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General Category => Sports, Hobbies & Interests => Topic started by: Rhiannon on August 11, 2017, 09:33:57 PM
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Cracking opener to the EPL but Leicester look like they've thrown it away.
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Two matches, thirteen goals.
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And for the moment Huddersfield at top of the EPL.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/40862375
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IKR. And a lot of sniggering at Chelsea.
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I am just basking in a 4-1 derby win today
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St Johnstone?
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No, not my team and St Johnstone weren't playing a derby. Greenock Morton
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No, not my team and St Johnstone weren't playing a derby. Greenock Morton
Oh, ok. My knowledge of where Scottish football teams are is something like non existent.
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In part it's the lack of place names in titles for a number. St Johnstone is Perth. Morton only relatively recently added Greenock into the title and we gubbed the Midden as we in banterly terms refer to St Mirren from Paisley.
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I am now basking in the glory of a 4-0 defeat. Groundhog Day for Hammers fans.
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Chelsea have played two matches this season and their red card count matches their goals scored count.
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http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40507399
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http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40507399
Ha, I am Cristiano Ronaldo. To be fair the sculpture does look more like me.
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:D
I'm Peter Schmeichel.
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Two matches, thirteen goals.
Indeed - really pleased with Watford rescuing a point in the 93rd.
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It’s time for the management roulette game again. Who’s next for the chop? I have to say, my money for the first to go was heavily on Wenger but he’s probably in the clear for now. Will it be Hodgson? I bet he hopes so! Will it be Koeman? What about Howe or Shakespeare?
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It will be Bilic.
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Scrub that.
Koeman.
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I am giving my brother a wide berth at the moment, he is a Crystal Palace supporter.
Old joke "Nothing wrong with the team that nine or ten new players could not put right".
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A guy I was dating is a Palace fan.
I find this mildly amusing.
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I am giving my brother a wide berth at the moment, he is a Crystal Palace supporter.
Old joke "Nothing wrong with the team that nine or ten new players could not put right".
Who's the one (or two) you'd keep?
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And we have a winner. Goodbye Craig Shakespeare (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41656917)
In other news, I am somewhat disappointed that Crystal Palace have spoilt their perfect record.
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Who's the one (or two) you'd keep?
Julian Speroni.
I ain't crying too much about Palace since I am a Charlton supporter.
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And we have a winner. Goodbye Craig Shakespeare (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41656917)
I suppose that means he's been Bard from the ground.
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Ronald Koeman has the total support of the club's board (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41670426)
Anybody want to bet against him being next?
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Ronald Koeman has the total support of the club's board (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41670426)
Anybody want to bet against him being next?
Err, no.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41683786
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No surprises here, I guess.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41702779
Bring back Big Sam!
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I've never known a World Cup without Italy in it. This is a bit of a fall from grace for the 2006 winners.
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Sad that Buffon didn't play one last World Cup
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http://newsthump.com/2017/11/17/wife-suggests-arsenal-supporting-husband-give-spurs-a-try/
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http://newsthump.com/2017/11/17/wife-suggests-arsenal-supporting-husband-give-spurs-a-try/
Very good. My dad was a canny old bugger, and used to watch City, Utd and Oldham. Well, one of them was usually having a good run. Proper ecumenical he was. Mind you, way back some City and Utd players used to be best friends, maybe they are now though.
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Very good. My dad was a canny old bugger, and used to watch City, Utd and Oldham. Well, one of them was usually having a good run. Proper ecumenical he was. Mind you, way back some City and Utd players used to be best friends, maybe they are now though.
Don't get that at all.
Fair enough you can follow a top team and another that isn't in the same league metaphorically (even if occasionally in the same league in reality) but I simply don't get how you can 'follow' (i.e. support) both City and United - they are mutually incompatible, as are Liverpool and Everton, Rangers and Celtic, Arsenal and Spurs ... and Watford and Luton.
And regarding players - they are, of course professional and therefore paid for their allegiance - the allegiance of supporters runs much, much deeper!!
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I had a friend years ago who supported both Celtic and Rangers.
