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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: ippy on June 23, 2017, 09:54:19 AM
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Bought my wife a smart phone, neither of us can set it up so we're off to an O2 shop to find a translator.
It's a P A Y G phone sim where you don't loose any of the remaining credit at the end of every month, the phone was one of the sim free kind, unlocked.
I suspect the bloody thing is smarter than either of us, we both use tablets and I notice it's very similar in that way, but getting it to work, ugfjvjgb@''j, if you'll pardon the French.
Is there any sympathy out there?
ippy
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I am adjusted to phones being too smart, it's my oven that worries me.
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I have a simple mobile phone, which I only take with me, in case of emergency, when driving. I prefer my landline.
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I would say that my phone is pretty rather than smart. 8)
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Is it possible that the phones are not too smart, but that humans are not yet smart enough?
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Bought my wife a smart phone, neither of us can set it up so we're off to an O2 shop to find a translator.
It's a P A Y G phone sim where you don't loose any of the remaining credit at the end of every month, the phone was one of the sim free kind, unlocked.
I suspect the bloody thing is smarter than either of us, we both use tablets and I notice it's very similar in that way, but getting it to work, ugfjvjgb@''j, if you'll pardon the French.
Is there any sympathy out there?
ippy
I find iPhones a breeze. When I bought a basic pay-as-you-go noddy phone recently just for texting I couldn't get the bloody thing to work.
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I have not learned how to text and absolutely refuse to do so. No one has my mobile phone number, as I said it is only for an emergency when I am driving, if the car breaks down, for instance.
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I have not learned how to text and absolutely refuse to do so.
You seem very keen on denying yourself things which are helpful and useful (texting) or pleasurable (drinking).
Takes all sorts I suppose - even those who seem to want to deliberately diminish their world.
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You seem very keen on denying yourself things which are helpful and useful (texting) or pleasurable (drinking).
Takes all sorts I suppose - even those who seem to want to deliberately diminish their world.
Why is texting useful? I do drink, but in strict moderation.
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Why is texting useful?
It's quick, it's convenient, it's (usually, these days) free ... how many more reasons do you need?
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It's also discreet - far less intrusive than a phone call.
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It's quick, it's convenient, it's (usually, these days) free ... how many more reasons do you need?
Quick and convenient for what?
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Quick and convenient for what?
Communication.
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I wish my dad would learn to text. As much as I love him to bits and love talking to him, it'd save both of us a lot of time currently taken up by phone calls of the 'I've picked up the thing for your mum' kind.
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I hate phone conversations, as I tend to run out of things to say. So texting is good for me. Minimalist.
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Communication.
Why do people need to be in instant communication with others 24/7? If people need me they can e-mail or phone me on my landline. I have had a nice chat with one of sisters, for about an hour earlier, whom I haven't spoken to for a few weeks. That is so much more satisfying than some text message.
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I can talk for hours on the phone. But it's not always appropriate or desirable.
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Why do people need to be in instant communication with others 24/7?
It's sometimes necessary to get hold of somebody quickly, and in those situations sending an e-mail is about the same as calling the fire brigade by second-class post.
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It's sometimes necessary to get hold of somebody quickly, and in those situations sending an e-mail is about the same as calling the fire brigade by second-class post.
How did we manage in the old days before we had mobile phones? If I need to get in touch with a person quickly, which I very rarely do, I phone them.
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How did we manage in the old days before we had mobile phones?
In retrospect, by current standards, often quite badly.
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In retrospect, by current standards, often quite badly.
I don't think so.
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I am adjusted to phones being too smart, it's my oven that worries me.
For me it is the washing machine: to me it is incomprehensible but Mrs G just looks at it and it works.
I use a simple mobile for conversations only - most of which involve my adult children checking up on me.
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For me it is the washing machine: to me it is incomprehensible but Mrs G just looks at it and it works.
I use a simple mobile for conversations only - most of which involve my adult children checking up on me.
