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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Roses on July 11, 2018, 02:36:07 PM
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11487118/Weedkiller-alert-over-cancer-link.html (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11487118/Weedkiller-alert-over-cancer-link.html)
Some countries have banned the Roundup brand of weedkiller as it might be a cancer risk.
We had some in the shed, which I disposed of this morning, just in case the report is true!
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Stockpile baked beans and tinned soup in case of the next war. You never know ;)
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I am wary of all chemicals like this. The old moth killers were found to be toxic, see also the old type of sheep dip, which contained organo-phosphates.
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It’s not a danger if you squirt a bit on your dandelions, I know the report says ‘people most in danger are gardeners’ but unless you are using it weekly or are working in the gardening or agricultural trade I would have thought regular exposure on the air and ingested through food and drinking water would be worse. The problem is its ubiquitous use on fields. The EU nearly banned glyphosate quite recently. Reports are that the tests show that glyphosate is safe but it is when it is put into compounds that it becomes hazardous, and Monsanto knows it. The Graun had a thing on it which I’ve a vague feeling I’ve linked to here somewhere.
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11487118/Weedkiller-alert-over-cancer-link.html (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11487118/Weedkiller-alert-over-cancer-link.html)
Some countries have banned the Roundup brand of weedkiller as it might be a cancer risk.
We had some in the shed, which I disposed of this morning, just in case the report is true!
How did you dispose of this hazardous chemical?
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I am wary of all chemicals like this. The old moth killers were found to be toxic, see also the old type of sheep dip, which contained organo-phosphates.
Sheep dip ruinous to mechanical clocks and watches, kills the ticks.
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Wise qardeners garden organically.
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Yes! We do (or rather the people who do our garden do). I have used a small spray weedkiller in the past for stray bits coming up on the paved drive and bottom of walls but that was years ago and it didn't work well anyway.
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Sheep dip ruinous to mechanical clocks and watches, kills the ticks.
Take them to a German clock repairer - They haff vays off making them tick.
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Wise qardeners garden organically.
Yep. I have some sympathy for the late Geoff Hamilton's idea that if you have a neglected and overgrown patch of ground infested with perennial weeds you can clear it once, and once only, with glyphosate. But I really don't get why any amateur gardener should be at risk from this stuff unless they are out there squirting it all the time, and that is lunacy.
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Yep. I have some sympathy for the late Geoff Hamilton's idea that if you have a neglected and overgrown patch of ground infested with perennial weeds you can clear it once, and once only, with glyphosate. But I really don't get why any amateur gardener should be at risk from this stuff unless they are out there squirting it all the time, and that is lunacy.
I'd go along with that - weedkill once only in emergency (if you get infested with Japanese knotweed, say) but normally garden organically.
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Japanese knot weed is lethal. There are specialist gardeners who will get rid of it but must be expensive. If I had it I would zap it big time every day until it's gone - if that didn't work I'd call in the army.
I am having a new greenhouse! About time, still have the one my parents had when they lived here fifteen years or so ago, not in bad nick (we've had windows replaced), but I've decided a new one is in order and will try (with help) to grow some edibles. The person who does my garden is delighted.
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I'm into Roses and the best spray you can get is 'Rose Clear', some time back I remember reading that it shouldn't be used when any pregnant mothers were in the vicinity because there were side effects and this one was babies being born without eyes, bit frightening, however there were no pregnant mothers around that were likely to be present in my garden when spraying or in the immediate area either.
Trouble is it's the most effective spray I've ever used for everything roses are prone to even the big bogey man rose rust and any over spray that goes on the ground around the roses is picked up by the roots which makes the whole plant resistant to almost anything roses are prone to, (Systemic's the word for it).
Sorry about that lot it's this bug I have for roses, but the no eyes thing, perhaps we should all get one of those suits they were wearing in Salisbury clearing up the Russian stuff so that we can use them when weed killing or spraying the roses.
Has anyone noticed there are loads of things the paint manufacturers are not allowed to use any more, I've heard that there's trouble with white paint fading into a feint yellow in a short period of time and the decorators are having trouble with their customers because of this problem, I dare say that's down to the chemicals they're not allowed to use any more.
We'll soon all be wearing respirators all the time drinking our tea through a straw, (a paper straw), at least the price of respirators should come down, supply demand you know.
Regards ippy
P S I think I was more or less within the theme of the O P on this thread.
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It's that dihydrogen monoxide you have to worry about. Dangerous stuff.
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It's that dihydrogen monoxide you have to worry about. Dangerous stuff.
Especially if you let it get in your whisky.
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It's that dihydrogen monoxide you have to worry about. Dangerous stuff.
In the Rose spray, the paint or both?
Regards ippy
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It's that dihydrogen monoxide you have to worry about. Dangerous stuff.
I don't have many heroes but one of them is W. C. Fields. He said something about water once ... which I won't repeat [/lame]
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It's that dihydrogen monoxide you have to worry about. Dangerous stuff.
I've heard that there's a shortage of it now though.
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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/aug/16/weedkiller-cereal-monsanto-roundup-childrens-food