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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Nearly Sane on February 15, 2019, 02:38:17 PM
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By dialect and speech
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/02/15/upshot/british-irish-dialect-quiz.html
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I was brought up to speak received English, which has stood me in good stead. However, I would occasionally revert to my island accent to wind my English mother up. ;D
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96 questions, and after all that I couldn't see the bloody results properly. Anyway, I have a fairly thick East London accent and speech typical of anyone who grew up there in the 70's and 80's, something my mum has never been too fond of.
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Born and bred Lallans speaker - despite theefforts of the education system to beat it out of me - sometimes literally.
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S E London born. Still live there. Speak normally and clearly. My dad is also from same area, Bromley but mum was from Yorkshire, she kept her Yorkshire accent, quite a gentle one.
My brother in law (sister's husband) is from Edinburgh, his younger sister lives down here (fell in love and married a Bromley man), his older sister lives in Edinburgh and wants us to go there for the festival; I'm not much into travelling at present but would love my kids to go and see all their cousins. She has three children and, so far, four grands. She comes down here fairly frequently, we all love her. She & her family will be here for my daughter's wedding in April.
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S E London born. Still live there. Speak normally and clearly. My dad is also from same area, Bromley but mum was from Yorkshire, she kept her Yorkshire accent, quite a gentle one.
My brother in law (sister's husband) is from Edinburgh, his younger sister lives down here (fell in love and married a Bromley man), his older sister lives in Edinburgh and wants us to go there for the festival; I'm not much into travelling at present but would love my kids to go and see all their cousins. She has three children and, so far, four grands. She comes down here fairly frequently, we all love her. She & her family will be here for my daughter's wedding in April.
I trty hard to avoid the capital at festival times.
I love Edinburgh dearly, but navigating the streets with a long cane in Ausust/September is a nightmare of epic proportions.
What always amuses me are the amount of numpties who insist on trying to thrust flyers into my hands despite the rather obvious long cane hitting their ankles.......
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My mother came from Cheshire, but didn't have a northern accent, nor did her Lancashire born mother. My Guernsey born father was half Irish, there again he spoke clear English with no accent.
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By dialect and speech
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/02/15/upshot/british-irish-dialect-quiz.html
A friend of mine introduced this quiz to me last Friday. I found it very interesting, and caused me to think hard about how I would have pronounced words in my childhood or used local phraseology.
The first part of the origins search correctly identified me as being a native of Norfolk (predominantly), with a strong suggestion of a lot of London influence. Paradoxically, as I continued to refine the search, I was still considered mostly a Norfolk dumpling, but with large admixtures of London, Geordie, and a certain small pocket of influence from the Welsh/Herefordshire border.
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A friend of mine introduced this quiz to me last Friday. I found it very interesting, and caused me to think hard about how I would have pronounced words in my childhood or used local phraseology.
The first part of the origins search correctly identified me as being a native of Norfolk (predominantly), with a strong suggestion of a lot of London influence. Paradoxically, as I continued to refine the search, I was still considered mostly a Norfolk dumpling, but with large admixtures of London, Geordie, and a certain small pocket of influence from the Welsh/Herefordshire border.
Yes, the first section was very accurate for me but when answering more questions other areas were added although the original accurate area remained.
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Just did the quiz - it says I'm from the west of Scotland, though I already knew that.
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I trty hard to avoid the capital at festival times.
I love Edinburgh dearly, but navigating the streets with a long cane in Ausust/September is a nightmare of epic proportions.
What always amuses me are the amount of numpties who insist on trying to thrust flyers into my hands despite the rather obvious long cane hitting their ankles.......
Yeah, I don't like crowds. Last time I was driven off pavement was in Padstow and 't'was a nightmare. Didn't even get into a Rick Stein place.
Never heard of Lallan accent, Anchor. You will have to do a bit for me.
Ithink HMB & I prob'ly speak alike.
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Yeah, I don't like crowds. Last time I was driven off pavement was in Padstow and 't'was a nightmare. Didn't even get into a Rick Stein place.
