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Title: Inside No 9
Post by: Nearly Sane on January 10, 2018, 01:32:23 PM
Thought this week's episode was excellent.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b05p650r
Title: Re: Inside No 9
Post by: Walter on January 12, 2018, 12:40:56 AM
Thought this week's episode was excellent.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b05p650r
yes, me too
Title: Re: Inside No 9
Post by: Nearly Sane on January 12, 2018, 08:02:30 AM
yes, me too
Even when the episodes don't quite work, they are interesting, but when they work as this one did they are minatures of detailed genius.
Title: Re: Inside No 9
Post by: Walter on January 12, 2018, 03:41:10 PM
Even when the episodes don't quite work, they are interesting, but when they work as this one did they are minatures of detailed genius.
steady on old chap , genius?
Although it did influence my thinking for a few hours 👍
Title: Re: Inside No 9
Post by: Nearly Sane on January 12, 2018, 03:46:23 PM
steady on old chap , genius?
Although it did influence my thinking for a few hours 👍
Yep, in the artistic sense just as much as Rembrandt or a Bach.
Title: Re: Inside No 9
Post by: Walter on January 12, 2018, 04:14:24 PM
Yep, in the artistic sense just as much as Rembrandt or a Bach.
I like the connection you make between performance acting and a bloke with a paint brush
I see your point but it's an overused word
If genius is on a sliding scale , where does it start?
Title: Re: Inside No 9
Post by: Nearly Sane on January 12, 2018, 04:30:23 PM
I like the connection you make between performance acting and a bloke with a paint brush
I see your point but it's an overused word
If genius is on a sliding scale , where does it start?


It is an overused word but that doesn't mean that all used s are wrong, and I'm not sure that it's on a sliding scale as such. If I use it in scientific terms about an Einstein or  a Clerk Maxwell, it's about seeing things in a different way to previously and being right for the time. But art is not science and it seems to me more about observation and revealing stuff about humanity, much of which we will already have but with a different concentration on some fractal observation. To be fair what the best of Inside No 9 gas revealed has been more Hilliard than Rembrandt and since that blend of joy and melancholy is what I most feel covers genius in art forms,  the subject here was bound to appeal. To get something like this right needs a blend of skill of writing and performing and production that it needs to be about the mix of thought, skill and instinct that seems to me to be genius.
Title: Re: Inside No 9
Post by: Walter on January 12, 2018, 04:40:53 PM

It is an overused word but that doesn't mean that all used s are wrong, and I'm not sure that it's on a sliding scale as such. If I use it in scientific terms about an Einstein or  a Clerk Maxwell, it's about seeing things in a different way to previously and being right for the time. But art is not science and it seems to me more about observation and revealing stuff about humanity, much of which we will already have but with a different concentration on some fractal observation. To be fair what the best of Inside No 9 gas revealed has been more Hilliard than Rembrandt and since that blend of joy and melancholy is what I most feel covers genius in art forms,  the subject here was bound to appeal. To get something like this right needs a blend of skill of writing and performing and production that it needs to be about the mix of thought, skill and instinct that seems to me to be genius.
ok , I'll go with that , I was certainly moved by the piece .
Would you consider a chap who has had very little formal education but can produce a perfect Samuri sword to be a genius or just highly skilled in one thing ?
Title: Re: Inside No 9
Post by: Nearly Sane on January 12, 2018, 04:48:52 PM
ok , I'll go with that , I was certainly moved by the piece .
Would you consider a chap who has had very little formal education but can produce a perfect Samuri sword to be a genius or just highly skilled in one thing ?

Maybe. The lack of education seems unimportant to me. I think I see genius in the arts as being about what being human is. My worry about the swordsmith is could everyone who spends the requisite 10,000 hours plus produce this, and what does it tell me about being human?


We are in the depths of what is skill and what if anything is the extra bit? I think Lionel Messi is sublime, skilled , astounding but not a genius.
Title: Re: Inside No 9
Post by: Walter on January 12, 2018, 05:32:15 PM
Maybe. The lack of education seems unimportant to me. I think I see genius in the arts as being about what being human is. My worry about the swordsmith is could everyone who spends the requisite 10,000 hours plus produce this, and what does it tell me about being human?


We are in the depths of what is skill and what if anything is the extra bit? I think Lionel Messi is sublime, skilled , astounding but not a genius.
i struggle to see genious in anything other than in science maths engineering   But if a person can do arts as well then that's the bit extra
Title: Re: Inside No 9
Post by: Walter on January 23, 2018, 10:42:05 PM
Saney

The nurse thing did it for me ........😱
Title: Re: Inside No 9
Post by: Nearly Sane on January 23, 2018, 11:44:10 PM
Saney

The nurse thing did it for me ........😱

Reminded me of Maupassant and Saki tonight
Title: Re: Inside No 9
Post by: Walter on January 24, 2018, 09:02:34 AM
Reminded me of Maupassant and Saki tonight
I quite like a bit of improper. Ooh er !
Title: Re: Inside No 9
Post by: Rhiannon on January 24, 2018, 09:19:24 AM
i struggle to see genious in anything other than in science maths engineering   But if a person can do arts as well then that's the bit extra

Genius shows you something new. If that is communicated through an artistic medium, it’s still genius.
Title: Re: Inside No 9
Post by: Walter on January 24, 2018, 07:19:20 PM
Genius shows you something new. If that is communicated through an artistic medium, it’s still genius.
oh , sorry I didn't know   Thanks for telling me .
Title: Re: Inside No 9
Post by: Nearly Sane on February 01, 2018, 03:32:11 AM
Was a bit disappointed in this week's but then that's against the high standard overall. The characters seemed less well drawn than usual.
Title: Re: Inside No 9
Post by: Walter on February 07, 2018, 11:06:01 AM
Was a bit disappointed in this week's but then that's against the high standard overall. The characters seemed less well drawn than usual.
"a degree in washing up"
Priceless ! :)
Title: Re: Inside No 9
Post by: Nearly Sane on February 07, 2018, 03:01:39 PM
"a degree in washing up"
Priceless ! :)


Again a couple of good lines but I felt this one was also a bit weaker than the starting four. It's as well trodden path, the old be careful what you wish for, even to the extent of referencing The Monkey's Paw.
Title: Re: Inside No 9
Post by: Walter on February 07, 2018, 07:57:11 PM

Again a couple of good lines but I felt this one was also a bit weaker than the starting four. It's as well trodden path, the old be careful what you wish for, even to the extent of referencing The Monkey's Paw.
you see, brings genius back into question Saney 
Title: Re: Inside No 9
Post by: Nearly Sane on February 07, 2018, 08:09:15 PM
you see, brings genius back into question Saney
Not even Einstein or Newton was always a genius.
Title: Re: Inside No 9
Post by: Walter on February 07, 2018, 09:29:47 PM
Not even Einstein or Newton was always a genius.
nor me !