with this attack?
Title: Re: Terrorist attack in Stockholm
Post by: ad_orientem on April 08, 2017, 08:16:00 PM
Maybe because immigration has nothing to do with this attack?

No? Explain.
Title: Re: Terrorist attack in Stockholm
Post by: Rhiannon on April 08, 2017, 08:21:30 PM
It isn't clear what the status of the attacker is. Even then I don't see any terror attacks that are about immigration. Do you?
Title: Re: Terrorist attack in Stockholm
Post by: ad_orientem on April 08, 2017, 08:27:25 PM
Yes. The more you let in the bigger the chance of letting in an extremist. Sweden let in the most. It was the first Nordic country to be hit. No surprise.
Title: Re: Terrorist attack in Stockholm
Post by: Rhiannon on April 08, 2017, 08:31:09 PM
Anders Breivik? Mind you. you could argue that what he did was about immigration.
Title: Re: Terrorist attack in Stockholm
Post by: Nearly Sane on April 08, 2017, 09:29:55 PM
Doffing my hat to Rhiannon, and here are some numbers


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39540371
Title: Re: Terrorist attack in Stockholm
Post by: ad_orientem on April 08, 2017, 09:56:05 PM
Anders Breivik? Mind you. you could argue that what he did was about immigration.

And the denial starts. In an hundred years there will be no Swedes left.
Title: Re: Terrorist attack in Stockholm
Post by: Nearly Sane on April 08, 2017, 09:57:45 PM
And the denial starts. In an hundred years there will be no Swedes left.
yep,  your denial. By evading the point you appear to support Breivik.
Title: Re: Terrorist attack in Stockholm
Post by: Robbie on April 08, 2017, 10:05:47 PM
And the denial starts. In an hundred years there will be no Swedes left.

Even in my allotment?

We've had terrorist attacks here not carried out by immigrants. Same in the USA. All too easy to blame foreigners but most terrorists are home grown and a lot of them are loners.
Title: Re: Terrorist attack in Stockholm
Post by: ad_orientem on April 08, 2017, 10:16:19 PM
yep,  your denial. By evading the point you appear to support Breivik.

Not at all. Swedes had the most lax immigration policy. Humanitarian it was said. What they did was let in people hostile to Europe. Now the worst happened. As I said, at this rate there will be no Swedes. Wiping out Jews is bad, but not Swedes it seems. Must have something to do with the blue eyes and blonde hair: inhetently bad.
Title: Re: Terrorist attack in Stockholm
Post by: Nearly Sane on April 08, 2017, 10:24:20 PM
Not at all. Swedes had the most lax immigration policy. Humanitarian it was said. What they did was let in people hostile to Europe. Now the worst happened. As I said, at this rate there will be no Swedes. Wiping out Jews is bad, then so is Swedes. Must have something to do with the blue eyes and blonde hair: inhetently bad.
and again your evasion appears to support Breivik.
Title: Re: Terrorist attack in Stockholm
Post by: ad_orientem on April 08, 2017, 10:41:51 PM
Maybe because immigration has nothing to do with this attack?

Then you must be as thick as pig's shit.
Title: Re: Terrorist attack in Stockholm
Post by: ad_orientem on April 08, 2017, 10:46:04 PM
and again your evasion appears to support Breivik.

What evasion? Fact: Sweden's lax immigration policy led to a terrorist attack on Swedish soil. Not only that, so many immagrants they let in there will no longer be Swedish people to protect Sweden from such people.
Title: Re: Terrorist attack in Stockholm
Post by: Nearly Sane on April 08, 2017, 10:47:56 PM
What evasion? Fact: Sweden's lax immigration policy led to a terrorist attack on Swedish soil. Not only that, so many immagrants they let in there will no longer be Swedish people to protect Sweden from such people.
your evasion about Breivik bring a terrorist. Your implied and stated racism. 'Swedish soil'? All blood and soil for people like you, isn't it? Pissing on Christ as ever.
Title: Re: Terrorist attack in Stockholm
Post by: Robbie on April 08, 2017, 11:04:10 PM
ad-o, the Stockholm terrorist was originally from Uzbekistan but is that really relevant?
The recent terrorist attack here in Westminster, London, was from Kent. He was a loner. His poor mother is distraught about it.

Extremists come in all shapes and forms, vast majority of immigrants would never do something like that, they like being where they are now.

