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General Category => Science and Technology => Topic started by: Nearly Sane on March 22, 2018, 04:27:03 PM

Title: Brain preservation
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 22, 2018, 04:27:03 PM
Agree with Sue Blackmore here


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/14/brain-preservation-step-closer-stored-memories-artificial
Title: Re: Brain preservation
Post by: floo on March 22, 2018, 05:10:13 PM
Agree with Sue Blackmore here


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/14/brain-preservation-step-closer-stored-memories-artificial

So do I.
Title: Re: Brain preservation
Post by: Enki on March 22, 2018, 05:16:00 PM
As do I.  I also like what she has to say on the subject of NDEs.
Title: Re: Brain preservation
Post by: Harrowby Hall on March 23, 2018, 02:03:57 PM
I used to watch Star Trek and wonder about the "reality" of the transporter beam. Surely, I considered, if you were physically disassembled and then reassembled at the appropriate destination it wouldn't be "you" at the other end but a newly-constructed simulacrum of "you" with all your physical attributes and all your memories but it would effectively be a brand-new person. You would have been destroyed at the transmitter end of the beam.
Title: Re: Brain preservation
Post by: ippy on March 23, 2018, 02:18:49 PM
I used to watch Star Trek and wonder about the "reality" of the transporter beam. Surely, I considered, if you were physically disassembled and then reassembled at the appropriate destination it wouldn't be "you" at the other end but a newly-constructed simulacrum of "you" with all your physical attributes and all your memories but it would effectively be a brand-new person. You would have been destroyed at the transmitter end of the beam.

I hadn't realised how deep you are H H, there are so many that don't take 'Star Trek' seriously enough.

Regards ippy
Title: Re: Brain preservation
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 23, 2018, 02:43:42 PM
I used to watch Star Trek and wonder about the "reality" of the transporter beam. Surely, I considered, if you were physically disassembled and then reassembled at the appropriate destination it wouldn't be "you" at the other end but a newly-constructed simulacrum of "you" with all your physical attributes and all your memories but it would effectively be a brand-new person. You would have been destroyed at the transmitter end of the beam.

The transporter gave rise to a number of episodes exploring this, see link below. I both agree and disagree with your assessment. If the transported individual does not internally feel different then I'm not sure that it isn't the sane individual from the viewpoint of the individual.



https://m.ranker.com/list/star-trek-transporters-accidents/greg-hahn
Title: Re: Brain preservation
Post by: Harrowby Hall on March 23, 2018, 04:09:24 PM
I hadn't realised how deep you are H H, there are so many that don't take 'Star Trek' seriously enough.

Regards ippy

Indeed. And there was the episode where Data was playing poker with Isaac Newton and Stephen Hawking - two former and one future occupiers of the Lucasian Chair of Mathematics at Cambridge University.
Title: Re: Brain preservation
Post by: Steve H on March 23, 2018, 05:35:17 PM
Indeed. And there was the episode where Data was playing poker with Isaac Newton and Stephen Hawking - two former and one future occupiers of the Lucasian Chair of Mathematics at Cambridge University.
And Einstein. Hawking playing himself, of course. Decent of the yanks to admit that they haven't got any mathematicians to match Europeans!

https://youtu.be/mg8_cKxJZJY
Title: Re: Brain preservation
Post by: ippy on March 23, 2018, 06:05:00 PM
Indeed. And there was the episode where Data was playing poker with Isaac Newton and Stephen Hawking - two former and one future occupiers of the Lucasian Chair of Mathematics at Cambridge University.

I've been trying to deal with the mathematics of the inertial dampers, often referred to on 'Star Trek', I've found a blackboard, once I can find somewhere to put it.

Regards ippy