You must be a clone of my husband! In the 90s when I was having a holiday in my island home, he phoned me three times in one morning to get me to explain how to use the washing machine. He didn't even have only half a working brain in those days to use as an excuse, he supposedly had a MENSA level intelligence! ::)
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How did we manage in the old days before we had mobile phones? If I need to get in touch with a person quickly, which I very rarely do, I phone them.
When I had a tyre blowout recently on a B road in the middle of nowhere, on a Bank Holiday with a car full of kids, my smartphone meant I could find the AA's number online, ring them, tell them about my change of address and arrange for them to come and sort it for me. Without it I would have been well and truly screwed.
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When I had a tyre blowout recently on a B road in the middle of nowhere, on a Bank Holiday with a car full of kids, my smartphone meant I could find the AA's number online, ring them, tell them about my change of address and arrange for them to come and sort it for me. Without it I would have been well and truly screwed.
Having broken down on the M4 near(ish) but not within walking distance of Reading, I heartily concur.
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When I had a tyre blowout recently on a B road in the middle of nowhere, on a Bank Holiday with a car full of kids, my smartphone meant I could find the AA's number online, ring them, tell them about my change of address and arrange for them to come and sort it for me. Without it I would have been well and truly screwed.
Saved the life of my last dog she had an artery cut by a shredded ally can while I was out on a walk with her, on my own, I phoned my wife she came and picked us up in our car with various towels for strapping up the dog's leg, we then got to an emergency vet within about ten minutes.
ippy
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If people need me they can e-mail
Think of a text as an email but on your phone.
Which you can access in the same way you can your computer.
Then you might not be so scared of it!
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Think of a text as an email but on your phone.
Which you can access in the same way you can your computer.
Then you might not be so scared of it!
No thanks, I have no wish to carry a phone around with me.
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No thanks, I have no wish to carry a phone around with me.
I have some sympathy with your viewpoint as being available 24/7 can be tiresome..but you can switch them off. Surely the real persuasive argument is in case of emergencies when you aren't at home. I actually can't see any reson not to have one even if as only a safety back up.
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No thanks, I have no wish to carry a phone around with me.
I never said that you should!
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No thanks, I have no wish to carry a phone around with me.
I'm still considering whether to get electrickery installed Floo! :o
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I'm still considering whether to get electrickery installed Floo! :o
Now I have an image of you as Catweazle
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Now I have an image of you as Catweazle
you're not far off at that ;)
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I have some sympathy with your viewpoint as being available 24/7 can be tiresome..but you can switch them off. Surely the real persuasive argument is in case of emergencies when you aren't at home. I actually can't see any reson not to have one even if as only a safety back up.
As long as I carry my phone when I am driving so I can use it if I have a problem with the car, that is the only time I would have a use for it. As I said no one has the number, so no one can phone me on it. Anything urgent can wait until I get home, I am never out for long.
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I find it extremely inconvenient and sometimes worrying when people refuse to text. It's inconsiderate tbh. But my dad is so technophobic I have to accept it.
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I find it extremely inconvenient and sometimes worrying when people refuse to text. It's inconsiderate tbh. But my dad is so technophobic I have to accept it.
Why is it inconvenient and inconsiderate, I don't get it? Why do people want instant communication? I would detest being in constant contact with people, even my nearest and dearest, I need time to myself throughout the day.
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Why is it inconvenient and inconsiderate, I don't get it? Why do people want instant communication? I would detest being in constant contact with people, even my nearest and dearest, I need time to myself throughout the day.
It isn't about constant communication. If I need to ask my dad a quick question I have to ring him and he has to get to his phone to answer. It takes up time and I feel I've inconvenienced him. When he rings me I often have to stop what I'm doing and deal with something that could have been put in a text quickly and dealt with later, probably by me calling him at a more convenient time. If he is somewhere that he can't take a call but I'm concerned about him, its possible to send a quick 'I'm ok text' discreetly. There's also the privacy issue when he rings me and I'm out shopping or whatever. Texting means that you don't have to worry about others overhearing.
I also like a text before someone rings me. An 'are you free to chat?' text is extremely considerate.