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I had a friend years ago who supported both Celtic and Rangers.
That's just wrong.
I've known plenty of people in Scotland who support their local team plus one of Celtic or Rangers, but never anyone who claimed to support both!!
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That's just wrong.
I've known plenty of people in Scotland who support their local team plus one of Celtic or Rangers, but never anyone who claimed to support both!!
We were teens at the time - penfriends - and I didn’t appreciate anything about the sectarianism. I had no idea how odd it is.
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We were teens at the time - penfriends - and I didn’t appreciate anything about the sectarianism. I had no idea how odd it is.
Regardless of the increased tension of sectarianism in the Celtic/Rangers context the whole point about these rivalries is that you have to plump for one or the other, you cannot support both.
To quote Billy Bragg from Northern Industrial Town:
'And there's only two teams in this town
And you must follow one or the other
Let us win, let them lose, not the other way round'
And it isn't just that you want you team to win - just as important (perhaps more so) is that the other team loses.
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Regardless of the increased tension of sectarianism in the Celtic/Rangers context the whole point about these rivalries is that you have to plump for one or the other, you cannot support both.
To quote Billy Bragg from Northern Industrial Town:
'And there's only two teams in this town
And you must follow one or the other
Let us win, let them lose, not the other way round'
And it isn't just that you want you team to win - just as important (perhaps more so) is that the other team loses.
As a WHU fan Millwall is probably our Most Hated, although we aren't supposed to like other London teams either. I really don't care though. And I'll happily cheer on Spurs.
And I've dated a Millwall supporter.
The sectarianism adds a whole new layer though.
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As a WHU fan Millwall is probably our Most Hated, although we aren't supposed to like other London teams either. I really don't care though. And I'll happily cheer on Spurs.
And I've dated a Millwall supporter.
The sectarianism adds a whole new layer though.
I think every team has one 'most hated' other team. So for WHU Millwall may be the most hated, but that creates a problem because they are divisions below. And how ever much you might try to create a new 'most hated team' it just doesn't really work because it has to reciprocal. So WHU might turn their attentions to Spurs as they rarely play Millwall, but Spurs will shrug their shoulder and murmur 'whatever' as they continue to turn their attention to Arsenal, as they alway have done.
But this is a bit of a London problem due to too many teams as it were, with some effectively 'orphaned' teams, traditionally hating teams that really aren't worth bothering with - e.g. Chelsea and their traditional rivalry with Fulham and WHU with Millwall.
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From what I can gather the WHU/Milwall firms organise plenty of, erm, rivalry whether they are playing each other or not. But that’s the lunatic fringe. From what I can tell most WHU fans have transferred their hatred to Chelsea. Well, doesn’t everyone?
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But that’s the lunatic fringe. From what I can tell most WHU fans have transferred their hatred to Chelsea. Well, doesn’t everyone?
WHU vs Chelsea seems to work well as both are orphaned from their traditional rivals.
Nothing worse and one sided rivalry. As a Watford fan our traditional rivals are, of course, Luton. However it has been a long while since they have come close to Watford's position - indeed spending a number of years outside the football league while Watford have ping-pointed between Premier and Championship. So I suspect that currently Luton hate Watford with a passion (due to their success) while Watford consider Luton to be an irrelevant (due to their failure) - hatred being replaced by pity!
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I was just thinking that I have watched all the London clubs, depending on where I was living. But this is not 'support' I suppose. I watched Chelsea at lot as I lived in Fulham, they were quite mediocre, but the tickets were £7. That's about the price of a hot dog now. The Shed end at Chelsea was the most foul mouthed place I have ever been, anyway, I can't afford it now. We sometimes pop round the corner and watch Fulham, a very nice ground next to the river, team not so good now.
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I was just thinking that I have watched all the London clubs, depending on where I was living. But this is not 'support' I suppose. I watched Chelsea at lot as I lived in Fulham, they were quite mediocre, but the tickets were £7. That's about the price of a hot dog now. The Shed end at Chelsea was the most foul mouthed place I have ever been, anyway, I can't afford it now. We sometimes pop round the corner and watch Fulham, a very nice ground next to the river, team not so good now.