Wonder how you would feel if the Stockholm killer was Swedish.  As many above have said, Anders Breivik was no immigrant.
Title: Re: Terrorist attack in Stockholm
Post by: ad_orientem on April 09, 2017, 05:32:51 AM
Kick them all out, I say, every last one.
Title: Re: Terrorist attack in Stockholm
Post by: Robbie on April 09, 2017, 07:07:42 AM
What on earth do you mean?  Or are you being deliberately provocative?

You've evaded the questions people have asked (including mine post before your last one);  again, what would you say if the Stockholm terrorist was Swedish born?  Immigration has little to do with terrorism, look at the ones here in theUK or in the USA.

Then there is Anders Breivik......
Title: Re: Terrorist attack in Stockholm
Post by: torridon on April 09, 2017, 08:04:37 AM
Kick them all out, I say, every last one.

Was this the attitude of Jesus to the Roman occupiers ?
Title: Re: Terrorist attack in Stockholm
Post by: Harrowby Hall on April 09, 2017, 08:16:39 AM
Kick them all out, I say, every last one.

Just for the record, so that we all know where we stand in this discussion, what are your precise links to:

(a)   the United Kingdom

(b)   Finland?
Title: Re: Terrorist attack in Stockholm
Post by: ad_orientem on April 09, 2017, 08:26:41 AM
Just for the record, so that we all know where we stand in this discussion, what are your precise links to:

(a)   the United Kingdom

(b)   Finland?

A. I was born there

B. Where I now live and where my mum and ancestors were born.
Title: Re: Terrorist attack in Stockholm
Post by: trippymonkey on April 09, 2017, 08:56:16 AM
It's the filthy scum virus that was actually BORN here in the UK, that might be our most dangerous lot, maybe ??

Nick
Title: Re: Terrorist attack in Stockholm
Post by: Rhiannon on April 09, 2017, 01:54:34 PM
Wiping out Jews is bad, but not Swedes it seems. Must have something to do with the blue eyes and blonde hair: inhetently bad.

Well nobody is going to carry out a Holocaust of the Swedes. So what is it that you are worried about? Blue eyed, blonde-haired people having kids with brown-eyed, olive-skinned people?
Title: Re: Terrorist attack in Stockholm
Post by: Bubbles on April 09, 2017, 02:26:17 PM
It's the filthy scum virus that was actually BORN here in the UK, that might be our most dangerous lot, maybe ??

Nick

No he was an immigrant, about to have been deported.

Stockholm attack suspect was refused residency
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39545642
Title: Re: Terrorist attack in Stockholm
Post by: JP on April 09, 2017, 02:52:40 PM
I'm surprised no one's in the slightest bit interested. Oh well!

Nobody cares. As you well know. No acknowledgement of what the problem might be and anyone who says otherwise is a racist.

The BBC piece, all's fine, deaths from terrorism are well down and really, both ETA and the IRA are the biggest killers. The focus for both of these organisations was pretty narrow and their aims were clearly stated, well known and attacks were carried out by people with same ideology.

Can anyone enlarge on what the aims and objectives of people behind the Spain, France, Belgium, Germany, UK and Sweden terror attacks. For what reason do they bomb shoot and maim, what are their goals, their ideology?


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Title: Re: Terrorist attack in Stockholm
Post by: Rhiannon on April 09, 2017, 07:05:40 PM
I find your assertion that nobody cares to be offensive. Equally I find ad-o's 'blood and soil' love of racial purity offensive. It's his position that we don't care for.
Title: Re: Terrorist attack in Stockholm
Post by: Bubbles on April 09, 2017, 08:09:22 PM
I find your assertion that nobody cares to be offensive. Equally I find ad-o's 'blood and soil' love of racial purity offensive. It's his position that we don't care for.

Is it racial purity? Or is he objecting to a large immigrant population who might not share and even hate, the values of most people in Sweden/Netherlands.

There is a difference.


Title: Re: Terrorist attack in Stockholm
Post by: ad_orientem on April 09, 2017, 09:49:24 PM
Is it racial purity? Or is he objecting to a large immigrant population who might not share and even hate, the values of most people in Sweden/Netherlands.

There is a difference.

Indeed.
Title: Re: Terrorist attack in Stockholm
Post by: Rhiannon on April 09, 2017, 10:03:58 PM
Indeed.

So why go on about there being no Swedes left? You know they aren't going to be the victims of a Holocaust. What is it you think will happen?