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General Category => Politics & Current Affairs => Topic started by: Nearly Sane on September 18, 2017, 06:46:17 PM

Title: Endarkenment continues
Post by: Nearly Sane on September 18, 2017, 06:46:17 PM: Holy war, Ataturk!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41296714
Title: Re: Endarkenment continues
Post by: Humph Warden Bennett on September 19, 2017, 04:23:18 PM: Quote from: Nearly Sane on September 18, 2017, 06:46:17 PM
Holy war, Ataturk!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41296714

Depressing news :-(
Title: Re: Endarkenment continues
Post by: Nearly Sane on September 19, 2017, 05:15:06 PM: Quote from: Humph Warden Bennett on September 19, 2017, 04:23:18 PM
Depressing news :-(

It is indeed, Humph. Orhan Pamuk wa on Channel 4 news last night and you can't help but wonder how much danger he might be in.
Title: Re: Endarkenment continues
Post by: Walter on September 19, 2017, 06:25:50 PM: Quote from: Nearly Sane on September 18, 2017, 06:46:17 PM
Holy war, Ataturk!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41296714
how long does the rational world have to put up with these Muslim idiots ? they are a greater threat to civilisation than global climate change.
Title: Re: Endarkenment continues
Post by: Nearly Sane on September 19, 2017, 06:28:35 PM: Quote from: Walter on September 19, 2017, 06:25:50 PM
how long does the rational world have to put up with these Muslim idiots ? they are a greater threat to civilisation than global climate change.
How do you suggest not 'putting up with' a belief system?
Title: Re: Endarkenment continues
Post by: Walter on September 19, 2017, 06:31:08 PM: Quote from: Nearly Sane on September 19, 2017, 06:28:35 PM
How do you suggest not 'putting up with' a belief system?
I don't want you to ban me NS , so speculate to your hearts content .
Title: Re: Endarkenment continues
Post by: Nearly Sane on September 19, 2017, 06:33:53 PM: Quote from: Walter on September 19, 2017, 06:31:08 PM
I don't want you to ban me NS , so speculate to your hearts content .
Why would you get banned for rational well thought out options?

BTW this rational world that you say exists, where is it?
Title: Re: Endarkenment continues
Post by: Walter on September 19, 2017, 06:35:34 PM: Quote from: Nearly Sane on September 19, 2017, 06:33:53 PM
Why would you get banned for rational well thought out options?

BTW this rational world that you say exists, where is it?
are you kidding !
Title: Re: Endarkenment continues
Post by: wigginhall on September 20, 2017, 02:18:53 PM: The trouble is, we are both rational and irrational, and well, non-rational as well, I guess. Therefore when we see irrationality in others, it tends to elicit our own irrational reactions, hence war. I suppose the traditional rational approaches are via education and persuasion. If those fail, there is always violence.
Title: Re: Endarkenment continues
Post by: Walter on September 20, 2017, 03:55:13 PM: Quote from: wigginhall on September 20, 2017, 02:18:53 PM
The trouble is, we are both rational and irrational, and well, non-rational as well, I guess. Therefore when we see irrationality in others, it tends to elicit our own irrational reactions, hence war. I suppose the traditional rational approaches are via education and persuasion. If those fail, there is always violence.
A strongly worded letter to the Times should do it !
Title: Re: Endarkenment continues
Post by: Humph Warden Bennett on September 20, 2017, 04:14:56 PM: Quote from: Nearly Sane on September 19, 2017, 05:15:06 PM
It is indeed, Humph. Orhan Pamuk wa on Channel 4 news last night and you can't help but wonder how much danger he might be in.

Do you remember the Turkish coup of 1980? As I remember this was one of the few military takeovers in history that perhaps the majority of the population actually supported.