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Title: The death of the debauched stag do
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 28, 2018, 07:21:36 PM
Mmm, I am unconvinced that the 'tradiotional' debauched stag do is that traditional and even for the brief darking  light when it was if that many people enjoyed it.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/27/social-media-killed-stag-do-men-no-longer-enjoy-debauchery-fear/
Title: Re: The death of the debauched stag do
Post by: Harrowby Hall on May 28, 2018, 09:15:26 PM
I think that you are right, NS. It's nearly 50 years since my wedding. I did not have a stag do, nor did any of my friends. Some (not all by any means) bought a round at the pub on the night before the wedding.
Title: Re: The death of the debauched stag do
Post by: Aruntraveller on May 28, 2018, 11:16:08 PM
I'd agree for many years in my youth/twenties it seemed to be a trawl round the pubs until either you threw up or managed to stumble into some less that reputable strip club - there was a pub in Nottingham where the ladies used to strut up and down the bar counter.

HH The pub has since been gentrified and is now "The Orange Tree" - it used to be The Clinton Arms.

Of course later I believe that stag do's were encouraged to turn from "nights" into "weekends" and fly off to Amsterdam by the likes of Michael O'Leary. Progress of a sort.  ::)
Title: Re: The death of the debauched stag do
Post by: Rhiannon on May 29, 2018, 09:26:33 AM
You’re right, Trent. It became cheaper to fly to Europe and enjoy cheap beer than use public transport and pay UK prices. Then there is the rise of the wedding ‘lifestyle’ magazines which have taken the hen and stag dos up a notch. The last wedding I had any involvement with, the groom had paint balling and clay pigeon shooting, and the bride had both a spa weekend and wine tasting.

Guests for both are expected to pay their way these days, which can add up to several hundred pounds for activity weekends or even weeks. Add to that the fact that many people need travel expenses and accommodation for the wedding itself (which may or may not be in the UK) plus gifts, and it becomes apparent that attending a wedding can leave someone seriously out of pocket.
Title: Re: The death of the debauched stag do
Post by: Owlswing on May 29, 2018, 03:49:15 PM
You’re right, Trent. It became cheaper to fly to Europe and enjoy cheap beer than use public transport and pay UK prices. Then there is the rise of the wedding ‘lifestyle’ magazines which have taken the hen and stag dos up a notch. The last wedding I had any involvement with, the groom had paint balling and clay pigeon shooting, and the bride had both a spa weekend and wine tasting.

Guests for both are expected to pay their way these days, which can add up to several hundred pounds for activity weekends or even weeks. Add to that the fact that many people need travel expenses and accommodation for the wedding itself (which may or may not be in the UK) plus gifts, and it becomes apparent that attending a wedding can leave someone seriously out of pocket.

Another import from America where profigate spending is everything!?
Title: Re: The death of the debauched stag do
Post by: Harrowby Hall on May 29, 2018, 04:01:11 PM

HH The pub has since been gentrified and is now "The Orange Tree" - it used to be The Clinton Arms.


I vaguely recall the Clinton Arms - isn't it near the Newton Building of Nottingham Trent University? (Except in my day it the Nottingham Regional College of Technology). Presumably Donald Trump forced its name to change not just because of its unwanted association with that woman but also to celebrate the colour of his hair.
Title: Re: The death of the debauched stag do
Post by: Aruntraveller on May 30, 2018, 08:22:51 AM
I vaguely recall the Clinton Arms - isn't it near the Newton Building of Nottingham Trent University? (Except in my day it the Nottingham Regional College of Technology). Presumably Donald Trump forced its name to change not just because of its unwanted association with that woman but also to celebrate the colour of his hair.

You have the location spot on, although your presumption, appealing though it is, is wrong. The name change preceded the Trumpsters rise to power.