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General Category => Politics & Current Affairs => Topic started by: Nearly Sane on September 28, 2017, 05:25:52 AM
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This sort of thing thing can bring companies down. The previous issue would have been survivable but this is something that could undermine them because of the creation of an expectation that flight lines get cancelled.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41419580
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We flew with Ryanair about 15 years ago, never again, we were not impressed with its performance. It seems to have got much worse as the years have gone by.
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This sort of thing thing can bring companies down. The previous issue would have been survivable but this is something that could undermine them because of the creation of an expectation that flight lines get cancelled.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41419580
Three points:
1. Ryanair are a disgrace - simply cancelling so many services when people have already booked because they aren't able to manage their business property is simply appalling.
2. We seem to have a significant number of Scottish posters here and sometimes they seem astonishingly parochial - this being a case in point. Ryanair cancel 34 services, of those only 5 involve a Scottish destination yet apparently the response is 'Ryanair cancels Christmas in Scotland' :o
And, I think, all but one of those five services are directly offered by other carriers. So unless you are wanting to travel from Edinburgh to Szczecin you have plenty of other options.
It would be more appropriate to claim that 'Ryanair cancels Christmas in Sicily' as there are more cancelled services just to Trapani than the whole of Scotland.
3. To reiterate - Ryanair are useless.
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Three points:
1. Ryanair are a disgrace - simply cancelling so many services when people have already booked because they aren't able to manage their business property is simply appalling.
2. We seem to have a significant number of Scottish posters here and sometimes they seem astonishingly parochial - this being a case in point. Ryanair cancel 34 services, of those only 5 involve a Scottish destination yet apparently the response is 'Ryanair cancels Christmas in Scotland' :o
And, I think, all but one of those five services are directly offered by other carriers. So unless you are wanting to travel from Edinburgh to Szczecin you have plenty of other options.
It would be more appropriate to claim that 'Ryanair cancels Christmas in Sicily' as there are more cancelled services just to Trapani than the whole of Scotland.
3. To reiterate - Ryanair are useless.
I take it if someone in Tipperary actually sings 'It's a long way to Tipperary', you would just have to tell them that it definitely isn't. It was a title to introduce a topic. You need to stop getting emotional about throwaway lines.
I do wonder if Michael O'Leary might be in the running for Green Business Person of the year for his work in reducing air travel.
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My son flew Barcelona to Stansted last weekend then Stansted to Madrid earlier this week all Ryanair. One 20 minute delay leaving from Stansted, despite all the other Ryanair chaos.
Can't really complain as the flights were (iirc) £14 and £9 respectively.
Ryanair are certainly crap, but doesn't mean they can't be useful or that the chaos is helping with reducing any emissions.
As an aside I remember flying Kabul/London on a battered Aeroflot 707 in the '70s - must be the worst flight I've ever taken.
As an aside to the aside: Looking back I recall I sat with an Iraqi and had an depth discussion about the history of Iraq, and he was really proud of how they had managed to pull together a united nation - this was just a few years before Saddam!
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The problem for Ryanair is surely that while people were willing for it to be not the greatest experience for the generally very cheap money, the publicity of this undermines whether they are reliable and competent. Given that the airline industry is both competive and not hugely profitabkdy, a small downturn could have a big impact on them.
Combine that with the growth in demand for pilots and the impact of them being 'glorified taxi drivers' according to O'Leary and what was s piece of management incompetence could have many other effects.
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We flew with Ryanair about 15 years ago, never again, we were not impressed with its performance. It seems to have got much worse as the years have gone by.
no one cares what you did 15 years ago , or even yesterday. I am not impressed by your comment .
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The problem for Ryanair is surely that while people were willing for it to be not the greatest experience for the generally very cheap money, the publicity of this undermines whether they are reliable and competent. Given that the airline industry is both competive and not hugely profitabkdy, a small downturn could have a big impact on them.
Combine that with the growth in demand for pilots and the impact of them being 'glorified taxi drivers' according to O'Leary and what was s piece of management incompetence could have many other effects.
unless a pilot is engaged in battle they ARE glorified taxi drivers . Human pilots are no longer required anyway, surplus to requirement ,they exist only to make passengers feel better .
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The problem for Ryanair is surely that while people were willing for it to be not the greatest experience for the generally very cheap money, the publicity of this undermines whether they are reliable and competent. Given that the airline industry is both competive and not hugely profitabkdy, a small downturn could have a big impact on them.