Yes Fulham is a great ground. I remember some years ago being in one of the pubs by the river before heading to Craven cottage to watch them play Burnley (in the old 3rd division I think). It was the same day a six nation rugby fixture and the pub was full of rugby fans preparing to watch the match. They simply couldn't understand why we wanted to go and watch Fulham play football rather than England play rugby!!
When I was spending quite a bit of time in west London I also used to go to Brentford quite a lot - great ground, directly on the flight path to Heathrow so they'd put advertising on the roofs of the stands. Also has a pub on each corner.
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http://newsthump.com/2017/11/17/wife-suggests-arsenal-supporting-husband-give-spurs-a-try/
the inevitable humiliation, anger, and misery that will entail for Arsenal fans across the country.
Ha ha ha ha.
Football wouldn't be half as funny without Spurs buggering things up on a regular basis.
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Nothing worse and one sided rivalry.
Most rivalries are one sided. In international football, it's more obvious I think. Scottish supporters think they have a huge rivalry with England, but most England supporters - even now - probably regard Scotland as a minor irritation, certainly not on a parr with such giants as Iceland.
For English supporters, the big rivalry is, of course, with Germany. But, I understand the Germans don't have the same perception. Somebody told me that they are more concerned with the Netherlands.
All this is just so I can quote one of my favourite lines from The Unbelievable Truth.
"England Germany is always a big game, although, for Germany, there are usually bigger games to follow" ~~ Henning Wehn.
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Ha ha ha ha.
Football wouldn't be half as funny without Spurs buggering things up on a regular basis.
They do it brilliantly, don’t they? :D
I was talking to a friend last night and told him the WHU score and couldn’t get why he was roaring (quite scarily if I’m honest) with laughter.
Then I remembered he’s a Sheffield Utd fan.
Apparently the fans there still sing a sing about a riot after a game against Wednesday in which some supporters died. It happened in 18 something.
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And Pulis sacked
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42041923
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They do it brilliantly, don’t they? :D
I was talking to a friend last night and told him the WHU score and couldn’t get why he was roaring (quite scarily if I’m honest) with laughter.
Then I remembered he’s a Sheffield Utd fan.
Apparently the fans there still sing a sing about a riot after a game against Wednesday in which some supporters died. It happened in 18 something.
I used to work with a Sheffield United fan when they got relegated from the Premier League. Your friend is probably also still bitter about Tevez-gate, when West Ham allegedly played Carlos Tevez illegally, winning the final match of the season in 2007 thus saving themselves from relegation at the expense of Sheffield United.
Anyway, I'm sure you are too sensible to be one of these guys
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-42054350
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I used to work with a Sheffield United fan when they got relegated from the Premier League. Your friend is probably also still bitter about Tevez-gate, when West Ham allegedly played Carlos Tevez illegally, winning the final match of the season in 2007 thus saving themselves from relegation at the expense of Sheffield United.
Anyway, I'm sure you are too sensible to be one of these guys
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-42054350
Tevez is exactly why my friend is bitter.
The weird thing about that story is that it's Essex police that are involved, which meant he waited until he got home before ringing the rozzers. At least if he'd rung from the ground they might have been able to arrest various people for fraudulently claiming to be footballers.
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I had to laugh when I saw that big Sam is heading to Everton, and Pardew to West Brom. This is like a giant carousel or musical chairs, with the same managers getting up from one chair, and then sitting down in another. I suppose they collect a nice little earner.
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I had to laugh when I saw that big Sam is heading to Everton, and Pardew to West Brom. This is like a giant carousel or musical chairs, with the same managers getting up from one chair, and then sitting down in another. I suppose they collect a nice little earner.
The total lack of imagination is astonishing.
Gutted WHU didn’t hang on for Pulis though.
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Well done, Hammers. Old Moysie came up trumps.
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Crystal Palace have won 3-0 away from home at Leicester. My brother must be opening the beer about now.
Edit: It's so rare for Palace to win that I forgot to include the "w" word.
