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General Category => Politics & Current Affairs => Topic started by: Nearly Sane on March 19, 2018, 02:13:31 PM

Title: Data, data everywhere, nor any stop to think
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 19, 2018, 02:13:31 PM: This is one of those stories that while important will struggle to be clearly explained or understood. It's impact seems both exaggerated, and minimised as pundits strain to deal with Big Data implications. And removing yourself from Facebook will only create more points of data.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43450127
Title: Re: Data, data everywhere, nor any stop to think
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 22, 2018, 10:22:45 AM: Looking behind the curtain

http://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2018/03/20/scl-a-very-british-coup/
Title: Re: Data, data everywhere, nor any stop to think
Post by: torridon on March 22, 2018, 12:29:18 PM: All very murky.

Just as in medieval times when the Church could use its power to control and manipulate people through control of information, it seems we are still being manipulated by people with the money and the know how. It's getting harder to know who and what to trust
Title: Re: Data, data everywhere, nor any stop to think
Post by: ippy on March 22, 2018, 12:51:06 PM: Isn't the BBC a slightly more successful version of the paddles on a pin ball table?

Regards ippy
Title: Re: Data, data everywhere, nor any stop to think
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 22, 2018, 01:16:49 PM: Quote from: ippy on March 22, 2018, 12:51:06 PM
Isn't the BBC a slightly more successful version of the paddles on a pin ball table?

Regards ippy
No idea of what you are trying to say here, or how it might be relevant to the thread.
Title: Re: Data, data everywhere, nor any stop to think
Post by: ippy on March 22, 2018, 01:19:34 PM: Quote from: Nearly Sane on March 22, 2018, 01:16:49 PM
No idea of what you are trying to say here, or how it might be relevant to the thread.

It's not a multi paged thesis, so no surprises there.

Regards ippy
Title: Re: Data, data everywhere, nor any stop to think
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 22, 2018, 01:34:04 PM: Quote from: torridon on March 22, 2018, 12:29:18 PM
All very murky.

Just as in medieval times when the Church could use its power to control and manipulate people through control of information, it seems we are still being manipulated by people with the money and the know how. It's getting harder to know who and what to trust

I am sceptical of some of the idea of manipulation. It seems to overestimate people's abilities and as all a bit Illuminati conspiracy. That doesn't mean that I think they aren't trying to do it.
Title: Re: Data, data everywhere, nor any stop to think
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 22, 2018, 04:59:24 PM: Quote from: ippy on March 22, 2018, 01:19:34 PM
It's not a multi paged thesis, so no surprises there.

Regards ippy

Just a little more clarification is all that I asked for.
Title: Re: Data, data everywhere, nor any stop to think
Post by: ippy on March 22, 2018, 05:06:55 PM: Quote from: Nearly Sane on March 22, 2018, 04:59:24 PM

Just a little more clarification is all that I asked for.

As per post 2 on this thread it looks like manipulation wont be going out of fashion any time soon, a comment, not me looking for an argument.

Regards ippy
Title: Re: Data, data everywhere, nor any stop to think
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 22, 2018, 05:12:01 PM: Quote from: ippy on March 22, 2018, 05:06:55 PM
As per post 2 on this thread it looks like manipulation wont be going out of fashion any time soon, a comment, not me looking for an argument.

Regards ippy
That's great, thank you, not really sure what it has to do with your comment on the BBC though. I haven't said you are looking for argument, I just found your comment a bit gnomic. And yes manipulation will always be with us but that doesn't mean that what is going on is easy to understand. Big Data is something we have to consider clearly to even begin to understand the problems.
Title: Re: Data, data everywhere, nor any stop to think
Post by: Nearly Sane on April 12, 2018, 07:40:47 PM: If Zuckerberg were questioned in Glasgow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?sns=fb&v=vxivboMPvZ0