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General Category => Literature, Music, Art & Entertainment => Topic started by: Robbie on September 30, 2017, 06:12:41 PM
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As I was on holiday last Saturday I watched last week's this afternoon.
I know there are other fans on here.
Looking forward to tonight's show, in approximately thirty-five minutes.
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As I was on holiday last Saturday I watched last week's this afternoon.
I know there are other fans on here.
Looking forward to tonight's show, in approximately thirty-five minutes.
me too, I've even got my sparkly dress on.
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Good show. I do not like the new judge's judging.
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I loved last nilght's show, better than the one before tho' felt perhaps I was not in the mood too much for the previous one which was why I was less excited. Realy like Shirley, the new 'Head Judge'. Hope no-one is comparing her to lovely Len Goodman, they are different.
So much good stuff! Alexandra Burke was particularly amazing but many of them were excellent.
I know who is out but won't post spoiler.
Always feel sorry for first one out, wish they could do it differently, get rid of four first time around for example but they'd have to make adjustments to the show.
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Well, I continue to disagree about the new judge. When she is talking to the contestants, she is not even sitting up straight! She's sort of all curled up. She does not have an air of authority.
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My husband and I have no interest in 'Strictly' it is mega boring, it is such a pity it infests BBC1 on a Saturday night, for so long!
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My husband and I have no interest in 'Strictly' it is mega boring, it is such a pity it infests BBC1 on a Saturday night, for so long!
Possibly not the thread for you.
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I watch it vicariously through Gogglebox.
Actually Gogglebox is really useful for following programmes that you want to know about but can't be bothered to watch. See also Line of Duty and Dr Foster.
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Possibly not the thread for you.
Definitely not. I have never danced or been to a dance in my life, or ever wanted to, neither has my husband. No doubt that just ratchets up my weirdness some more. ;D
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Floo, this definitely is not the thread for you!
It is for 'Strictly' fans. 'Strictly' is a great show for men, women and children everywhere! Great fun, beautiful and exciting, sad at times. The best Saturday night telly I've known. If I'm out on a Sat night I watch it late or the next day, not to be missed - but each to their own.
(I know who is the first out.)
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Definitely not. I have never danced or been to a dance in my life, or ever wanted to, neither has my husband. No doubt that just ratchets up my weirdness some more. ;D
nope , that's not weirdness . It's a life sentence for your husband . Did you say you have kids?
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I eemember floo saying previously that she didn't like music so it follows she wouldn't like SCD. Pointless her posting on this thread.
Most of us do and many have become interested because of SCD, all ages and sexes. I love it!
Shirley is not Len but I was determined not to think about Len yesterday. Give her time, she'll grow into the role I hope.
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I eemember floo saying previously that she didn't like music so it follows she wouldn't like SCD. Pointless her posting on this thread.
Most of us do and many have become interested because of SCD, all ages and sexes. I love it!
Shirley is not Len but I was determined not to think about Len yesterday. Give her time, she'll grow into the role I hope.
Len Goodman actually put me off watching the show ,with his cockney accent and speech impediment
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He doesn't sound cockney; though born in the East End he spent the bulk of his life on the edge of SE London and his accent sounds SE London. It's not a particularly attractive accent. I work in an area on the edge of Bromley where many older people speak like Len but less clear, the younger ones do likewise but with added inflections. I must say I never noticed Len's speech impediment.
I really liked Len as Head Judge but I think Shirley Ballas is very nice, don't want to 'judge' her yet.. She looks like someone I know or have known and I can't work out whom which bugs me! Her Merseyside accent is not very pronounced so no-one is likely to object to that.
When I was awake during the night I watched the beginning of last night's result show, which I'd missed. I muted it so as not to disturb the old man. Seeing the professional dancers doing their group dance, bowling, was quite funny without sound!
Gutted for the lovely Chizzy but I thought the dance off would be between her and Brian and on the day, he was marginally better. I hate the way one always has to go first, wish the producers would find some other way.
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My husband and I have no interest in 'Strictly' it is mega boring, it is such a pity it infests BBC1 on a Saturday night, for so long!
I also have no interest whatsoever in Strictly. This means that, when I see a thread about it, I don't normally comment.
I have made an exception here because, one of the most irritating things I find about Internet forums is the people who go on topic X for the sole reason of declaring they have no interest on topic X. Why? Why would you do that? Why not just read the threads that do interest you?