Never heard of Lallan accent, Anchor. You will have to do a bit for me.
Ithink HMB & I prob'ly speak alike.
Scots isa distinct language from tEnglish; though mainlysimilar,it split around the fourteenth century. Many linguists say it's closer to Anglo-Saxon than modern Englishis!
There has been input into the tongue from Norse, Flemish, Gaelic andFrench, but there are essentally two types of Scots;
Soric isspoken in the North East, and Lallans in the south. Both are dialects of Scots, and both have sub-divisions, but can sound pretty different.
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I'm from Yorkshire and I'm the only person I know who doesn't speak with an accent !!!
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My husband's first teaching post was is Derbyshire. We bought a bungalow in a small village, where the people spoke with a very strong Derbyshire accent, we found it very hard to understand what they were saying until our ears got attuned.
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My husband's first teaching post was is Derbyshire. We bought a bungalow in a small village, where the people spoke with a very strong Derbyshire accent, we found it very hard to understand what they were saying until our ears got attuned.
back in the old days my grandad was an ear tuner in a small village in Derbyshire . Small world!
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back in the old days my grandad was an ear tuner in a small village in Derbyshire . Small world!
I had never heard the term 'ear tuner' before.
In which small village did your grandfather live? We lived in Pilsley, my husband was a chemistry teacher at Chesterfield Grammar school, as it was then. We were amused when we discovered people grew potatoes on the Pilsley church graveyard.
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back in the old days my grandad was an ear tuner in a small village in Derbyshire . Small world!
I hoped that everyone paid him on times, you wouldn't want to be in arrears to an ear tuner.
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I had never heard the term 'ear tuner' before.
In which small village did your grandfather live? We lived in Pilsley, my husband was a chemistry teacher at Chesterfield Grammar school, as it was then. We were amused when we discovered people grew potatoes on the Pilsley church graveyard.
ear tuners were people who offered corrective audio training in remote Derbyshire villages to people who were from far off places and could not understand the locals.
Originally he was from a village called Hope , well someone has to live there !
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I hoped that everyone paid him on times, you wouldn't want to be in arrears to an ear tuner.
I cant help myself ;D
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ear tuners were people who offered corrective audio training in remote Derbyshire villages to people who were from far off places and could not understand the locals.
Originally he was from a village called Hope , well someone has to live there !
There is a village called 'Hope' not far from where we live now, in North Wales, our GP's surgery is there.
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There is a village called 'Hope' not far from where we live now, in North Wales, our GP's surgery is there.
so it's true then , some people DO live in Hope .
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so it's true then , some people DO live in Hope .
The annual triumph over the villagers of Experience is a thing to see
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The annual triumph over the villagers of Experience is a thing to see
I know , I've seen it !
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I know , I've seen it !
You definitely need your ears tuned after it
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Accents I find fascinating. I've always liked the Yorkshire accent and is part of England I've always been fond of too. Northumbrian accent I like too (that is when I can understand it). They pronounce their consonants a lot like Londoners.
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You definitely need your ears tuned after it
pardon?
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Accents I find fascinating. I've always liked the Yorkshire accent and is part of England I've always been fond of too. Northumbrian accent I like too (that is when I can understand it). They pronounce their consonants a lot like Londoners.
It's fascinating how precise some accents can be. Less common now but one of the things that used to be mainly true in the West of Scotland was that you could make a good guess about someone's religion based on how they said 'stair' and 'bear'
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It's fascinating how precise some accents can be. Less common now but one of the things that used to be mainly true in the West of Scotland was that you could make a good guess about someone's religion based on how they said 'stair' and 'bear'
Exactly the kind of thing I mean. Fascinating stuff. Always lived languages and trying to imitate accents.
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Exactly the kind of thing I mean. Fascinating stuff. Always lived languages and trying to imitate accents.
The quiz asked about what word you use to play truant. I went to a primary school where I skidged. When I went to secondary school 20 miles away, I dogged.
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The quiz asked about what word you use to play truant. I went to a primary school where I skidged. When I went to secondary school 20 miles away, I dogged.
