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General Category => Sports, Hobbies & Interests => Topic started by: Nearly Sane on May 02, 2017, 09:59:00 AM

Title: Athletics records may be moved to world bests.
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 02, 2017, 09:59:00 AM

A good idea or an infringement of the presumption of innocence?



http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/39774233
Title: Re: Athletics records may be moved to world bests.
Post by: Rhiannon on May 02, 2017, 10:17:54 PM
I guess it might make more sense if the current era is clean, but it isn't.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2017/may/02/jonathan-edwards-paula-radcliffe-erasing-old-world-records
Title: Re: Athletics records may be moved to world bests.
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 03, 2017, 10:51:35 AM

Many different takes on this

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/39789773
Title: Re: Athletics records may be moved to world bests.
Post by: Rhiannon on May 03, 2017, 12:58:38 PM
I also think Colin Jackson has a point. Why should anyone young aspire to a career in elite athletics when your records can be wiped out because other people cheated?

Equally though he did get a good secondary career through commentary and advertising work etc. because of his success. Goldie Sayers has a different story thanks to the drug cheats.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/39787909

I used to love athletics but no longer watch it. It all feels so fake that it has lost any appeal. I don't know if the sport has a high profile future but it needs a complete rethink.
Title: Re: Athletics records may be moved to world bests.
Post by: wigginhall on May 03, 2017, 02:32:20 PM
I can see why they're doing it, but it must be gut-wrenching to have a record deleted.   
Title: Re: Athletics records may be moved to world bests.
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 03, 2017, 03:09:58 PM
Certainly the women's 100, 200, 400 and 800 are hinky.
Title: Re: Athletics records may be moved to world bests.
Post by: Rhiannon on May 03, 2017, 03:13:19 PM
It reminds me of whole class punishments at school. All that does is give the good kids a horrible sense of injustice - it doesn't stop the bad kids from messing about again.
Title: Re: Athletics records may be moved to world bests.
Post by: Steve H on September 08, 2017, 07:41:59 AM
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Britain's Paula Radcliffe, who faces losing her 2003 marathon world record, called the proposals "cowardly".
I was under the impression that there are no official marathon world records anyway, because the courses vary too much.
Title: Re: Athletics records may be moved to world bests.
Post by: Nearly Sane on September 08, 2017, 08:06:01 AM

I was under the impression that there are no official marathon world records anyway, because the courses vary too much.
Once upon a time you were correct and it was referred to as a world best but there are a number of restrictions which allow them to declare records. If you want to read more detail see below link.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marathon_world_record_progression
Title: Re: Athletics records may be moved to world bests.
Post by: Steve H on September 08, 2017, 08:07:14 AM
Oh - thanks.
Title: Re: Athletics records may be moved to world bests.
Post by: Walter on September 12, 2017, 05:53:41 PM
I also think Colin Jackson has a point. Why should anyone young aspire to a career in elite athletics when your records can be wiped out because other people cheated?

Equally though he did get a good secondary career through commentary and advertising work etc. because of his success. Goldie Sayers has a different story thanks to the drug cheats.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/39787909

I used to love athletics but no longer watch it. It all feels so fake that it has lost any appeal. I don't know if the sport has a high profile future but it needs a complete rethink.
I too never watch it because only people who enter the competitions are measured. There must be people who aren't even aware of such competitions who may be much better than them.