Combine that with the growth in demand for pilots and the impact of them being 'glorified taxi drivers' according to O'Leary and what was s piece of management incompetence could have many other effects.
Ryanair could come out badly, but we have had plenty of airlines, especially low cost ones, go under before.
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Ryanair could come out badly, but we have had plenty of airlines, especially low cost ones, go under before.
Really , I didn't know that.
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Ryanair could come out badly, but we have had plenty of airlines, especially low cost ones, go under before.
That's rather the point. It's a very high turnover business.
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It was a title to introduce a topic.
Indeed.
The topic being that Ryanair (did I say they are useless) have cancelled 34 services, so therefore a total of 68 destinations, of which just 5 are in Scotland.
To introduce such a topic with:
'Ryanair cancels Christmas in Scotland'
Shows levels of parochialism rarely seen since:
'Fog in channel; Europe cut off'
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That's rather the point. It's a very high turnover business.
no! , what are you saying? have I been duped? , I refuse to believe it . So are you saying Moby Dick really is a book and NOT a medical condition down the clap clinic?
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Indeed.
The topic being that Ryanair (did I say they are useless) have cancelled 34 services, so therefore a total of 68 destinations, of which just 5 are in Scotland.
To introduce such a topic with:
'Ryanair cancels Christmas in Scotland'
Shows levels of parochialism rarely seen since:
'Fog in channel; Europe cut off'
Is there a paper bag you can breath into? Or even try counting to ten? Whatever you need to do to relax about throwaway lines in titles to introduce a topic. Worried about you, hun!
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no! , what are you saying? have I been duped? , I refuse to believe it . So are you saying Moby Dick really is a book and NOT a medical condition down the clap clinic?
And here was me thinking that was how you advertised yourself till the ASA intervened.
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Is there a paper bag you can breath into? Or even try counting to ten? Whatever you need to do to relax about throwaway lines in titles to introduce a topic. Worried about you, hun!
NOPE , perfectly alright mate , there is a mental state , I think its in the USA somewhere , that I might be accepted in.
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Is there a paper bag you can breath into? Or even try counting to ten? Whatever you need to do to relax about throwaway lines in titles to introduce a topic. Worried about you, hun!
I'm absolutely fine NS.
Just a tad concerned about your parochialism - perhaps you need to get out a little more. And of course your thread subject completely misrepresents the contents of your link. I thought you took a rather dim view of people misrepresenting what is written in BBC news links in their posts. Or is that a criticism you only throw at others, but ignore yourself.
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NOPE , perfectly alright mate , there is a mental state , I think its in the USA somewhere , that I might be accepted in.
Not worried about you! At least not today. It's poor Prof D and his hyperventilating about throwaway lines that I am thinking we might need a telethon for.
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I'm absolutely fine NS.
Just a tad concerned about your parochialism - perhaps you need to get out a little more. And of course your thread subject completely misrepresents the contents of your link. I thought you took a rather dim view of people misrepresenting what is written in BBC news links in their posts. Or is that a criticism you only throw at others, but ignore yourself.
I suspect NS had his tongue firmly in his cheek, Prof.
Lighten up.
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Not worried about you! At least not today. It's poor Prof D and his hyperventilating about throwaway lines that I am thinking we might need a telethon for.
No hyperventilating around here - just pointing out that the issue does not disproportionately, let alone predominantly affect Scotland. And to imply it does - as indicated in your thread subject - completely misrepresents the nature of the issue, and also demonstrates a rather worrying tendency for parochialism. And not for the first time sadly.
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I'm absolutely fine NS.
Just a tad concerned about your parochialism - perhaps you need to get out a little more. And of course your thread subject completely misrepresents the contents of your link. I thought you took a rather dim view of people misrepresenting what is written in BBC news links in their posts. Or is that a criticism you only throw at others, but ignore yourself.
I've got the number of a really good stress management company, which you appear to need. It's 077788899779960. Just call and ask for Black Bob and his big black dog, and say you need the special stuff. I do have to warn you that he is inclined to use figures of speech and, unfortunately for you a sense of humour. But the 'treatment' is really good - I think you want the blue pills..
