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General Category => Politics & Current Affairs => Topic started by: Walt Zingmatilder on June 13, 2018, 02:11:16 PM

Title: Well done SNP!
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on June 13, 2018, 02:11:16 PM
Well done to the SNP for overturning the largely English conventions of everybody should take it up the arse from the government and the only person who should be walked out on is Jeremy Corbyn.
Title: Re: Well done SNP!
Post by: Anchorman on June 13, 2018, 02:14:57 PM
Absolutely. Anyone who ignores the insane, anachronistic trash of the Westminster parliament has my vote. Saor Alba.
Title: Re: Well done SNP!
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 13, 2018, 02:28:38 PM
Well done to the SNP for overturning the largely English conventions of everybody should take it up the arse from the government and the only person who should be walked out on is Jeremy Corbyn.
Who lead the Labour MPS in their abstention on the devolution clause
Title: Re: Well done SNP!
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on June 13, 2018, 02:45:10 PM
Who lead the Labour MPS in their abstention on the devolution clause
Non sequitur to anything I've said on the subject.
Title: Re: Well done SNP!
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 13, 2018, 03:19:00 PM
Non sequitur to anything I've said on the subject.
Nope, because you mentioned Corbyn so I just followed from that
Title: Re: Well done SNP!
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on June 13, 2018, 03:24:23 PM
Nope, because you mentioned Corbyn so I just followed from that
I suggest that that was a Knee jerk leading to another 'Knee tremble' Up.
Title: Re: Well done SNP!
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 13, 2018, 03:27:47 PM
I suggest that that was a Knee jerk leading to another 'Knee tremble' Up.
My hovercraft is full of eels
Title: Re: Well done SNP!
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on June 13, 2018, 03:34:08 PM
My hovercraft is full of eels
Oh great....wave that in front of our faces.
Title: Re: Well done SNP!
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 13, 2018, 03:49:13 PM
Oh great....wave that in front of our faces.
Your nipples explode with shite
Title: Re: Well done SNP!
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on June 13, 2018, 03:55:20 PM
Your nipples explode with shite
Damn. That was a new shirt.
Title: Re: Well done SNP!
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 13, 2018, 04:08:58 PM
Leaving aside's Vlad's shite stained shirt, I'm not sure what to make of the stushie at PMQs. It will play well with a number of SNP supporters and some non SNP supporters but many opposed will just see it as playacting. That it appears that the Speaker did not act in line with the parliamentary rules as regards the motion to hold the session in private will be offset against the confusion people will have of any reasonable point of the motion which was essentially meant as a disruption and to highlight some of the problems of having lobby votes e.g. that they take up an inordinate amount of time and in the case of the debate yesterday meant that actual debate was severely reduced
Title: Re: Well done SNP!
Post by: Anchorman on June 13, 2018, 04:37:20 PM
Of course it was play acting.
However, since the wedding cake hidebound anachronistic trash of the Westminster parliament is worth ridiculing by anyone with a puckle o sense, it was well worth the performance.
Title: Re: Well done SNP!
Post by: Rhiannon on June 13, 2018, 06:42:08 PM
Well at least they appear to be some form of opposition to the government.
Title: Re: Well done SNP!
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on June 13, 2018, 06:49:28 PM
Well at least they appear to be some form of opposition to the government.
Yes and it could only have come from the Scottish contingent
Since down here we expect opposition to be apologetic about itself and remain circumscribed and any politician who is in danger of not being apologetic about themselves or there party should be shunned.

The government's roll is to a)be Conservative and b) barrel fuck the electorate....

.....It has been thus for centuries.
Title: Re: Well done SNP!
Post by: wigginhall on June 13, 2018, 07:29:35 PM
Well at least they appear to be some form of opposition to the government.

Yes, Labour should be hammering the Tories over Brexit, but they are being ordered to abstain on various motions.   What a shambles.   Corbyn is acting as May's bag carrier.  Onwards, comrades, towards a hard Brexit.   WTF.
Title: Re: Well done SNP!
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 13, 2018, 07:54:23 PM
Yes, Labour should be hammering the Tories over Brexit, but they are being ordered to abstain on various motions.   What a shambles.   Corbyn is acting as May's bag carrier.  Onwards, comrades, towards a hard Brexit.   WTF.
The devolution clause was one that Labour in Scotland voted against with the SNP but Labour in Wales effectively voted for.  I think Corbyn is regarding Labour in the two countries as devolved, despite them not being, and then taking a principled decision on that basic misunderstanding of fact, that Labour shouldn't take a position on that. But feck me that's a weird reading for people to get
Title: Re: Well done SNP!
Post by: Anchorman on June 14, 2018, 07:36:28 PM
So......where does a protest stunt get you? Er.....more members.....lots more members..... https://news.sky.com/story/snp-membership-swells-after-mps-mass-walkout-in-westminster-11404491
Title: Re: Well done SNP!
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on June 14, 2018, 11:33:09 PM
BBC grandee David Dimbleby says that the SNP were kicked out of parliament.

Tory MP John Mann thinks it was a stunt.
Title: Re: Well done SNP!
Post by: jeremyp on June 15, 2018, 07:06:24 PM
Yes, Labour should be hammering the Tories over Brexit, but they are being ordered to abstain on various motions.   What a shambles.   Corbyn is acting as May's bag carrier.  Onwards, comrades, towards a hard Brexit.   WTF.

Corbyn is a Leaver. What do you expect?