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Religion and Ethics Discussion => Theism and Atheism => Topic started by: Rhiannon on November 17, 2017, 07:28:54 AM

Title: Forced to ‘know God’
Post by: Rhiannon on November 17, 2017, 07:28:54 AM
Mostly so that palm oil can be grown by the looks of it.

An appalling tragedy.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41981430
Title: Re: Forced to ‘know God’
Post by: Shaker on November 17, 2017, 07:42:44 AM
The history of monotheism in two paragraphs:

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Ustad Reyhan, from the Islamic missionary group Hidayatullah, has stayed to make sure the new faith is practised.

"For now we are focusing on the children. It's easier to convert them - their mind isn't filled with other things. With the older ones it's harder," he says.
Title: Re: Forced to ‘know God’
Post by: trippymonkey on November 17, 2017, 08:16:26 AM
Just been reading the article - ABSOLUTE disgrace. This is how Islam works it's dirt.!!!
It's spread like some wild disease that initially creeps in & then spreads across lands !

Not like the Old Days when it went into small places with a big force & took over, completely disregarding what was there ?!!?!? Can't do that now but says ' you CONvert to 'our' ideas & we'll feed you' !
This is after it's already invaded &helped cause the mess in the first place.
Where has Islam actually made a place better?

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Title: Re: Forced to ‘know God’
Post by: Rhiannon on November 17, 2017, 08:18:03 AM
Christianity doesn't exactly have a good track record on this either.
Title: Re: Forced to ‘know God’
Post by: trippymonkey on November 17, 2017, 08:19:38 AM
Indeed but we're not on about Christianity on THIS thread, are we???
Title: Re: Forced to ‘know God’
Post by: Rhiannon on November 17, 2017, 08:36:14 AM
No but it's a sadly familiar story.
Title: Re: Forced to ‘know God’
Post by: Nearly Sane on November 17, 2017, 09:04:09 AM
Indeed but we're not on about Christianity on THIS thread, are we???
Not specifically but the article highlights that they needed to convert to one of the official religions - and  it's unclear what the mechanism was for Islam being the one chosen. Further it's also not just about religion it's about the idea that the Orang Rimba are seen as inferior, religion (of whatever type that is 'approved') here is seen as the civilising force, but it's part of a whole view of what is civilised.
Title: Re: Forced to ‘know God’
Post by: ippy on November 17, 2017, 10:54:47 AM

Most religions, if not all have a policy of not teaching young children to think for themselves? Oh no they wont be doing that, they need to grab young and vulnerable children before they've reached an age where the're likely to challenge so that they fill their heads full of all this religious nonsense they have this urge to fill their heads with.

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Title: Re: Forced to ‘know God’
Post by: floo on November 18, 2017, 08:17:22 AM
Christianity doesn't exactly have a good track record on this either.

Indeed it doesn't, the Christian missionaries often forced their faith on the 'heathen'!
Title: Re: Forced to ‘know God’
Post by: Shaker on November 18, 2017, 08:26:20 AM
Indeed it doesn't, the Christian missionaries often forced their faith on the 'heathen'!
It's in the manual. They're supposed to.