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It isn't about constant communication. If I need to ask my dad a quick question I have to ring him and he has to get to his phone to answer. It takes up time and I feel I've inconvenienced him. When he rings me I often have to stop what I'm doing and deal with something that could have been put in a text quickly and dealt with later, probably by me calling him at a more convenient time. If he is somewhere that he can't take a call but I'm concerned about him, its possible to send a quick 'I'm ok text' discreetly. There's also the privacy issue when he rings me and I'm out shopping or whatever. Texting means that you don't have to worry about others overhearing.
I also like a text before someone rings me. An 'are you free to chat?' text is extremely considerate.
Weird!
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No its not. It means I don't have to interrupt cooking or dinner, and I can get a cup of tea and go to the loo first. It means that the other person gets my undivided attention. What's not to like?
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Weird!
in what way? Rhiannon puts forward a set of sensible reasons on the joy of text.
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in what way? Rhiannon puts forward a set of sensible reasons on the joy of text.
Asking permission to phone someone? YE GODS.
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Asking permission to phone someone? YE GODS.
It's called consideration, presumably.
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No thanks, I have no wish to carry a phone around with me.
What if you're out somewhere on your own and you need help because you're incapacitated in some way but able to use a phone, of course.
This could save your life Floo, imagine, no Floo for me to be able to be rude about her Welsh weather, carry your phone Floo they can be life savers.
ippy
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Very true, ipples.
If you can't see the sheer convenience of having something so small that it fits into your pocket which not only allows instant communication as, when and if it's needed - sometimes in important situations as Rhiannon and I both noted or even in vital situations, as ipster said - but allows you to look up anything in seconds, get the weather forecast, sports results if that's your thing, the news, you name it ... well, why anybody would choose to limit themselves in such a way is something I'll never understand.
We did without such things in years past because we had to and had no choice - but now we do and we're the better for it.
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Asking permission to phone someone? YE GODS.
Don't distort what I said.
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It's called consideration, presumably.
Just had to get out of the shower to answer the phone for something that could have been put in a text. >:(
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Just had to get out of the shower to answer the phone for something that could have been put in a text. >:(
Quite.
And another factor for me at any rate is the sheer amazingness of the technology. I've had a mobile phone for twenty years but sending words through the air instantaneously anywhere on the planet is still fantastic witchery I've never quite become blase about.
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Quite.
And another factor for me at any rate is the sheer amazingness of the technology. I've had a mobile phone for twenty years but sending words through the air instantaneously anywhere on the planet is still fantastic witchery I've never quite become blase about.
my daughter and young family live in Australia and WhatsApp has become indispensable especially as we are in a group where we can all see and join in conversations and share pics and vids ,bloody marvellous!
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What if you're out somewhere on your own and you need help because you're incapacitated in some way but able to use a phone, of course.
This could save your life Floo, imagine, no Floo for me to be able to be rude about her Welsh weather, carry your phone Floo they can be life savers.
ippy
I don't need it apart from when I am driving. Good grief in the days before mobile phones we managed to survive, now the whole situation has got crazy. People are using their phones almost all the time, which is daft!
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I don't need it apart from when I am driving. Good grief in the days before mobile phones we managed to survive, now the whole situation has got crazy.
We survived without a great many things, only on the basis that they didn't exist. Now that they do exist, and make life easier, who would choose to do without them?
People are using their phones almost all the time, which is daft!
Probably because phones now are so very much more than a thing that has only one function, i.e. make phone calls.
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I have an iPhone, and I love it.
I can attach my iPad to it by personal hotspot, and get internet access just about anywhere.
Which means I can listen to any music just about anywhere or even watch films.
I post on here, by hotspotting at this very moment. I can keep in touch with my son, as he tours the world either by linking up the phone or iPad and he can show me his surroundings on live video.
I can text, which is miles better than leaving a message and more convenient.
I book my cinema tickets through my phone and use the wallet function to store the tickets and when I arrive to watch my film the cinema staff scan in the code on my phone, no messing about collecting tickets, no queues.