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No hyperventilating around here - just pointing out that the issue does not disproportionately, let alone predominantly affect Scotland. And to imply it does - as indicated in your thread subject - completely misrepresents the nature of the issue, and also demonstrates a rather worrying tendency for parochialism. And not for the first time sadly.
I forgive you
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Meant to say that I'm all in favour of cancelling Christmas: so if Ryanair have the Santa route on their books perhaps they could add that one to the other 34.
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On a more serious note, it looks like the CAA have now required Ryanair to comply with their responsibilities.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41435013
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I forgive you
Blimey - patronising as well as parochial.
Are you trying to get the full set of 'p' adjectives? ;)
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Blimey - patronising as well as parochial.
Are you trying to get the full set of 'p' adjectives? ;)
You still haven't phoned Black Bob, have you?
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You still haven't phoned Black Bob, have you?
A post of Vlad-eque levels of incomprehensibilty.
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It was a title to introduce a topic.
it was kind of click baity.
I only clicked on the topic because I was curious to find how an airline could cancel Christmas in a whole country. Turns out it was not true. Ryanair haven't cancelled Christmas, only flights.
As for that, Ryanair is known for having the cheapest fares and they do it by cutting costs to the bone. As soon as anything goes wrong, they are going to be in trouble. However, when faced with a choice between a cheap flight with lousy service and a more expensive flight with better service, many people vote with their wallets. Well that's fine, but don't complain when this sort of thing happens.
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A post of Vlad-eque levels of incomprehensibilty.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladek_Sheybal?
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it was kind of click baity.
I only clicked on the topic because I was curious to find how an airline could cancel Christmas in a whole country. Turns out it was not true. Ryanair haven't cancelled Christmas, only flights.
As for that, Ryanair is known for having the cheapest fares and they do it by cutting costs to the bone. As soon as anything goes wrong, they are going to be in trouble. However, when faced with a choice between a cheap flight with lousy service and a more expensive flight with better service, many people vote with their wallets. Well that's fine, but don't complain when this sort of thing happens.
I think there is a basic assumption that service includes the actual flight, and suggesting that people have no right to complain when there is no flight is odd
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladek_Sheybal?
Still completely incomprehensible - what has this guy got to do with anything, and who is Black Bob.
Still playing at being Vlad my parochial chum?
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it was kind of click baity.
I only clicked on the topic because I was curious to find how an airline could cancel Christmas in a whole country. Turns out it was not true. Ryanair haven't cancelled Christmas, only flights.
Indeed NS's thread title completely misrepresents the article he links to and, indeed, the whole issue.
And that's from a guy that spent days complaining about people misrepresenting an article on an issue that was entirely focussed on Scotland.
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Indeed NS's thread title completely misrepresents the article he links to and, indeed, the whole issue.
And that's from a guy that spent days complaining about people misrepresenting an article on an issue that was entirely focussed on Scotland.
It's called hyperbole. It's a thing called a figure of speech. It's a lighthearted headline. I understand that you are struggling with this. You need to have quiet time, some warm milk and a biscuit, probably a rich tea.
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Still completely incomprehensible - what has this guy got to do with anything, and who is Black Bob.
Still playing at being Vlad my parochial chum?
Just a little play on your typo.
As for the renowned Black Bob, see reply #20.
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It's called hyperbole. It's a thing called a figure of speech.
Exactly the sorts of things you laid into all sorts of posters about on the Scottish child abuse thread. So OK for you to use hyperbole and misrepresentation, but not for others eh - there's a word for that, sadly doesn't begin with 'p'.
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Just a little play on your typo.
I think most of us here understand who I meant when I used the term 'Vlad'.
As for the renowned Black Bob, see reply #20.
Renowned to whom? Never heard of the chap.
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As for the renowned Black Bob, see reply #20.
Just read that post - the likeness to Vlad is becoming uncanny. Has he hacked in to your account.
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I think most of us here understand who I meant when I used the term 'Vlad'.
Renowned to whom? Never heard of the chap..
Did you read reply #20? If you did and you are still struggling, can I suggest you find someone who has this odd thing called a 'sense of humour' and who understands figurative language and get them to talk you through it s-l-ow-l-y.
And yes, I understood you meant our Vlad but was given you had missed a 's' out was punning on it sounding like the first name of the estimable Mr Vladek Sheybal.
