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General Category => Politics & Current Affairs => Topic started by: Anchorman on December 20, 2017, 09:30:34 PM

Title: Green gone.
Post by: Anchorman on December 20, 2017, 09:30:34 PM
And another one bites the dust..... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/damian-green-resigns-quits-latest-deputy-prime-minister-theresa-may-pornography-a8121271.html
Title: Re: Green gone.
Post by: Robbie on December 20, 2017, 10:10:52 PM
Just watching the news report about him.
Who next?
Title: Re: Green gone.
Post by: Gordon on December 20, 2017, 10:45:05 PM
It was a long goodbye right enough: a more effective PM who wasn't being held to ransom by her own party would have been more decisive given the writing was on the wall long before now.

Tempted to say it doesn't inspire confidence in our Westminster government but that ship sailed long ago.
Title: Re: Green gone.
Post by: Owlswing on December 21, 2017, 01:00:26 AM
It was a long goodbye right enough: a more effective PM who wasn't being held to ransom by her own party would have been more decisive given the writing was on the wall long before now.

Tempted to say it doesn't inspire confidence in our Westminster government but that ship sailed long ago.

As long as it is filled with self-serving egotists it will ever be thus! All 650 of 'em and don't get me started on the Upper House!
Title: Re: Green gone.
Post by: floo on December 21, 2017, 08:53:01 AM
And another one bites the dust..... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/damian-green-resigns-quits-latest-deputy-prime-minister-theresa-may-pornography-a8121271.html

And about time too!
Title: Re: Green gone.
Post by: Aruntraveller on December 21, 2017, 09:55:52 AM
As long as it is filled with self-serving egotists it will ever be thus! All 650 of 'em and don't get me started on the Upper House!

Talk about sweeping generalisations!

Whilst I share a pessimistic view about some MP's to tar them all with the same brush is as silly as saying all pagans dance naked around the seven stones of Hodron Edge every full moon.
Title: Re: Green gone.
Post by: wigginhall on December 21, 2017, 10:09:04 AM
It also seems a bit unempirical.  I've known two MPs quite well, and they were both scarily weird, however, I try not to generalize on that.
Title: Re: Green gone.
Post by: floo on December 21, 2017, 10:37:10 AM
Talk about sweeping generalisations!

Whilst I share a pessimistic view about some MP's to tar them all with the same brush is as silly as saying all pagans dance naked around the seven stones of Hodron Edge every full moon.

I agree. I have met our own MP when he paid a visit to our home some years ago. We had a long chat, he seemed like a decent bloke. He is still a serving MP, there has never been any dirt dredged up about him.
Title: Re: Green gone.
Post by: Shaker on December 21, 2017, 10:37:53 AM
... yet  ;)
Title: Re: Green gone.
Post by: Anchorman on December 21, 2017, 10:47:48 AM
Anyone else remember Davies' threat? So, any bets? Didn't think so..... Contact said Davies at hypocrites-r-us. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-davis-damian-green-pornography-cabinet-quit-brexit-secretary-first-images-computer-a8086826.html
Title: Re: Green gone.
Post by: Aruntraveller on December 21, 2017, 11:12:23 AM
Anyone else remember Davies' threat? So, any bets? Didn't think so..... Contact said Davies at hypocrites-r-us. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-davis-damian-green-pornography-cabinet-quit-brexit-secretary-first-images-computer-a8086826.html

Oh yes - that had slipped my mind. C'mon David do the right thing. Oops forgot he's a Tory.

On a totally different issue - does anyone else have problems with The Indy's website. Whatever I try to view it on it takes an age to load or freezes, or shuts down my phone screen. Is it just me?
Title: Re: Green gone.
Post by: wigginhall on December 21, 2017, 11:20:07 AM
No, I avoid the Indy website, it's very slow and jerky.   I don't know whether their ads take so long to load or not. 
Title: Re: Green gone.
Post by: Owlswing on December 21, 2017, 11:49:24 AM
Talk about sweeping generalisations!

Whilst I share a pessimistic view about some MP's to tar them all with the same brush is as silly as saying all pagans dance naked around the seven stones of Hodron Edge every full moon.

So it might be but I have noted on more than one ocassion MP's elected supporting one point of viw and voting exactly the opposite in the House.

Or saying one thing and doing another.

A Minister of Transport who had never, ever, driven a motor vehicle or held a driving license, and a Chancellor of the Exchequer who admitted to his only experience of finance being as a clerk in the Tax Office and not even a good one at that.

Vatrious crooked deals involving expenses, some extremely doubtful moral turpitude . . . .

And that is only the ones who got caught - another thread here about covered up abuse of children . . . 
Title: Re: Green gone.
Post by: Harrowby Hall on December 22, 2017, 12:28:31 PM


A Minister of Transport who had never, ever, driven a motor vehicle or held a driving license, and a Chancellor of the Exchequer who admitted to his only experience of finance being as a clerk in the Tax Office and not even a good one at that.


Indeed. And it's almost certain that she had never driven a train or flown an aircraft or captained a ship, either. Totally unqualified in every respect.

Oh ... and another thing - nobody in the United Kingdom has ever held a driving "license".
Title: Re: Green gone.
Post by: jeremyp on December 28, 2017, 07:30:00 PM

A Minister of Transport who had never, ever, driven a motor vehicle or held a driving license
Because it is sooo important that the minister of transport be a motorist. Personally, I'd be more concerned that they had travelled regularly by train (in standard class) or on the bus.