Religion and Ethics Forum
General Category => Politics & Current Affairs => Topic started by: Walt Zingmatilder on November 02, 2018, 09:41:34 AM
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Stephen Hawking.
I think Thatcher might qualify for her work on mixtures.
Dawkins? Might have spent too much time in popular science.
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Fucking Thatcher? Fuck the fuck off!
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Fucking Thatcher? Fuck the fuck off!
Apparently there was a failed Gammon crusade to have Thatcher on the £50 pound note but support for her was less than a unicorn to be on there.
Then to avoid another boatyard mcboatface (a comedy vote dry run for Brexit) they chose scientists to be the theme.
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Dawkins? Might have spent too much time in popular science.
He's disqualified by being alive. Apparently only dead people are allowed: Think science for the new £50 note (https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/50-pound-note-nominations).
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He's disqualified by being alive. Apparently only dead people are allowed: Think science for the new £50 note (https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/50-pound-note-nominations).
So we are to be deprived of a depiction of his wonderful hair......mind you Einsteins would have been harder to Forge.
Newton had wonderful hair but that might have been a wig.
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It'll probably be Hawking, he having recently handed in his dinner-pail, but other candidates might be:
Alexander Fleming;
Isaac Newton;
Robert Boyle;
Rosalind Franklin;
Ada Lovelace;
Charles Babbage;
Beatrix Potter.*
*She came up in a list of female British scientists. Apparently, her work in mycology was highly respected.
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It'll probably be Hawking, he having recently handed in his dinner-pail, but other candidates might be:
Alexander Fleming;
Isaac Newton;
Robert Boyle;
Rosalind Franklin;
Ada Lovelace;
Charles Babbage;
Beatrix Potter.*
*She came up in a list of female British scientists. Apparently, her work in mycology was highly respected.
Yes when asked about her love for mycology she said it was a fungi to be with.
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Yes when asked about her love for mycology she said it was a fungi to be with.
But it didn't leave mushroom in her diary for other activities.
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But ut didn't leave mushroom in her diary for other activities.
Apparently she was named for her mother who could Balance a pint of stout on the back of one hand, a pint of bitter on the other and a pint of lager on her head all at the same time.
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Apparently she was named for her mother who could Balance a pint of stout on the back of one hand, a pint of bitter on the other and a pint of lager on her head all at the same time.
Hop it with your terrible puns!
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Apparently she was named for her mother who could Balance a pint of stout on the back of one hand, a pint of bitter on the other and a pint of lager on her head all at the same time.
While Morris-dancing and farting La Marseillaise?
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It'll probably be Hawking, he having recently handed in his dinner-pail, but other candidates might be:
Alexander Fleming;
Isaac Newton;
Robert Boyle;
Rosalind Franklin;
Ada Lovelace;
Charles Babbage;
Beatrix Potter.*
*She came up in a list of female British scientists. Apparently, her work in mycology was highly respected.
Alan Turing
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Didn't we have Charles Babbage on something already? Years ago*.
I'd go for Alan Turing.
*No, a 22p postage stamp 1991. Dunno why I remembered that.
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Didn't we have Charles Babbage on something already? Years ago*.
I'd go for Alan Turing.
*No, a 22p postage stamp 1991. Dunno why I remembered that.
I think Turing might make some people uncomfortable with our past and how we treated people. It does me. And that's no bad thing, especially with the return of right wing values.
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Stephen Hawking.
I think Thatcher might qualify for her work on mixtures.
Dawkins? Might have spent too much time in popular science.
I think Stephen Hawking is too recent. Margaret Thatcher isn't known as a scientist and Richard Dawkins is still alive.
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It'll probably be Hawking, he having recently handed in his dinner-pail, but other candidates might be:
Alexander Fleming;
Isaac Newton;
Robert Boyle;
Rosalind Franklin;
Ada Lovelace;
Charles Babbage;
Beatrix Potter.*
*She came up in a list of female British scientists. Apparently, her work in mycology was highly respected.
Isaac Newton was on the last £1 note.
I thought about Rosalind Franklin, but if her, why not Francis Crick?
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Lovelace for me. I might have suggested Mary Somerville, but as she is on the RBS tenner, doesn't seem correct to be on two current UK notes.
In addition for consideration James Clerk Maxwell.
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Lovelace for me. I might have suggested Mary Somerville,
In addition for consideration James Clerk Maxwell.
Is that Ada or Linda?
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Is that Ada or Linda?
Linda Lovelace was not a scientist.
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Is that Ada or Linda?
;D ;D
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James Clarke-Maxwwell, yes, bhut he was more of a mathematician, wasn't he, even though he was way ahead of his time, creating equations or something which turned out to be just what was needed for quantum mechanics.
James Glaisher would be a good candidate for me at the moment - 'The Weather Experiment' by Peter Moor, he is one of the main characters in the search for an understanding of the weather and and analysis of it. He discovered what dew is and its dew point amongst his other prolific work and reports etc.
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James Clarke-Maxwwell, yes, bhut he was more of a mathematician, wasn't he, even though he was way ahead of his time, creating equations or something which turned out to be just what was needed for quantum mechanics.
He produced the (rather beautiful) classical theory of electromagnetism which predicted electromagnetic waves with a speed that was remarkably similar to the (already known) speed of light, and hence discovered the nature of light and predicted radio waves. The fact that the speed of light was a constant, was used by Einstein in the development of Special Relativity.
Having said all that, I'm inclined towards Alan Turing (who was a mathematician) for the reasons Rhiannon gave in #13 (http://www.religionethics.co.uk/index.php?topic=16295.msg753668#msg753668).