I take photos on it.
Look up places while I'm away from home and if I link it to my iPad can look up no end of useful things while on holiday, like events or restaurants or taxi companies.
I can order food to be delivered by using just eat, wherever I am.
I use it to order things for my dad, sometimes he even gets it the next day, amazon is brilliant.
Nothing nicer than when my dad tells me about something he believes is impossible to get that he wants to try, and I whip out my phone and iPad and order it at his house ( where he has no phone, or TV, he's a total technophobe won't even have a washing machine).
The last thing he told me about was a tea company in Cornwall that grew their own tea leaves in Cornwall and that it was almost impossible to get the tea bags , because most of it was exported. He wanted to try it, things " British" impresses my dad.
I whipped out my phone and iPad, searched for it, ordered it off amazon and it was delivered to his door, the very next day.
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I think it frightens him a bit 😜💐 he's 92 this July. Almost blind.
My phone, I love it, helps me bring some happiness into other people's lives.
I have to watch my impulsive nature though 😀
I'm still learning what other useful things I can use it for.
I can also use it like a sat nav, if I need to find a road or place while being in a strange place, that's very useful.
If you can connect to google earth and select street view, you can even see what the place looks like 😜
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We survived without a great many things, only on the basis that they didn't exist. Now that they do exist, and make life easier, who would choose to do without them?
Probably because phones now are so very much more than a thing that has only one function, i.e. make phone calls.
They don't make life easier, imo.
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That don't make life easier, imo.
Why not?
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I'm sorry, but just to assume that everyone is happy to take phone calls at another's convenience is just inconsiderate, if not downright rude. It's far, far more intrusive into someone's personal time than a text.
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I'm sorry, but just to assume that everyone is happy to take phone calls at another's convenience is just inconsiderate, if not downright rude. It's far, far more intrusive into someone's personal time than a text.
My kids tell me if my phone calls aren't convenient, and as they are the only people I phone on a regular basis, apart from a couple of elderly people who don't have mobile phones, there is no problem. Texts are much more intrusive than phone calls, imo, especially as most of the time you haven't a clue what they are on about as they use this stupid text speak. We will just have to agree to differ on this topic.
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I don't know anyone who uses text speak, stupid or otherwise. People I know use English. But not understanding the way some use it is no reason to reject it.
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I don't know anyone who uses text speak, stupid or otherwise. People I know use English. But not understanding the way some use it is no reason to reject it.
Well I have completely rejected it, as no one has come up with a sensible reason for texting.
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Well I have completely rejected it, as no one has come up with a sensible reason for texting.
Several people have given you several - you must have missed them.
#9, #10, #17, #23, #24, #25, #36, #38, #42, #43, #45, #46, #47, #50, #53.
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Several people have given you several - you must have missed them.
Anyway if people are happy being tied to their phones 24/7 that is up to them, just as it is up to me, not to be shackled by the things.
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I get texts from my daughter, saying she would like to talk to me. She might also tell me when she will be available - and not in the shower.
At the appointed time, I pick up my phone and I use FaceTime to contact her (like Skype - but better). And I can talk to her and see my grandsons and see what she has just bought, or the newly-decorated dining room ... or whatever. I can do this because we both have iPhones.
And it costs me nothing beyond the standing charges I have aleady paid because I am not running up landline charges.
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Anyway if people are happy being tied to their phones 24/7 that is up to them, just as it is up to me, not to be shackled by the things.
Nobody's tied to anything - they come with an off button. Unless there's an element of compulsion - which I admit there can be with work - people generally like making life easier. Rhiannon wasn't stranded with kids in a knackered car. Ippy got his dog to the vet quickly. Walter can see family half way around the world; ditto HH.
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For myself I still don't see the advantage of a mobile phone over that of a landline or computer, apart from when I am driving. I prefer my laptop for sending e-mails. I find an ipad, which I also own, extremely hard to use. I love my Kindle, but I am concerned that when it eventually wears out I will have to buy one of the more modern ones with a touch screen, which I don't get on with. HEY HO.