We used to bunk school.
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The quiz asked about what word you use to play truant. I went to a primary school where I skidged. When I went to secondary school 20 miles away, I dogged.
I think you mean 'twaggin' it' old chap .
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If I had played truant I would have had the living daylights thrashed out of me. :o
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If I had played truant I would have had the living daylights thrashed out of me. :o
My mum had similar ideas until she realised I was big enough to stop her.
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If I had played truant I would have had the living daylights thrashed out of me. :o
I remember one time telling the teacher I wasn't coming in in the afternoon , he asked if I had a note from my parents ?
' no sir, I don't need one , I can write my own . I'm 18 and I've got my own car '
He just smiled and walked away . Happy days , ahhh!
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21 was the age of majority when I was young.
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21 was the age of majority when I was young.
come off it , you were never young !!!! :o
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The quiz asked about what word you use to play truant. I went to a primary school where I skidged. When I went to secondary school 20 miles away, I dogged.
Well, 'plunking'was theterm inmy area, and the usual consequence wassix of the tawse.
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Well, 'plunking'was theterm inmy area, and the usual consequence wassix of the tawse.
And that's only just down the road, and another completely different term.
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Well, 'plunking'was theterm inmy area, and the usual consequence wassix of the tawse.
LOL! Trying to imagune that in your accent. :) For me it was just getting smacked with a belt.
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And that's only just down the road, and another completely different term.
Some teacherscalled the belt the Lochgelly, others thetawse.
The slangtermforthethingwas the nick.
I had myshare encounterswith it....youcouldjudgea teacher'sability by thestrength of his/her strokes.
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LOL! Trying to imagune that in your accent. :) For me it was just getting smacked with a belt.
My secondary school had a system where you got given a chitty for the number of belt you were to receive. It was referred to as a bill, and you had two chances to 'cash' it, as there was a belting teacher at 1.10pm and 4pm in a room that you queued up outside to be belted in turn. If a particularly thuggish teacher was belting you might take a punt on the second opportunity. The bills would have your name, the offence, and the number you were to receive. The number would be written as 4f or 6f, or whatever had been determined, up to 12 which you were allowed to cash over 2 separate beltings. The f stood for ferula.
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I recall one English teacher - and she happened to BE English -belting me for using the Scots "Aye" rather than "Yes". The woman could draw the tawse - she was an adept in delivering maximum pain. The taws was manufactured in Lochgelly, Fife...and was no mere leather belt. It was adapted from the old Scots horse whip, was half an inch thick, had two leather tongues, and was bloomin painful when delivered by a powerful arm! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-39044445
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Teachers were cruel, but there occasions when I thought punishment was justified. I remember one kid getting a full slap to the face. Felt an urge to laugh.
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The joy of violence to children.
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The joy of violence to children.
For me it was more of a nervous laugh. I remember it was our art teacher who everyone knew was going out with another teacher. Anyway, some pupil said something well out of order. Teacher was smoking a fag on his stool and said "Come here!" The kid walked over and the teacher wacked him full blast. Never forget it.
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For me it was more of a nervous laugh. I remember it was our art teacher who everyone knew was going out with another teacher. Anyway, some pupil said something well out of order. Teacher was smoking a fag on his stool and said "Come here!" The kid walked over and the teacher wacked him full blast. Never forget it.
Still, if a child is beaten it's just a good laugh
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The quiz asked about what word you use to play truant. I went to a primary school where I skidged. When I went to secondary school 20 miles away, I dogged.
Skive off for me. Not that I ever did ::)
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Still, if a child is beaten it's just a good laugh
No, that's not what I mean. He probably deserved it but I don't believe in hitting kids. It was just one if those things when I suffered from a nervous laugh. I remwmber when I went to see my grandad's body. Almost suffered from the same thing. Nervous laugh, that's all.
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And that is a reasonable reaction, but violence against children is just not funny
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And that is a reasonable reaction, but violence against children is just not funny
No it isn't. No argument from me.