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Stephen Hawking gets my vote.
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James Clarke-Maxwwell, yes, bhut he was more of a mathematician, wasn't he, even though he was way ahead of his time, creating equations or something which turned out to be just what was needed for quantum mechanics.
James Glaisher would be a good candidate for me at the moment - 'The Weather Experiment' by Peter Moor, he is one of the main characters in the search for an understanding of the weather and and analysis of it. He discovered what dew is and its dew point amongst his other prolific work and reports etc.
I read a most interesting biography of him a while back and it was one of those books where it is such a pity to come to the end.
If there was such a thing as an after-life, I'd seek him out and tell him how much I admire his life and work!
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Isaac Newton was on the last £1 note.
I thought about Rosalind Franklin, but if her, why not Francis Crick?
Fleming was a (very) distant rellie of mine. Howver, he may have isolated peniccilin; he did not discover it.
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Fleming was a (very) distant rellie of mine. Howver, he may have isolated peniccilin; he did not discover it.
Indeed. Nor did he turn it into a usable drug.
"Without Fleming, no Chain; without Chain, no Florey; without Florey, no Heatley; without Heatley, no penicillin."
Fleming did realise its potential however.
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He discovered what dew is and its dew point amongst his other prolific work and reports etc.
Credit where credit is dew...
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Isaac Newton was on the last £1 note.
I thought about Rosalind Franklin, but if her, why not Francis Crick?
Because Crick and Watson got the Nobel prize, while Franklin was ignored. It's her turn for a bit of recognition. Also, I'd like it to be a woman.
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Paul Dirac
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Because Crick and Watson got the Nobel prize, while Franklin was ignored. It's her turn for a bit of recognition. Also, I'd like it to be a woman.
I have considerable sympathy with this suggestion.
Based on the same principle then ... either Rosalind Franklin or Norman Heatley.
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Having said all that, I'm inclined towards Alan Turing (who was a mathematician) for the reasons Rhiannon gave in #13 (http://www.religionethics.co.uk/index.php?topic=16295.msg753668#msg753668).
Alan Turing would be my choice, but for his achievements, not because he would make some people uncomfortable. In fact, I think, if that was the only reason, he would be a bad choice.
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James Clarke-Maxwwell, yes, bhut he was more of a mathematician, wasn't he, even though he was way ahead of his time, creating equations or something which turned out to be just what was needed for quantum mechanics.
James Glaisher would be a good candidate for me at the moment - 'The Weather Experiment' by Peter Moor, he is one of the main characters in the search for an understanding of the weather and and analysis of it. He discovered what dew is and its dew point amongst his other prolific work and reports etc.
Maxwell would be an excellent choice. I think he is in the Newton/Darwin league.
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Because Crick and Watson got the Nobel prize, while Franklin was ignored. It's her turn for a bit of recognition. Also, I'd like it to be a woman.
Franklin isn't ignored. Everybody knows about her now to the point where they'd rather put her on a bank note than the person who actually discovered the structure of DNA.
I'm not saying Franklin is not deserving of the honour. Her contribution to the work of Crick and Watson was actually only one small part of a very distinguished scientific career but, if you put the candidates in order of notability, Crick must come higher up the list.
And personally, I think this particular slot is for a scientist. I would rather a scientist be picked for their notability as a scientist, not for social justice reasons.
I have to admit that I am rethinking my choice of Alan Turing because I think I just disqualified him. He is not really known for his science but for his contribution to the British war effort.
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Maxwell would be an excellent choice. I think he is in the Newton/Darwin league.
I agree. my vote would be for James Clerk Maxwell as well.
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I agree. my vote would be for James Clerk Maxwell as well.
What do you mean "would be"? Here is the place to vote
https://app.keysurvey.co.uk/f/1348443/10fc/
Make sure you spell his name right.
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hmm...
I can't see why scientists have been relegated to being pictured on a note that is hardly ever used except by tax evaders :'(
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What do you mean "would be"? Here is the place to vote
https://app.keysurvey.co.uk/f/1348443/10fc/
Make sure you spell his name right.
Cheers, Jeremy
I have voted. I spelled his name exactly as I did in post 33. Hope you find that satisfactory.
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hmm...
I can't see why scientists have been relegated to being pictured on a note that is hardly ever used except by tax evaders :'(
On the other hand, the highest-value note might be considered the most prestigious. I mean - hardly anyone drives a Rolls-Royce, but they are much posher than a mini.
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hmm...
I can't see why scientists have been relegated to being pictured on a note that is hardly ever used except by tax evaders :'(
It's a scheme by the OU to educate Del Boys.
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So it's Turing. Perfectly fine choice. Not mine. But not objectionable.
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So it's Turing. Perfectly fine choice. Not mine. But not objectionable.
It was mine, but, as I said above, I Did have second thoughts.
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Ada Lovelace would've been a good choice - a scientist and a woman. So would Charles Babbage, whom she collaborated with. Turing is ok, though I suspect the gay lobby had a lot to do with his choice.
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Ada Lovelace would've been a good choice - a scientist and a woman. So would Charles Babbage, whom she collaborated with. Turing is ok, though I suspect the gay lobby had a lot to do with his choice.
Gay lobby?
Is this like an ordinary lobby but painted rainbow colours.
Bollocks.
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Gay lobby?
Is this like an ordinary lobby but painted rainbow colours.
Bollocks.
Come now, trent, the gay lobby leads onto the camp sitting room, and the bisexual kitchen, thence the lesbian garden. In the endeavour to get Turing on the nifty, the gay lobby were supported by the PC Brigades (both politically correct and personal computer), and the autism spectra.