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I don't need it apart from when I am driving. Good grief in the days before mobile phones we managed to survive, now the whole situation has got crazy. People are using their phones almost all the time, which is daft!
Yes Floo in some ways you're right but you never can tell about things that might happen to you, if you've got your phone with you, doesn't mean you have to use it but it could get you out of potentially serious trouble.
Just think you're out there trying to rescue one of those Welsh mountain goats and you slip if you've got your phone, just think of all those husky mountain rescue men that'll come out to get you.
Why do we keep asking Welsh people, 'did your dad have a beard'? (Just a thought).
ippy
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Yes Floo in some ways you're right but you never can tell about things that might happen to you, if you've got your phone with you, doesn't mean you have to use it but it could get you out of potentially serious trouble.
Just think you're out there trying to rescue one of those Welsh mountain goats and you slip if you've got your phone, just think of all those husky mountain rescue men that'll come out to get you.
Why do we keep asking Welsh people, 'did your dad have a beard'? (Just a thought).
ippy
Apart from going to the supermarket, or other short journeys once or twice a week, I don't drive very far these days. If we are going on a journey one of my kids does the driving. My daily walk first thing in the morning is just around our local neighbourhood where I am well known, so if I got into any trouble someone would sort me out.
Who asks Welsh people if they have a beard? I have never heard anyone ask a Welsh person that question. I am not Welsh.
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Apart from going to the supermarket, or other short journeys once or twice a week, I don't drive very far these days. If we are going on a journey one of my kids does the driving. My daily walk first thing in the morning is just around our local neighbourhood where I am well known, so if I got into any trouble someone would sort me out.
Who asks Welsh people if they have a beard? I have never heard anyone ask a Welsh person that question. I am not Welsh.
You live there Floo, I thought you might know and so much for the poor old mountain goat.
ippy
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You live there Floo, I thought you might know and so much for the poor old mountain goat.
ippy
What are you on about? ::)
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You live there Floo, I thought you might know and so much for the poor old mountain goat.
ippy
Floo knows more about donkeys.
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What are you on about? ::)
It's a bit of Cockney humour we ask any Welsh if their dads had a beard, we're questioning their parentage, with all of those mountain goats running about up there in Wales, it's supposed to be just a bit of good humoured banter.
If you were injured rescuing a mountain goat, you could be helping the goat at the same time if you had your phone with you.
Floo go back to bed and then get up again only this time wake up when you get up, you can be hard work at times.
Cockneys don't keep telling people they're accepted they have to accept some good humoured banter as the alternative, that's how it is, I believe this is how it is with humour in a lot of big cities.
ippy
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I have no idea what the heck you are on about, but no matter!
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I have no idea what the heck you are on about, but no matter!
GOATS HAVE BEARDS WAKEY WAKEY FLOO.
ippy
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I have no idea what the heck you are on about, but no matter!
Floo
I find your comments an embarrassment to the human race , get off your puter , allow your children the freedom they deserve and retire to your darkened hovel and revel in your swamp of ages past
have a nice day
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An Englishman, Scotsman and Welshman walk into a bar. Each orders a pint of Brain’s but, as they’re served, a fly lands in each pint.
The Englishman immediately pushes his beer away in disgust.
The Scotsman thinks for a few seconds, shrugs, and also pushes the pint away.
The Welshman turns bright red, picks the fly out of the beer and holds it over his glass shouting: “SPIT IT OUT! SPIT IT OUT!”
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An Englishman, Scotsman and Welshman walk into a bar. Each orders a pint of Brain’s but, as they’re served, a fly lands in each pint.
The Englishman immediately pushes his beer away in disgust.
The Scotsman thinks for a few seconds, shrugs, and also pushes the pint away.
The Welshman turns bright red, picks the fly out of the beer and holds it over his glass shouting: “SPIT IT OUT! SPIT IT OUT!”
nice try , when did you last go in a pub and actually enjoy it without condemning everyone who was in there ?