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A sound post imo, Jeremy. Thank you.
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I also have no interest whatsoever in Strictly. This means that, when I see a thread about it, I don't normally comment.
I have made an exception here because, one of the most irritating things I find about Internet forums is the people who go on topic X for the sole reason of declaring they have no interest on topic X. Why? Why would you do that? Why not just read the threads that do interest you?
passive aggression towards them what do !
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Yeah but will have no effect :).
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Loving it despite everything else going on. Sat around the telly, eating, with my parents and in-laws on Saturday night (they have a standing engagement to watch Strictly and provide food in eachother's houses on alternate weeks).
I do think Ruth Langsford is lovely, she is on ITT right now.
Nice to see Erin Boag on 'Choreography Corner'.
Didn't vote on Saturday but my top celebs are Alexandra and Aston - but like them all and it's early days.
(It was right that Richard went but he was gracious and fun. He had a great time. I loved his 'elimination' dance to 'The time of my Life'.)
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Marvin??? Are you talking about Aston? I am always slightly ambivalent about people who have earned a living out of dancing or singing and dancing on the programme, so just for the enthusiasm points to Susan Calman, who in her day job I find unfunny, but here delightful
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Why did I say Marvin? Yes, meant Aston. I will alter.
You have a point but he hasn't done ballroom which is such a different discipline.
Special mention for Johnny, he was great as Indiana Jones.
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Why did I say Marvin? Yes, meant Aston. I will alter.
You have a point but he hasn't done ballroom which is such a different discipline.
Special mention for Johnny, he was great as Indiana Jones.
I presumed Aston as Marvin was another member of JLS and has been on the programme supporting Aston. I get the different disciplines idea but there is a huge difference between those who are professionals on dance and those who have no clue about it.
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Yes, Marvin and his wife, Rochelle, were on there supporting Aston and the girl from the Saturdays (Molly?). I liked JLS in their day.
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I was reading about Aston, NS, and he has had dance training and experience, albeit not ballroom. So I suppose he has an edge, particularly against people like Susan, Charlotte and Mollie. Alexandra doesn't have dance training, she may have learned a bit in the musical she was in but no more than that (I'm an all time Alexandra Burke fan but that doesn't make me biased in Strictly). What did surprise me was Debbie McGee's extensive dance training! I had no idea about her, only thought of her with Paul Daniels. No wonder she is so good, so poised.
I remember Tom Chambers who won SCD some years back; he knew how to dance big time.
The judges have said that those with dance experience are marked more harshly and they give points to those who improve so we shall see.
I think Gemma is marvellous and Susan & Jonny are great. Charlotte and Mollie are so sweet, I'd like to see them do well.
Last year, apart from Ed Balls who was great entertainment but also actually learned to dance, I loved Rob Rinder who started as a rank beginner and improved week on week. He was so humble too, like a boy, really appreciated everything.
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Loved Ruth and Anton's tango! She really has improved.
I was pleased to see so much better from Molly(Mollie?), she looked great tonight, far more confident.
Gemma - wow.
Alexandra - can't find the words.
Love Jonny.
Great show.
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Agreed!
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Glad you enjoyed Susan!
(I watched Susan Calman again today and she was really good!)
I'll be sorry to see someone go again tonight as they are all so nice but - that's the way it goes and it's gonna get worse!
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I miss Len. For many years, my wife and I have created this character that Len is actually a character from Minder occasionally seen in the Winchester Club referred to as Len the Dancer. Rarely speaking, you just see him in the background teaching other regulars some steps.
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That sounds like Len! I really liked/like him too but things move on, still a great show.
I haven't watched tonight's ITT yet, will catch up on iplayer (hope there's not too much silliness). It was lovely to see Natalie Lowe in choreography corner twice this week.
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I've decided not to turn on the TV this evening to watch it. The way over the top Hallow'e'en style I find really silly.
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I don't like the Halloween stuff either which I think is silly and childish. I'll probably watch it tho'.
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I watched all of yesterday's ITT which was good show with no silliness and games. Loved panel.
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Thought after the show on Saturday that Aston and Mollie could be in the bottom two, and that if it happened he was most likely to go because she had made an obvious mistake that could be avoided. That said I though Ruth's dance while funny was awful. Best of the night for me was Davood who, after a lot of meh dances, delivered a proper American Smooth with a stunning lift. My one disappointment in Aston going was his Paso of the previous week would have been a great dance in the final.