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Palace winning away from home seems to have been a conversation stopper :(
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Palace winning away from home seems to have been a conversation stopper :(
Everybody is still in shock.
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Everybody is still in shock.
Long standing Charlton fans joke:
"Burglars broke into the Trophy Room at Selhurst Park last night"
"Did they steal the cups?"
No they kept out of the kitchen"
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Taxi for Hughes?
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I've always liked Sparky - for some reason, he has lost his mojo. Amazing that he was manager at City in distant days.
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Regression to the mean
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Guess who Mr January is in the Liverpool calendar for 2018? Never mind, it'll soon be February.
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I am going to guess that they were not entirely sober
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43089347
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From what I can gather the WHU/Milwall firms organise plenty of, erm, rivalry whether they are playing each other or not. But that’s the lunatic fringe. From what I can tell most WHU fans have transferred their hatred to Chelsea. Well, doesn’t everyone?
It always has been and always will be Millwall (though of course we hate everyone else) ever since the two teams formed as East End rivals. Add to that the dockers strike of 1926 and Harry Cripps's testimonial in 1972 (among other things) when Millwall got walloped by the Mile End mob, then you have all ingredients of pure hatred.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10156050004112086&id=689022085
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West Ham fans are marching on the 10th of March, taking the board to account for their false promises. Many of us reluctantly accepted to move from the Boleyn with the promise of a world class stadium with world class players. The board delivered on neither. Then there are all the local businesses which are going down the khazi as a result of the move.
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I don't know how active any of you are on social media but on Twitter and Facebook, for instance, the West Ham fanbase is in complete meltdown after yestetday's defeat and the decision by the Real West Ham Fans Action Group to pull out of the march. West Ham fans are insulting and accusing each other of this and that and the ICF are pulling ranks and saying those who still wish to march (except Bill Gardner) will not be allowed to pass through their manor because, they believe, the other protest groups have been infiltrated by ANTIFA.
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Woolworths went bust because they sold most of their real estate in favour of leasehold agreements. When in difficulties they had no assets to speak of. This is pretty much what WHU did and I do not see how the club will survive long term.
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And the owners are to blame. If we go down I really do fear the worst. Sullivan and Gold are asset stripping the club. The only upside is we'll get to play Millwall. I think the only viable longterm solution for both the club and the taxpayer is to either sell the stadium to us or to build our own stadium elsewhere. What really gets me is one of the claimed reasons we couldn't fully redevelop the Boleyn was the bus garage behind the East stand which has subsequently demolished. You couldn't make it up. This is the West Ham way. We're a joke from top to bottom.
I'm a member of the Real West Ham Fans Action Group and I back Andy Swallow and Micky Morgan, old school and I trust them.
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Could it get any worse. Palace up 2-0 against United. Wouldn't put it past those bloody Mancs to be doing it on purpose. LOL!
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The boiling pot that is the West Han fanbase finally boiled over yesterday. The club has no one to blame but itself. The owners are liars and thieves. The manager is clueless. The players are not fit to wear the shirt. Sullivan, Gold, and Brady you have ruined our club! I'm surprised there wasn't a full out riot. West Ham died the day we left the Boleyn.
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Even more so if the actions of the fans lead to relegation. Points deduction?
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Even more so if the actions of the fans lead to relegation. Points deduction?
You can't absolutely rule it out but I do think it's highly unlikely.
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Commentator tonight after the Liverpool game 'It might be snowing in March but it's like Christmas Day again for Salah'
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Commentator tonight after the Liverpool game 'It might be snowing in March but it's like Christmas Day again for Salah'
;D
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Big achievement for Gareth Bale, but the paucity of imagination used for football nicknames is dreadful.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43501828
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Big achievement for Gareth Bale, but the paucity of imagination used for football nicknames is dreadful.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43501828
Presumably Baleo is a play on Kaleo, the uber-cool Icelandic indie blues rockers.
I see this as an improvement from the days when Giggs himself played, when every nickname was created by sticking -y on the end of surnames or syllables thereof.