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Did you read reply #20? If you did and you are still struggling, can I suggest you find someone who has this odd thing called a 'sense of humour' and who understands figurative language and get them to talk you through it s-l-ow-l-y.
Pure Vlad - and he too seems pretty unaware when he is being wound up.
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And yes, I understood you meant our Vlad but was given you had missed a 's' out was punning on it sounding like the first name of the estimable Mr Vladek Sheybal.
Blimey and you are the one accusing me of failing to have a 'sense of humour' - 'pot/kettle' - look that beings with 'p' too. Don't need to use the 'h'-word at all.
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Pure Vlad - and he too seems pretty unaware when he is being wound up.
I can thank you for letting me know how Dennis Healey felt when he used the phrase 'savaged by a dead sheep'
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I wonder if Ryanair will go into administration, I can't see too many people queuing up to fly with them?
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Blimey and you are the one accusing me of failing to have a 'sense of humour' - 'pot/kettle' - look that beings with 'p' too. Don't need to use the 'h'-word at all.
It's not an accusation, darling, simply, stating a fact. Anyway do you have anything to say about Ryanair? Is this a step too far, or will people stay with them?
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I wonder if Ryanair will go into administration, I can't see too many people queuing up to fly with them?
oh you, and your pesky talking about the topic!
I think most people go with the cheapest flight available on the route, but the loss of reputation in actually delivering flights must be significant. Given the margins in airlines, it wouldn't take that much.
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oh you, and your pesky talking about the topic!
I think most people go with the cheapest flight available on the route, but the loss of reputation in actually delivering flights must be significant. Given the margins in airlines, it wouldn't taket that much.
:P
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We flew with Ryanair about 15 years ago, never again, we were not impressed with its performance. It seems to have got much worse as the years have gone by.
I use Ryanair two or three times a year. For what is effectively a bus service, I find them entirely satisfactory. If nothing else, the aircraft they use are modern and are purchased directly from Boeing. I recall flying with BMIbaby and finding out that my aircraft had been about 15 years old and had three previous owners.
To be fair to Ryanair, their service and performance has improved considerably over the last few years. However, if you are not fortunate, on some flights which arrive at their destination on time they still play their bloody "Another on time arrival for RYANAIR" fanfare.
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Anyway do you have anything to say about Ryanair? Is this a step too far, or will people stay with them?
I suspect Ryanair have misjudged this badly.
The starting point issue of pilots would have increased costs and therefore made some currently marginally profitable routes unprofitable. I think Ryanair calculated that by cutting some routes, presumably the least profitable, they might actually cut losses. The thinking being that they'd scrap a route that would otherwise now be losing money and all they'd have to give back was the cost the customer paid to Ryanair.
What they clearly seemed to have failed to understand is that their obligation goes beyond giving money back, but to booking customers onto alternative flights, likely to be with other providers and at much greater cost. That is going to be extremely costly and I hope passengers hold firm in demanding their legal right to be booked on an alternative flight.
There will now also be reputation all damage, meaning less bookings, which will make further flights unprofitable potentially leading to a kind of chain reaction.
I wouldn't be surprised if we see the whole company collapsing as their business model is based in flights being effectively full as the first block of tickets see sold at a loss only the last few generate the profit.
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I can thank you for letting me know how Dennis Healey felt when he used the phrase 'savaged by a dead sheep'
NS , I think you do a great job in keeping this message board alive . Probably top of the list of thread starters , more power to you mate !!! :D :D :D
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I can thank you for letting me know how Dennis Healey felt when he used the phrase 'savaged by a dead sheep'
But Dennis Healey was an intellectual heavyweight and often rather humorous.
Reminds me of another famous quote - this one from Lloyd Bentsen😉
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Ryanair are notoriously bad employers.
FWIW I would rather pay forty squid with Easy Jet than twenty squid with Ryanair.
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One thing that the story has made clear that I hadn't really appreciated is quite how big Ryanair are. Market capitalisation of nearly 20bn Euros, the fifth biggest airline in terms of passengers and the biggest airline in terms of international passengers.
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Where does Ryanair stand in terms of passenger/miles?
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Where does Ryanair stand in terms of passenger/miles?
I don't know but in terms of passenger/smiles, the answer might be quite low!