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It was sad to see Aston go but I felt his Viennese Waltz was below his usual standard and, as you said, Mollie's mistake was correctable, she otherwise danced beautifully. When they did the dance off Mollie was the better of the two so the verdict was fair - in my opinion.
Agree with you about Davood, he was amazing on Saturday.
I loved Ruth and Anton's paso! I could watch it over and over, not surprised they got the public vote.
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The fault sadly is not Astons. It is the choreographer/production team who thought it would be a good idea to go jackson 5 on a viennese waltz. Dreadful decision for which Aston suffered. A shame as the boy had talent.
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Yes, they do get it wrong sometimes, it's happened in previous series. Regardless of that, Craig's score of 4 was ludicrous, I also expect Aston's fans who didn't bother to vote for him have red faces. He's a smashing chap, he'll be fine, onwards and upwards.
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Another good show tonight. Davood continues to do well. Think two out of Jonny, Ruth and Mollie will be in dance off but the show is full of surprises.
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The lovely Jonnie is out but didn't he do well (to coin a phrase)?
Gemma, Mollie and Joe were great last night.
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Viewers are being a bit harsh on Alexandra Burke for her forced tears, she is only puttin' on the style a bit, this ain't the days of Peter West.
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I haven't seen any forced tears. How can you force tears anyway?
Anyway watched second episode of Howards End on iplayer last night and am completely entranced, can't wait for next week's.
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Anyway watched second episode of Howards End on iplayer last night and am completely entranced, can't wait for next week's.
Is that the sequel to Howards Way?
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Susan has gone but, boy, she really did well & was great fun.
Just put episode 3 of 'Howards End' on iplayer, something I've been looking forward to all week and, thanks to you, HWB, I kept inputting 'Howards Way' before realising my mistake! >:(
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Such a quality production with a superb band with equally superb singers, the obvious skill employed making the beautiful costumes and dresses for all of the performers.
The nearest I can get to describe my feelings about the audience behaviour on 'Strictly' would be, if I spent a hundred pounds plus to see and hear a similar show, I would be thinking I didn't pay to hear Mr & Mrs Whoever screaming and clapping for some strange reason or to have them doing sudden irrational random stand ups?
I'm sure this behaviour is encouraged by those that put the show on but it would be good and make the show so much more enjoyable if the audience were to ignore them and behave in a civilised manner.
ippy
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Funny you should say that ippy, my mum and mother-in-law, who are great fans, say much the same about the audience. It doesn't bother me but apparently a lot of people find it a bit annoying. It doesn't spoil it though, really, does it? You're right that the audience are encouraged to make a fuss!
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Funny you should say that ippy, my mum and mother-in-law, who are great fans, say much the same about the audience. It doesn't bother me but apparently a lot of people find it a bit annoying. It doesn't spoil it though, really, does it? You're right that the audience are encouraged to make a fuss!
I think it spoils it, it take the edge off of an otherwise excellent programme for me, I would imagine the Americans would behave in a similar manner but without the need to prompt them but then again we're not Americans, Are we?
Regards ippy
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I'm sure you wouldn't be the only one to complain, if you could be bothered to complain, ippy, and they might tone it down a bit. It doesn't bother me one way or the other, I love the show, but I've heard what you said on more than one occasion.
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I'm sure you wouldn't be the only one to complain, if you could be bothered to complain, ippy, and they might tone it down a bit. It doesn't bother me one way or the other, I love the show, but I've heard what you said on more than one occasion.
I think of the way they organise the Albert Hall classical performances where even if anyone has a persistant cough a steward will tap the offender on the sholder and guide them outside to stop them disturbing the performance.
If you see something similar going on when watching 'Strictly', you'll be able to say that's ippy from that blog page I do on the internet, that is until someone knocks my lights out, but it'd be worth it, perhaps I'll put my peaked cap on and carry a tick board, yes, that's it, that ought to sort them out, perhaps trousers with a red stripe down the sides too, yes.
I have my T V wired to my hi fi system, believe me these people, the band and singers are so good when you can hear them.
Regards ippy
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Ippy, I've heard, and read, many negative comments about the Albert Hall and its accoustics. Never stopped me enjoying things I've been to there but I'm no expert. Coughing happens everywhere, I was at the Coliseum once and started coughing. I went out for a little while, felt dreadful at disturbing everyone.
