Religion and Ethics Forum
General Category => Politics & Current Affairs => Topic started by: Walt Zingmatilder on August 22, 2017, 06:45:48 AM
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Case for heterosexual civil partnerships to go before Supreme Court.
Source:BBC news.
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See here. I hope it is successful but doubt it will be similar to the case in that tried to get gay marriage recognised in Northern Ireland, I suspect the judgeswill be loathe to effectively extend legislation in this way.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41004378
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Case for heterosexual civil partnerships to go before Supreme Court.
Source:BBC news.
Good news - I hope it is successful.
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I understand that some hetero people want to enter a civil partnership and not marry, but I'm not sure why. Could someone lay out the more common reasons for me ?
Ta lots
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I understand that some hetero people want to enter a civil partnership and not marry, but I'm not sure why. Could someone lay out the more common reasons for me ?
Ta lots
Never mind. Googled it:
Legal and financial protection for both parties in the event of the relationship ending
It is free of the religious connotations of marriage
Some object to marriage as an institution and its associations with property and patriarchy
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Good news - I hope it is successful.
So do I.
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Heterosexual civil partnerships are legal on the IoM. They are popular with English couples.
I hope the law changes. If I were ever faced with the choice I'd opt for a CP over marriage any day.
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Never mind. Googled it:
Legal and financial protection for both parties in the event of the relationship ending
It is free of the religious connotations of marriage
Some object to marriage as an institution and its associations with property and patriarchy
The article says that some couples want to avoid the religious connotations of marriage, but in civil marriage (now accounting for at least two thirds of all marriages in the UK) there aren't any, by law. So I don't quite get that argument.
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The article says that some couples want to avoid the religious connotations of marriage, but in civil marriage (now accounting for at least two thirds of all marriages in the UK) there aren't any, by law. So I don't quite get that argument.
I expect some couples face pressure to marry from religious family members. Otherwise, neither do I. Perhaps it's the vows or something?
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I expect some couples face pressure to marry from religious family members. Otherwise, neither do I. Perhaps it's the vows or something?
Is there a prepared script you have to follow? Can't you write your own?
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Is there a prepared script you have to follow? Can't you write your own?
Registry offices have a script. But vows are vows and taken in front of witnesses may feel a bit 'religious'. Maybe that has something to do with it? Dunno.
I like the idea of making promises on a hill top, letting the wind take them where they will. Not much help with pension and property rights though.
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Registry offices have a script. But vows are vows and taken in front of witnesses may feel a bit 'religious'. Maybe that has something to do with it? Dunno.
I like the idea of making promises on a hill top, letting the wind take them where they will. Not much help with pension and property rights though.
Not in England and Wales at any rate.
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I once talked to a woman on a MB who lost her husband very suddenly on holiday in Portugal. She was told that had they not been married the authorities there would have insisted on dealing with his parents. No idea if that's law or tradition but there we are.
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Some on this thread seem to be suggesting that straights should just be happy with civil marriage.
Enemies of equality?
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Some on this thread seem to be suggesting that straights should just be happy with civil marriage.
Who and where?
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Some on this thread seem to be suggesting that straights should just be happy with civil marriage.
Enemies of equality?
You have an impressively vivid imagination.
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Some on this thread seem to be suggesting that straights should just be happy with civil marriage.
Enemies of equality?
What are you talking about?
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What are you talking about?
He doesn't know.
Despite being told repeatedly by most posters on here that they agree with the idea of CP's for heterosexuals he still bangs on to try to prove it is some militant, secularist antitheist plot.
When it reality it is simply that the government can't be arsed to do anything about this as they don't see it as a priority.
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It doesn't matter why any couple should want a particular kind of legal partnership; if it is available for some, it must be available to all.
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Good news - I hope it is successful.
Agreed.
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Case for heterosexual civil partnerships to go before Supreme Court.
Source:BBC news.
Blooming ridiculous.
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Blooming ridiculous.
Why?
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Why?
Come pn, Floo! You know why!
Because the Bible says you have to be married by a religious service in the face of God or you are living in mortal sin and if you think your mother-in-law is bad, wait 'til you get to Hell and find out what God has in store for your sinful arse.
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Come pn, Floo! You know why!
Because the Bible says you have to be married by a religious service in the face of God or you are living in mortal sin and if you think your mother-in-law is bad, wait 'til you get to Hell and find out what God has in store for your sinful arse.
God didn't marry Mary it got her up the duff, when she was engaged to Joseph!
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God didn't marry Mary it got her up the duff, when she was engaged to Joseph!
Oh such refinement in your posting ;)
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God didn't marry Mary it got her up the duff, when she was engaged to Joseph!
And she was only 13 at the time - if it had happened in Rochdale it would be in prison now.
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And she was only 13 at the time - if it had happened in Rochdale it would be in prison now.
True.
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I didn't know Mary was 13, only that she was considerably youngerthan Joseph. We don't know her precise age but seems she could have been thirteen when she was betrothed to Joseph. Her age is asked frequently, I googled & came up with much info. Some 'religious', naturally enough, but some of it also quite informaative regarding the customs of that period. This one for example:-
http://www.truthortradition.com/articles/mary-a-teenage-bride-and-mother
Children used to be married off at very young ages in this country at one time, especially those from 'noble houses'. Could be widowed before reaching puberty!
Until recent years the age of consent in Ireland was 14& is 14 or 15 for some European countries. It's been seventeen for quite a while now in Ireland, older than most other places.
Returning to the subject of civil partnerships for heterosexual couples, i don't see the point but I do get what Rhiannon says about solemn, public vows. In which case why not live together & make private commitment? Plenty do. If a couple own a house jointly in both names & one dies, the other gets their half. Reading up on my own pensions, one of which I'' get at 60, the other 65, I can name anyone to receive it if I die, doesn't have to be a husband. As for other property, like car & jewellery, I can make a will.
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It's not just inheritance rights.
https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/family/living-together-marriage-and-civil-partnership/living-together-and-marriage-legal-differences/
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If I die before my husband all my assets go to my children, on the understanding they will ensure my husband is properly cared for until he too dies.
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Oh such refinement in your posting ;)
Floo is aiming at a specific audience posting here who have little time for subtlties!
No names, no pack-drill!