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Where does Ryanair stand in terms of passenger/miles?
at the end of the runway? ;)
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I think there is a basic assumption that service includes the actual flight, and suggesting that people have no right to complain when there is no flight is odd
By “complain” I meant whine about it on Internet forums. This is orthogonal to your right to complain to their airline when they don’t provide the service they contracted for.
Of course, you even have a right to whine on Internet forums if you like (and I never suggested that you don’t), just don’t expect me to flock to your cause. Ryanair is well known for treating its customers with contempt. They cut costs to the bone gambling that people will still flock to them because they are cheap. But you get what you pay for. Cheap service means bad service. If you don’t understand that, you do not have my sympathy.
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By “complain” I meant whine about it on Internet forums. This is orthogonal to your right to complain to their airline when they don’t provide the service they contracted for.
Of course, you even have a right to whine on Internet forums if you like (and I never suggested that you don’t), just don’t expect me to flock to your cause. Ryanair is well known for treating its customers with contempt. They cut costs to the bone gambling that people will still flock to them because they are cheap. But you get what you pay for. Cheap service means bad service. If you don’t understand that, you do not have my sympathy.
c'mon , you could have got a few more clichés in there , surely.
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... Ryanair is well known for treating its customers with contempt. ... But you get what you pay for. Cheap service means bad service ...
As someone who uses Ryanair two or three times a year, I would be interested to know when you last used the company?
How would you differentiate Ryanair from British Airways on short-haul services?
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How would you differentiate Ryanair from British Airways on short-haul services?
Well for a start if BA cancels a flight they will book you onto an alternative as they are required to do by law. Ryanair are failing to do that and telling passengers on cancelled flights that the passenger has to pay the extra for an alternative flight and claim off their travel insurance.
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Well for a start if BA cancels a flight they will book you onto an alternative as they are required to do by law. Ryanair are failing to do that and telling passengers on cancelled flights that the passenger has to pay the extra for an alternative flight and claim off their travel insurance.
we only want emotionally charged opinions here , no facts please :o
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we only want emotionally charged opinions here , no facts please :o
By the way I think BA are pretty useless too, but at least they comply with their legal responsibilities.
And I know this for a fact as my wife had the most unfortunate experience of having her BA flight to Edinburgh cancelled last Friday morning. She was going to a funeral and missed it. However BA offered her a seat on a later flight on the day. No good as it would have got her to Edinburgh long after the funeral had finished and just in time to check in to return. But at least they offered to book on another flight, and did so automatically.
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By the way I think BA are pretty useless too, but at least they comply with their legal responsibilities.
Well, BA did not comply with their legal responsibilities with me in respect of extraordinary conditions on 24 December 2013 at Gatwick. As it happens I did not want financial compensation, just an apology for their lack of concern for the needs of their customers.
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Well, BA did not comply with their legal responsibilities with me in respect of extraordinary conditions on 24 December 2013 at Gatwick. As it happens I did not want financial compensation, just an apology for their lack of concern for the needs of their customers.
No idea whether they broke their regulatory requirement in your case. However, worth noting that the current rules don't apply if the reason that the flight is cancelled is clearly outside the control of the airline, such as weather conditions or air traffic control disputes etc.
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Well, BA did not comply with their legal responsibilities with me in respect of extraordinary conditions on 24 December 2013 at Gatwick. As it happens I did not want financial compensation, just an apology for their lack of concern for the needs of their customers.
I've no idea how you were treated by BA on that day - presumably badly.
However a quick bit of googling reveals the problem that day to have been massive power outage due to flooding - clearly not something that an airline can be held responsible for. As such their responsibilities would be much more limited under the regulations, and certainly wouldn't extend to a requirement to transfer passengers to a different flight operated by another carrier.
And surely you can see that there is a world of difference between a flight being cancelled due to a completely unforeseen power outage at the airport and the deliberate decision by a company to cancel thousands of flights.
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One day earlier, weather conditions resulted in the cancellation of my flight as I was boarding the aircraft. BA provided accommodation and rebooked me for 18.00 the following day. So far so good.
The following morning Gatwick North Terminal was closed due to an underground switching room being flooded. In the ensuing chaos just about all EasyJet flights were cancelled. Some other carriers were able to switch their services to the unaffected South Terminal. I was told that my flight, a domestic service, may be slightly delayed. I eventually boarded the flight at 22.20 - a delay of more than four hours. At no time was I given any indication of the possible delay the only instruction to passengers was: "Keep your eyes on the Departures screen." This meant that I could not contemplate having any food because I might miss the boarding call. There were no BA staff anywhere in the departure lounge, only screens. There were two armed police officers (one rather bad tempered) wandering around an area containing mainly families and middle aged and elderly people trying to get to their relatives for Christmas.