Anyway, 'chavvy' or not Strictly is over for another year. I absolutely loved the final, one of the best. Now bereft that there will be no more until late next year. We have the Christmas special but that, though great fun, is not the same.
My 'fav' didn't win but I thought Joe McFadden was great and a worthy winner - I'd had a feeling that Debbie might take the glitter ball but was wrong. Alexander rules as far as I'm concerned but all contestants were great this year.
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I agree that Alexandra was the best but Joe probably had the steepest learning curve and was a worthy winner.
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I thought that this series wasn't as good as some of the other series mainly because there were too many celebrities who were, to put it mildly, pretty ordinary or poor dancers. However, after having said that, I thought the final was outstanding. I thought there was little to choose between the four couples, and, for me, Katya's choreography in each of their numbers was one deciding factor. Another deciding factor was, as has been mentioned, the superb progress that Joe had made throughout the competition. A third factor was the fact that Alexandra had been choreographed by one of the judges for her part in a stage musical previously, which should have made this judge's input null and void. For me the most outstanding dance on the night was the Argentine Tango. I also think that Alexandra was superb at the beginning of the series, but didn't really show any improvement as the series went on. I believe that Joe and Katya were worthy winners. Just personal opinions, you understand, as are those of everyone else. :)
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Very fair, enki.
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Just as an addendum to my previous post, I suppose I'm biased in favour of the argentine tango, because my wife and I do a sequence variation of it called an argentine stroll(well, we are both over 70) in the dances that we run.
In fact the music Debbie and her partner used was based on the same melody we use(Por una cabeza). We actually learnt it from this youtube version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1SBtBrqPGI
And I can tell you, its not easy. The timing is both difficult and exact, and your balance(both man and woman) has to be spot on.
:)
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It is a marvellous dance. I have a friend who did it, she and her partner regularly went to a venue in Portland Place for a night of AT (you might know of it).Glad you and your wife do a sequence.
(Never dreamed you were over 70!)
Debbie really touched my heart during the series. I knew little of her before and didn't know whether or not I would like her, but now I do. Bless her.
It was such a lovely series all round! Ah well, next year......
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One thing I only found out recently is that not all of the dances are choreographed by the professionals - other choreographers are certainly used on the Argentine Tango and the Charlestons. This is never mentioned and is I feel slightly misleading as the comments from the judges always stress how well the dancers have done with the choreography - giving the impression that they do all of this work. They don't. One of the professional choreographers used is Jenny Thomas - but never gets the credit now. And thinking about it now, if memory serves me correctly, in the earlier series they were mentioned.
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One thing I only found out recently is that not all of the dances are choreographed by the professionals - other choreographers are certainly used on the Argentine Tango and the Charlestons. This is never mentioned and is I feel slightly misleading as the comments from the judges always stress how well the dancers have done with the choreography - giving the impression that they do all of this work. They don't. One of the professional choreographers used is Jenny Thomas - but never gets the credit now. And thinking about it now, if memory serves me correctly, in the earlier series they were mentioned.
This might be of interest:
http://www.kelebaker.com/resources/Dance-Today/Secrets-Dec-2010.pdf
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Is it over then?
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Yup, you can come out now :D.
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Interesting point about the choreography having outside hehlp.
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I agree that Alexandra was the best but Joe probably had the steepest learning curve and was a worthy winner.
Pedant's Corner
I realise that you are merely following conventional usage, but a "steep learning curve" actually indicates rapid, easy, learning.
The term was first used by psychologists in the late years of the 19th century to indicate the relationship between a change in behaviour due to experience - learning (y-axis) and the amount of experience (x-axis). Experience is positively correlated with time. Difficult tasks take a long time to learn.
Hence, the amount of experience required by Joe would require considerable practice, effort and time to acquire - hence a lot of learning required to reach the demonstrated proficiency. This produces a shallow rather than steep learning curve.
End of pedantic interruption.
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But a very interesting and useful pedantic interruption! :)
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Yes, thanks Harrowby!
It's often mentioned that the professional dancers have help with choreography. For example there was a professional this year who had never danced the Argentine Tango (same happened in previous years), so had to learn it from scratch as well as choreograph.
Katya Jones had a lot of help with choreography from her husband, Neil.