Religion and Ethics Forum
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Nearly Sane on August 30, 2018, 09:52:52 AM
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Surely this is a no brainer, if you are doing work emails, you are working
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-45333270
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Surely this is a no brainer, if you are doing work emails, you are working
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-45333270
Hmmmmmmmm, not sure about that.
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Hmmmmmmmm, not sure about that.
Why not?
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Why not?
How can you concentrate properly on work related e-mails on a busy commuter train, especially if you have to stand?
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How can you concentrate properly on work related e-mails on a busy commuter train, especially if you have to stand?
Very easily.
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Very easily.
I don't agree.
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I don't agree.
So you know all about what other people are like and what they are able to do?
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I don't agree.
It's pretty normal now.
Do you or did you as part of your job?
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So you know all about what other people are like and what they are able to do?
Seems the same could have been asked about your post.
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Seems the same could have been asked about your post.
In what way? If people are being productive while commuting it's a no brainer. Would they struggle to work in a 'busy office;?
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It's pretty normal now.
Do you or did you as part of your job?
They didn't have e-mails when I was a kid, which was when I last worked outside the home.
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Surely it counts as unpaid overtime?
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Personal emails read while supposedly working should count as not-work. Half the people at my mail centre spend half their time gazing at Satan's windows, as 'The Chap' magazine calls smartphones.
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What is the point of the article? You don't have to answer work emails when you are on the train.
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They didn't have e-mails when I was a kid, which was when I last worked outside the home.
Then you cannot really comment on this with any experience.
It is my experience that this is pretty normal now.
Not only that, I will take my phone on holiday in a couple of weeks, and spend 20 minutes each evening looking for important emails.
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Not only that, I will take my phone on holiday in a couple of weeks, and spend 20 minutes each evening looking for important emails.
Why? You're on holiday.
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Why? You're on holiday.
I'm important
Or I come back to a mess!
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I'm important
Or I come back to a mess!
I assume that if a mess is occurring in my company, the staff will phone or text me.
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I assume that if a mess is occurring in my company, the staff will phone or text me.
They email me, and it comes from all over the business, and it is an international business.
I do not spend too much time, I was making the point that keeping up with emails is now quite normal.
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They email me, and it comes from all over the business, and it is an international business.
I do not spend too much time, I was making the point that keeping up with emails is now quite normal.
I also spend a little time checking e-mails while on holiday. Occasionally I deal with really critical issues, but my main reason is to keep on top of the number. It means I avoid the need to deal with thousands of e-mails on my return, most of which aren't important. The problem with dealing with such a number on your return to work is that it is far too easy to miss the important ones amongst the dross.
The other advantage is that I come back to work knowing I'm not going to walk into a crisis - pre-email I used to dread heading back into work after being away for a couple of weeks as I never knew whether some serious shit might have hit the fan in my absence.
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In what way? If people are being productive while commuting it's a no brainer. Would they struggle to work in a 'busy office;?
LR said 'How can you concentrate properly on work related e-mails on a busy commuter train, especially if you have to stand?'
You said 'Very easily. '
LR said 'I don't agree.'
You said 'So you know all about what other people are like and what they are able to do?'
So surely your comment of 'Easily' suggests equally that you know what other people are like and what they are able to do.
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LR said 'How can you concentrate properly on work related e-mails on a busy commuter train, especially if you have to stand?'
You said 'Very easily. '
LR said 'I don't agree.'
You said 'So you know all about what other people are like and what they are able to do?'
So surely your comment of 'Easily' suggests equally that you know what other people are like and what they are able to do.
Perhaps NS was speaking only for himself. Speaking only for myself, I have no trouble whatsoever in isolating myself from the environment of a commuter train in order to concentrate on specific tasks, although they tend not to be work related.
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Perhaps NS was speaking only for himself. Speaking only for myself, I have no trouble whatsoever in isolating myself from the environment of a commuter train in order to concentrate on specific tasks, although they tend not to be work related.
Likewise, except when it is so rammed that you can hardly breath!
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Perhaps NS was speaking only for himself.
Yes, that could be the case of course.
Speaking only for myself, I have no trouble whatsoever in isolating myself from the environment of a commuter train in order to concentrate on specific tasks, although they tend not to be work related.
Thank fully I don't commute so don't have that problem. I do tend to look up work emails when at home, with the idea that I will be 'prepared' when I get to work and that that will make it easier but not sure it ever works that way.
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NS, JeremyP and Prof D are all commutes who say that they can carry out tasks while commuting. I've seen people doing this on trains myself.
Seems that there's some evidence from those of us who use trains or commute that it's perfectly possible.
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NS, JeremyP and Prof D are all commutes who say that they can carry out tasks while commuting. I've seen people doing this on trains myself.
Seems that there's some evidence from those of us who use trains or commute that it's perfectly possible.
But is it easy for everyone?
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But is it easy for everyone?
Who said that it was?
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Who said that it was?
Don't care to be honest.
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Don't care to be honest.
Who doesn't? ???
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Who doesn't? ???
Me. It was a passing comment of no great importance and can't be bothered with it anymore. Off to bed.
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I'd imagine those skilled at using mobile phones, which are essentially small computers that are internet connected via wi-fi: would find it easy enough.
I'm long since retired but it seems to me, based on watching my older grandchildren who effortlessly send texts, browse the internet, watch videos and listen to music while I taxi them around: sometimes they even use their phones to make phone calls. I occasionally take the train into the centre of Glasgow myself and I see a fair number of my fellow passengers sitting holding devices and their fingers and thumbs are flying, so I'd image anyone commuting to work as a passenger could easily check and answer e-mails with even minimal space as long as they have enough to be able to use their phone.
Even I can sit on a train and check the racing results on my phone - so I'd imagine the likes of NS, Jeremy and Prof D could easily 'work' before they get to work.
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Am I missing something?
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Am I missing something?
A point? If I spot it I'll let you know!
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NS, JeremyP and Prof D are all commutes who say that they can carry out tasks while commuting
To the point that I have occasionally missed my stop.
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But is it easy for everyone?
Yes - well, a lot of people.
Unless the train is packed to the point where it is full of standing passengers (as per PD's comment), it is quite easy to work on a commuter train because everybody is busy trying to create a cocoon of isolation for themselves.
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Yes - well, a lot of people.
Unless the train is packed to the point where it is full of standing passengers (as per PD's comment), it is quite easy to work on a commuter train because everybody is busy trying to create a cocoon of isolation for themselves.
That's right - the whole point about commuting is that you do it every day so it becomes routine and individuals adapt to that routine. And that means that will use that commuting time for a whole range of activities that they seem to be able to do very comfortably - working is only one of them. Others include reading books, newspapers, endless engagement on social media, conducting phonecalls, doing makeup!! etc etc.
Not everyone works on the train, and not all types of work are most amenable to being conducted on the train - but I suspect most regular commuters are able to work on the train if they choose.