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nice try , when did you last go in a pub and actually enjoy it without condemning everyone who was in there ?
It was supposed to be humour :o
I'll get my coat :-[
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It was supposed to be humour :o
I'll get my coat :-[
never mind your coat, get an iPhone , a 12 year old child will be able to tell you how to use it . ::) ::) ::)
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never mind your coat, get an iPhone , a 12 year old child will be able to tell you how to use it . ::) ::) ::)
I've got an iPhone :o check out post *50.
I already know how to use it.
Have you lost your glasses?
8)
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nice try , when did you last go in a pub and actually enjoy it without condemning everyone who was in there ?
Have you got some issue with me Walter?
Is it something I've said?
As my post shows, I already have an iPhone.
What's the matter?
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I've got an iPhone :o check out post *50.
I already know how to use it.
Have you lost your glasses?
8)
please excuse me ROSE I was addressing Floo. I've got my specs on now but the 7 pints of old gold at lunch time are betraying my composure .
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please excuse me ROSE I was addressing Floo. I've got my specs on now but the 7 pints of old gold at lunch time are betraying my composure .
;D
Well I'm glad that's sorted ;)
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;D
Well I'm glad that's sorted ;)
phew! me too, barman said I was a real shirt front, I felt honoured in light of recent horse racing fashions.
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Asking permission to phone someone? YE GODS.
I do that quite a lot. If I know somebody who I want to speak to is has a meeting, I'll text them to see if it's over yet.
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I do that quite a lot. If I know somebody who I want to speak to is has a meeting, I'll text them to see if it's over yet.
It's not even "asking permission"; it's showing a bit of consideration toward somebody who may be busy and unable to speak on the phone.
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I have some sympathy with your viewpoint as being available 24/7 can be tiresome..but you can switch them off. Surely the real persuasive argument is in case of emergencies when you aren't at home. I actually can't see any reson not to have one even if as only a safety back up.
Like me, quite a few of my friends have mobile phones, but keep them switched off unless we want to use them. Those who know us know that they are switched off!
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Why is it inconvenient and inconsiderate, I don't get it? Why do people want instant communication? I would detest being in constant contact with people, even my nearest and dearest, I need time to myself throughout the day.
As far as I'm concerned, I have no choice. I'd love to be able to text and read texts! There are models available which have audio accessibility but I cannot think of any reason to get one.
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Just had to get out of the shower to answer the phone for something that could have been put in a text. >:(
Doesn't it have a message taker, or whatever you call it? I have an answerphone at home so that if I'm taking a shower or something, I can leave the phone if it rings.
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As you can leave a voice message on most phones, mobile or landlines, I have no idea why people like Rhi think that sending a text message is the only way to go about it! In fact it would appear some people spend more time texting than speaking, at this rate the human race will lose the ability to speak. I have heard that some folk actually text each other when in the same room in their homes. :o And people think I am the crazy one! ::) It seems to me mobile phone use has got completely out of hand especially with young people, who seem to be surgically attached to their phones. They walk along to school busy texting, apparently not aware of what is going on around them. I had to drag one kid back a few months ago, when he nearly got run over by a car, he hadn't checked the road before he crossed it as he was too busy on his phone! :o
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(Re texting)
I do that quite a lot. If I know somebody who I want to speak to is has a meeting, I'll text them to see if it's over yet.
It's not even "asking permission"; it's showing a bit of consideration toward somebody who may be busy and unable to speak on the phone.
Agreed, texting is especially useful at work.They don't cause a disturbance & texts are easier to read than listening to messages. WHen texting folk tend to keep to the point & give relevant information which can be actioned immediately by the reader. The same text can also be sent to several people if necessary.
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Being of a certain age texting doesn't come easy to me, so I stick to short messages of the 'on way home' variety. Since my natural inclination is to try to spell and punctuate properly I find that texting quickly becomes frustrating if I spot, say, a spelling mistake six words back.