The EU flight delay regulations (which date from 2004) could have provided maximum compensation for delays of more than four hours. When I made my claim I was told that I was not eligible because the aircraft scheduled for my flight had suffered damage and had to be repaired. As I said, I did not want compensation, merely an acceptance that customer care had been appalling. Since this was Christmas Eve it is inconceivable that short-haul aircraft (Boeing 737, Airbus A219) would not be available since the following day would see most such services shut down. Had I have been insistent, I could have presented my case via the CAA.
I later was asked to report my observations to the House of Commons Transport Select Committee. I did so and some of my observations were referred to in the Committee's report on Winter Transport Resiliance with respect to events at Gatwick Airport.
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One day earlier, weather conditions resulted in the cancellation of my flight as I was boarding the aircraft. BA provided accommodation and rebooked me for 18.00 the following day. So far so good.
The following morning Gatwick North Terminal was closed due to an underground switching room being flooded. In the ensuing chaos just about all EasyJet flights were cancelled. Some other carriers were able to switch their services to the unaffected South Terminal. I was told that my flight, a domestic service, may be slightly delayed. I eventually boarded the flight at 22.20 - a delay of more than four hours. At no time was I given any indication of the possible delay the only instruction to passengers was: "Keep your eyes on the Departures screen." This meant that I could not contemplate having any food because I might miss the boarding call. There were no BA staff anywhere in the departure lounge, only screens. There were two armed police officers (one rather bad tempered) wandering around an area containing mainly families and middle aged and elderly people trying to get to their relatives for Christmas.
The EU flight delay regulations (which date from 2004) could have provided maximum compensation for delays of more than four hours. When I made my claim I was told that I was not eligible because the aircraft scheduled for my flight had suffered damage and had to be repaired. As I said, I did not want compensation, merely an acceptance that customer care had been appalling. Since this was Christmas Eve it is inconceivable that short-haul aircraft (Boeing 737, Airbus A219) would not be available since the following day would see most such services shut down. Had I have been insistent, I could have presented my case via the CAA.
I later was asked to report my observations to the House of Commons Transport Select Committee. I did so and some of my observations were referred to in the Committee's report on Winter Transport Resiliance with respect to events at Gatwick Airport.
Thanks for sharing and sounds like an awful experience which could have been handled far better by BA.
That said you have confirmed two things - first that the primary problem was, as I thought, flooding leading to power loss - clearly something not in the control of BA. And in those circumstances the obligations on an airline are reduced compared to a situation completely of the airline's own making, as is the case for Ryanair.
Secondly that BA rebooked you onto a later flight in the first cancellation situation due to bad weather. This is what Ryanair are claiming they have no obligation to do telling passengers it is for them to rebook and claim any additional costs from their travel insurance. Ryanair only came clean with passengers about their rights when forced to do so by the CAA under threat of legal action.
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Monarch have gone under... Ryanair to follow?
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Monarch have gone under... Ryanair to follow?
Makes it less likely for ryanair to go. Their share price is up 3% oj this news
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Makes it less likely for ryanair to go. Their share price is up 3% oj this news
That seems likely - Ryanair has lost a competitor so that is likely to shore up their business somewhat.
Whether it is sufficient may depend on the costs associated with complying with the CAA's ruling and the possibility of legal action.
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One commentator I heard suggested that Monarch's departure would help Ryanair solve its pilot problems.
Ryanair use Boeing 737, Monarch Airbus A320 so any pilots would have to be converted.
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As someone who uses Ryanair two or three times a year, I would be interested to know when you last used the company?
How would you differentiate Ryanair from British Airways on short-haul services?
British Airways has enough pilots not to have to cancel thousands of flights.
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Talking of pilots. Here is one explaining how it is with Ryanair.
http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nick-ferrari/furious-ryanair-pilot-calls-lbc-on-working/
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Talking of pilots. Here is one explaining how it is with Ryanair.
http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nick-ferrari/furious-ryanair-pilot-calls-lbc-on-working/
If that is true it is a wonder any pilot would ever consider working for that company.