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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Humph Warden Bennett on October 27, 2017, 10:18:25 AM

Title: A sad little story
Post by: Humph Warden Bennett on October 27, 2017, 10:18:25 AM
From the BBC site yesterday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-41763599

I have some sympathy for Mr Marcel.
Title: Re: A sad little story
Post by: floo on October 27, 2017, 10:34:05 AM
The story seems ridiculous to me. ::)
Title: Re: A sad little story
Post by: Shaker on October 27, 2017, 10:35:06 AM
Me too.
Title: Re: A sad little story
Post by: Rhiannon on October 27, 2017, 10:39:28 AM
I always thought you could bury your loved ones in the back garden if you so wished. Might affect the resale value of the house but hey.
Title: Re: A sad little story
Post by: floo on October 27, 2017, 11:16:12 AM
I definitely wouldn't wish to have anyone buried in our garden. Having said that we did wonder if there was a body buried in the garden of our previous property. There was a gravestone resting against the wall of the house, 'Jane Jones, aged 15, 1778.' We heard various rumours about a body being buried in one of the flower beds. Once when my husband was gardening he dug up a single bone from a vertebrae. We showed it to my brother-in-law, a doctor, and also our GP, who both said it was possible it was human, but they couldn't be sure.
Title: Re: A sad little story
Post by: Robbie on October 27, 2017, 11:46:19 AM
I didn't find the story sad, just weird. The couple should have been buried fifteen years ago. Their son could have erected a little memorial in the garden, planted a tree or rose bush.
Title: Re: A sad little story
Post by: floo on October 27, 2017, 12:18:29 PM
I much prefer the cremation of a body to a burial. The idea of a person, I cared about in life, rotting in the ground, does not fill me with pleasure.
Title: Re: A sad little story
Post by: Robbie on October 27, 2017, 12:26:57 PM
He could scatter their ashes around the rosebush and tree he planted. Just a thought. I may be sounding a bit disrespectful, don't mean to. I feel sorry for the man who feels strongly about all this but the idea of burying people in the garden is just weird.
Title: Re: A sad little story
Post by: ippy on October 27, 2017, 12:27:38 PM
I always thought you could bury your loved ones in the back garden if you so wished. Might affect the resale value of the house but hey.

Do they necessarily have to be dead at the time Rhi?

Sorry, ippy
Title: Re: A sad little story
Post by: Rhiannon on October 27, 2017, 12:53:25 PM
He could scatter their ashes around the rosebush and tree he planted. Just a thought. I may be sounding a bit disrespectful, don't mean to. I feel sorry for the man who feels strongly about all this but the idea of burying people in the garden is just weird.

I think it’s only weird because we are envisaging a typical suburban garden. People with land have had family mausolea for centuries and it’s seen as a privilege of wealth and a way of marking the importance of blood ties. He just wanted to do the same thing, but presumably he lives somewhere that it’d be obtrusive to neighbours.

Title: Re: A sad little story
Post by: Robbie on October 27, 2017, 02:20:19 PM
Yes you're probably right.
Title: Re: A sad little story
Post by: Humph Warden Bennett on October 27, 2017, 02:52:57 PM
He could scatter their ashes around the rosebush and tree he planted. Just a thought. I may be sounding a bit disrespectful, don't mean to. I feel sorry for the man who feels strongly about all this but the idea of burying people in the garden is just weird.

Not everybody likes the idea of cremation. I did know some people in TX who buried their relatives in their gardens, but their gardens were big by our standards, and their properties were in rural areas.

I do think it unfortunate that this story ended with the council taking legal action.
Title: Re: A sad little story
Post by: Nearly Sane on October 27, 2017, 02:56:43 PM
What should they have done? Are bodies in an ex fishmonger's fridge the way to go?
Title: Re: A sad little story
Post by: floo on October 27, 2017, 03:02:16 PM
Not everybody likes the idea of cremation. I did know some people in TX who buried their relatives in their gardens, but their gardens were big by our standards, and their properties were in rural areas.

I do think it unfortunate that this story ended with the council taking legal action.

Why, what else could they do?
Title: Re: A sad little story
Post by: Walter on October 28, 2017, 05:43:19 AM
Why, what else could they do?
when my parents were cremated ,the council used their bodies to heat the local swimming pool
So the family held the wake at a pool party and for one last time we were able to enjoy the warmth of their love 😱😳😪
Title: Re: A sad little story
Post by: floo on October 28, 2017, 08:28:13 AM
when my parents were cremated ,the council used their bodies to heat the local swimming pool
So the family held the wake at a pool party and for one last time we were able to enjoy the warmth of their love 😱😳😪

I think using the energy from crems to heat swimming pools etc is a brilliant idea, waste not, want not.
Title: Re: A sad little story
Post by: Robbie on October 28, 2017, 09:26:21 AM
I agree with that in principle.
Title: Re: A sad little story
Post by: Anchorman on October 28, 2017, 10:31:22 AM
I always thought you could bury your loved ones in the back garden if you so wished. Might affect the resale value of the house but hey.




The law in Scotland's a bit ambiguous, but if the death is legally registered, and permission is sought with the local authorities, a person can be buried in the back garden - as long as the grave has been inspected for depth by a council employee first.
The burial site detail is then held in retentis by the council.