My kids and older grand-kids seem to be able to text rapidly, with thumbs a-flying, without even looking at the screen!
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As you can leave a voice message on most phones, mobile or landlines, I have no idea why people like Rhi think that sending a text message is the only way to go about it! In fact it would appear some people spend more time texting than speaking, at this rate the human race will lose the ability to speak. I have heard that some folk actually text each other when in the same room in their homes. :o And people think I am the crazy one! ::) It seems to me mobile phone use has got completely out of hand especially with young people, who seem to be surgically attached to their phones. They walk along to school busy texting, apparently not aware of what is going on around them. I had to drag one kid back a few months ago, when he nearly got run over by a car, he hadn't checked the road before he crossed it as he was too busy on his phone! :o
'People like Rhi' prefer texting to voicemail as listening to a message is far less discreet and takes longer than glancing at a text. And refusal to accept texting necessitates a phone call in reply.
The idea that people spend more time texting than talking is largely a myth. And some young people may be glued to their phones but they are unlikely to be texting. They will be using another messaging service, gaming or sorting their music stream.
I've already tried to explain why texting before making a phone call is good, and not just in the workplace. I can tell my dad he's rung at an inconvenient time and he's fine with it but it's still caused distruption. My friends who text before ringing (and sometimes I'm the one who texts them) know that when we've arranged a time to chat we are both relaxed and comfortable and can enjoy the conversation.
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'People like Rhi' prefer texting to voicemail as listening to a message is far less discreet and takes longer than glancing at a text. And refusal to accept texting necessitates a phone call in reply.
The idea that people spend more time texting than talking is largely a myth. And some young people may be glued to their phones but they are unlikely to be texting. They will be using another messaging service, gaming or sorting their music stream.
I've already tried to explain why texting before making a phone call is good, and not just in the workplace. I can tell my dad he's rung at an inconvenient time and he's fine with it but it's still caused distruption. My friends who text before ringing (and sometimes I'm the one who texts them) know that when we've arranged a time to chat we are both relaxed and comfortable and can enjoy the conversation.
Each to their own, you are happy texting, fine, I am happy not doing so, which is also fine.
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I find iPhones a breeze.
No doubt. But iTunes sucks.
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I don't know anyone who uses text speak, stupid or otherwise. People I know use English. But not understanding the way some use it is no reason to reject it.
I occasionally use text speak (usually ironically). Mostly I write short texts in full English spelling, as terse as possible to convey the intended meaning.
c u aO, Rh
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u wot m8
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I hate text speak. They don't even teach joined-up writing in schools anymore, at least not over here. Soon people won't be able to write at all.
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I hate text speak. They don't even teach joined-up writing in schools anymore, at least not over here. Soon people won't be able to write at all.
I suspect in years to come writing with a pen/pencil will be as outdated as writing with a quill pen.
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I suspect in years to come writing with a pen/pencil will be as outdated as writing with a quill pen.
It's an odd one, for most people in terms of writing some form of stylus will be quicker than typing for the next few years but it is only recently that usable stylus and tablet have been economic. However, the obvious speediest way will be voice, though that changes style significantly. And then at some stage thought when I suspect our stream of consciousness will shock us into silence.
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It's an odd one, for most people in terms of writing some form of stylus will be quicker than typing for the next few years but it is only recently that usable stylus and tablet have been economic. However, the obvious speediest way will be voice, though that changes style significantly. And then at some stage thought when I suspect our stream of consciousness will shock us into silence.
I suspect that you are right in predicting a growth in voice recognition - though if the tv subtitles are anything to go by its results may well be approximate in some cases.
My iPhone and iPad enable me to text in acceptable English by having predictive text - based on (I presume) a mixture of orthography and grammatical structure a selection of possible words is available and I choose one. I think that this is available with word processors as well.
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u wot m8
"c u aO, Rh" stands for "See you around, Rhiannon". The 'O' is round - geddit? :-)
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"c u aO, Rh" stands for "See you around, Rhiannon". The 'O' is round - geddit? :-)
I'm glad you explained. :D