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General Category => Politics & Current Affairs => Topic started by: Nearly Sane on October 23, 2018, 08:59:39 PM

Title: Bomb found in George Soros's mailbox
Post by: Nearly Sane on October 23, 2018, 08:59:39 PM

Presumably a false flag according to anti-semitic conspiracy theorists.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-bomb-soros/bomb-found-in-mailbox-at-george-soros-new-york-home-idUSKCN1MX0AQ
Title: Re: Bomb found in George Soros's mailbox
Post by: jeremyp on October 24, 2018, 01:51:24 PM
anti-semitic conspiracy theorists.

So is that conspiracy theorists who are anti-semitic, or is it theorists about anti-semitic conspiracies, or is it people who are against semitic conspiracy theorists or...

I vaguely remember George Soros being mentioned with respect to anti-semitism, but I can't remember which side he was on.
Title: Re: Bomb found in George Soros's mailbox
Post by: Roses on October 24, 2018, 03:20:47 PM
Explosive devices have also been sent to the Clintons and Obamas! :o

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news
Title: Re: Bomb found in George Soros's mailbox
Post by: Rhiannon on October 24, 2018, 05:13:20 PM
So is that conspiracy theorists who are anti-semitic, or is it theorists about anti-semitic conspiracies, or is it people who are against semitic conspiracy theorists or...

I vaguely remember George Soros being mentioned with respect to anti-semitism, but I can't remember which side he was on.

Given that he’s Jewish...
Title: Re: Bomb found in George Soros's mailbox
Post by: jeremyp on October 24, 2018, 07:31:36 PM
Given that he’s Jewish...
So probably not anti-semitic then....
Title: Re: Bomb found in George Soros's mailbox
Post by: The Accountant, OBE, KC on October 24, 2018, 08:05:44 PM
It appears George Soros is not liked by Netanyahu. Who decides what constitutes anti-semitism - the Jews at B'Tselem or the Netanyahu government?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/17/opinion/george-soros-israel-hungary.html

Quote
JAFFA, Israel — As a Holocaust survivor, a successful financier who embraces free market capitalism and a philanthropist who champions liberal democracy, George Soros should be a darling of the Israeli establishment. But Mr. Soros has failed the only litmus test that seems to count for Israel’s current leadership: unconditional support for the government, despite its policies of occupation, discrimination and disregard for civil and human rights....

...Through his Open Society Foundations, Mr. Soros also contributes to the Israeli human rights organization B’Tselem and the anti-occupation group Breaking the Silence, which have been subjected to a growing delegitimization campaign by the Israeli government.
Title: Re: Bomb found in George Soros's mailbox
Post by: SweetPea on October 24, 2018, 09:14:53 PM
Soros is a democrat, and Trump supporters can't stand him. They believe he organised (and paid) coach loads of people to turn up and demonstrate when Trump first took office. Whether there's any truth in that who knows.

It is interesting timing though - just before the mid-term elections.
Title: Re: Bomb found in George Soros's mailbox
Post by: Rhiannon on October 24, 2018, 09:41:13 PM
Has nothing whatsoever to do with this.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/21/steve-bannon-plans-foundation-to-fuel-far-right-in-europe
Title: Re: Bomb found in George Soros's mailbox
Post by: Roses on October 25, 2018, 09:09:39 AM
Trump is blaming the media for the bombs, what a hypocrite that man is! :(

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45973436
Title: Re: Bomb found in George Soros's mailbox
Post by: Rhiannon on October 25, 2018, 12:34:30 PM
The Graun on the US right and antisemitism.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/24/george-soros-antisemitism-bomb-attacks
Title: Re: Bomb found in George Soros's mailbox
Post by: Roses on October 25, 2018, 12:37:11 PM
Another device has been discovered, sent to Robert De Niro, a critic of Trump.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45975447
Title: Re: Bomb found in George Soros's mailbox
Post by: Rhiannon on October 26, 2018, 03:12:26 PM
I feel the need to point out that the reports of these bombs aren’t just Trump critics, they are people Trump has openly insulted and lied about. My feeling is that this isn’t so much about silencing Trump critics and pleasing him by eliminating those Trump has accused of being anti American.
Title: Re: Bomb found in George Soros's mailbox
Post by: Roses on October 26, 2018, 03:39:33 PM
I feel the need to point out that the reports of these bombs aren’t just Trump critics, they are people Trump has openly insulted and lied about. My feeling is that this isn’t so much about silencing Trump critics and pleasing him by eliminating those Trump has accused of being anti American.

I wonder if Trump knows who is planting these devices?
Title: Re: Bomb found in George Soros's mailbox
Post by: Rhiannon on October 26, 2018, 03:43:38 PM
I wonder if Trump knows who is planting these devices?

I doubt it. That’s not the point. He’s incited it.
Title: Re: Bomb found in George Soros's mailbox
Post by: Roses on October 26, 2018, 03:53:27 PM
I doubt it. That’s not the point. He’s incited it.

Nothing would surprise me about that awful man, but you are correct in saying he incited it.
Title: Re: Bomb found in George Soros's mailbox
Post by: Roses on October 26, 2018, 04:53:32 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45996655

Someone has been arrested in connection with these bombs.
Title: Re: Bomb found in George Soros's mailbox
Post by: Steve H on October 27, 2018, 08:07:26 AM
Trump and his toadies are suggesting that it's a false-flag (tiresome cliche beloved of conspiracy nuts) operation by Democrats, to give the right a bad name.
Title: Re: Bomb found in George Soros's mailbox
Post by: Roses on October 27, 2018, 09:05:35 AM
Trump and his toadies are suggesting that it's a false-flag (tiresome cliche beloved of conspiracy nuts) operation by Democrats, to give the right a bad name.

As one would expect from Trump and his mob.
Title: Re: Bomb found in George Soros's mailbox
Post by: Rhiannon on October 27, 2018, 11:36:51 AM
Trump and his toadies are suggesting that it's a false-flag (tiresome cliche beloved of conspiracy nuts) operation by Democrats, to give the right a bad name.

And people will believe it, just like they believe that the screaming children and parents at the border crossings are actors, not families distraught at being separated from each other.
Title: Re: Bomb found in George Soros's mailbox
Post by: jeremyp on October 27, 2018, 02:01:05 PM
Trump and his toadies are suggesting that it's a false-flag (tiresome cliche beloved of conspiracy nuts) operation by Democrats, to give the right a bad name.
The man they have arrested appears to have been a Trump supporter.
Title: Re: Bomb found in George Soros's mailbox
Post by: Steve H on October 27, 2018, 06:09:04 PM
The man they have arrested appears to have been a Trump supporter.
That won't shut up the right-wing conspiracy nuts. They'll just say he's a patsy.
Title: Re: Bomb found in George Soros's mailbox
Post by: Aruntraveller on October 28, 2018, 04:15:24 PM
Depressing:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/28/observer-view-donald-trump-vile-rhetoric-us-pipe-bomb-packages?CMP=fb_gu&fbclid=IwAR1PxizzlHt9aROb_ngg9njIw6M9I-fZJMyQTXE2PwYDEDHB099tcevpYsE