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Presumably Baleo is a play on Kaleo, the uber-cool Icelandic indie blues rockers.
I see this as an improvement from the days when Giggs himself played, when every nickname was created by sticking -y on the end of surnames or syllables thereof.
Indeed, though I fear that it was just to avoid being confused with someone called Bailey, obviously nicknamed Baileyy
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Indeed, though I feat that it was just to avoid being confused with someone called Bailey, obviously nicknamed Baileyy
Perhaps they should adopt WWE style nicknames. You know, things like The Arsonist, The Dead Man and the Eater of Worlds. Actually they should use the entrances too, including music, and every match should end with the opposition being hit by ladders and thrown through commentary tables.
West Ham are already exploring a collaboration with Vince McMahon.
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Perhaps they should adopt WWE style nicknames. You know, things like The Arsonist, The Dead Man and the Eater of Worlds. Actually they should use the entrances too, including music, and every match should end with the opposition being hit by ladders and thrown through commentary tables.
West Ham are already exploring a collaboration with Vince McMahon.
That was a proper lol.
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Snooker is brilliant for this. Many of the nicknames you get, Hurricane, Whirlwind, Rocket but then you get Mark Selby, a man who appears never to have knowingly been in the presence of humour, being the Jester from Leicester.
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A West Ham musical. Enjoy! 😂
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=G-WDqXSm5rQ
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being a happy hammer is a trial, let's hope we stay up this season...
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Beating Southampton helped. I reckon we could get something from the Chelsea game next weekend.
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Beating Southampton helped. I reckon we could get something from the Chelsea game next weekend.
What, another fine from the FA?
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What, another fine from the FA?
LOL! Not this time. If we play like we did on Saturday I reckon we'll have a good opportunity to tell Chelsea where they can stick their blue flag.
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He is a bit good, that Cristiano Ronaldo chappee.
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He is a bit good, that Cristiano Ronaldo chappee.
I suppose but he is a bit of a tart.
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I suppose but he is a bit of a tart.
Isn’t it said that Messi is on live with football and Ronaldo is in love with Ronaldo?
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He is a bit good, that Cristiano Ronaldo chappee.
His neck is too long.
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Funny how the press treats teams differently. Liverpool fans attack the Citeh bus and nothing, West Ham attack the Man U bus or a few fans run onto the pitch and we're all basically scum. Liverpool fans can do no wrong after Hillsborough. Funny that as you only have to go a few years earlier and see what happened at Heysel. Mickey Mousers never had any class, which is why they always loved their stanley knives.
https://twitter.com/westhamtransfer/status/981780149376110592?s=19
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Funny how the press treats teams differently. Liverpool fans attack the Citeh bus and nothing,
Nothing?
https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=manchester+city+bus+attack&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&gfe_rd=cr&dcr=0&ei=agjKWvi7N-y3tgfDqbKIBA
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There will be a two year inquiry which will go on to blame the OB.
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Soccer Aid 2018 is brilliant! A break now but then penalty. I haven't wanted to leave my chair.
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Lanzini suffered a torn cruciate ligament whilst training for the Argentina team. Likely to be out for the whole of next season. Worst case scenario is that it might end his career. Typical West Ham luck ffs.
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So, it looks like Whilshere is coming to West Ham. I'm quite excited about that.
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Wtf?
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jul/06/dimitri-payet-west-ham-marseille
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Wtf?
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jul/06/dimitri-payet-west-ham-marseille
@ExWHUEmployee (who is by far the best West Ham ITK) hinted at this a couple of days ago on The West Ham Way podcast. Personally I wouldn't want that snake back. I can't forgive him that easily.
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France looking good, Griezmann excellent. Watch his free kick and the stutter, the whole defence crash.
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So, it looks like Whilshere is coming to West Ham. I'm quite excited about that.
I hope you have better luck keeping him out of the treatment room than we did.
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I hope you have better luck keeping him out of the treatment room than we did.
72 games last two seasons ain't bad. More than any West Ham player last two. I'm not worried. And he hasn't been plagued with muscle strains, which would be a worry.