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General Category => Politics & Current Affairs => Topic started by: Nearly Sane on September 21, 2019, 05:27:04 PM

Title: Horse racing bad?
Post by: Nearly Sane on September 21, 2019, 05:27:04 PM

The politics of gigs

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-49780732
Title: Re: Horse racing bad?
Post by: Roses on September 21, 2019, 05:35:33 PM
I have never been to a horse race in my life, or ever wish to do so. However, I cannot see that horse races can do a horse much good, especially if the whip is involved. Bookies would no doubt have apoplexy if horse racing was banned as they make a fortune out of human stupidity, which is my opinion on the topic of gambling.
Title: Re: Horse racing bad?
Post by: Nearly Sane on September 21, 2019, 06:37:58 PM
If horse races don't exist, the horses in them aren't going to.
Title: Re: Horse racing bad?
Post by: Robbie on September 21, 2019, 07:01:35 PM
There are some races that are dangerous, the Grand National for one & the Melbourne Cup appears to be the same. However overall race horses are pretty well cared for and loved by the staff of the stables.
Title: Re: Horse racing bad?
Post by: Gordon on September 21, 2019, 07:11:17 PM
I'm a fan: have been ever since I was young, and I was involved with horse riding from my teens until until my mid 50's, having had my own horse(s) over a number of years, as had other members of my family. I've even ridden 'work' in a racing yard (exercising racehorses) and would have loved to have ridden in races, but sadly my enthusiasm didn't compensate for my lack of talent.

I do appreciate that some may disapprove of the sport.
Title: Re: Horse racing bad?
Post by: Robbie on September 21, 2019, 10:37:44 PM
I love horses. My sister wanted her own horse and eventually stables, she was horse mad, but she had a bad accident and decided she would be a physiotherapist instead, she was very impressed by those who worked with her on her rehabilitation. She carried on riding after a while, still does sometimes, all our children were quite good riders. I only ride on holiday now but do enjoy it.
Title: Re: Horse racing bad?
Post by: Aruntraveller on September 21, 2019, 10:52:27 PM
"Horses: dangerous on both ends and crafty in the middle"

Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.

About sums it up for me.
Title: Re: Horse racing bad?
Post by: Steve H on September 22, 2019, 05:47:13 AM
Yes, steeplechases are dangerous, and horses are sometimes badly injured - but so are jockeys, and they continue to do it. The horses, like the jockeys, are volunteers: you couldn't force a horse to race if it didn't want to, and, since many humans enjoy extreme physical exertion with an element of danger, it's reasonable to assume that horses do, as well. Therefore, don't ban it, and also don't over-regulate it, though some regulation is no doubt necessary.
Title: Re: Horse racing bad?
Post by: Roses on September 22, 2019, 08:28:48 AM
Yes, steeplechases are dangerous, and horses are sometimes badly injured - but so are jockeys, and they continue to do it. The horses, like the jockeys, are volunteers: you couldn't force a horse to race if it didn't want to, and, since many humans enjoy extreme physical exertion with an element of danger, it's reasonable to assume that horses do, as well. Therefore, don't ban it, and also don't over-regulate it, though some regulation is no doubt necessary.

Horses are volunteers, REALLY? So they can figure out the advantages and dangers of the sport in the same way as humans can they?
Title: Re: Horse racing bad?
Post by: SusanDoris on September 22, 2019, 03:27:37 PM
Horses are volunteers, REALLY? So they can figure out the advantages and dangers of the sport in the same way as humans can they?
Of course not! :) But as steveH says, I think it is extremely unlikely that a horse that does not want to race will do so.
Title: Re: Horse racing bad?
Post by: Nearly Sane on September 22, 2019, 03:36:13 PM
Of course not! :) But as steveH says, I think it is extremely unlikely that a horse that does not want to race will do so.
If you are trained that the better you do, the better you are fed, then are you making the calculation that while you might die racing it's worth it?
Title: Re: Horse racing bad?
Post by: SusanDoris on September 22, 2019, 05:48:15 PM
If you are trained that the better you do, the better you are fed, then are you making the calculation that while you might die racing it's worth it?
For some humans, that may be what they decided, but mo, I do not  believe   a horse can do the appropriate calculations!
Title: Re: Horse racing bad?
Post by: Walter on September 22, 2019, 08:47:19 PM
For some humans, that may be what they decided, but mo, I do not  believe   a horse can do the appropriate calculations!
course they can . I used to watch Mr Ed.
Title: Re: Horse racing bad?
Post by: Aruntraveller on September 23, 2019, 08:05:41 AM
A horse is a horse of course, of course,
And no one can talk to horse, of course,
Unless the horse of course, is the famous Mr Ed.
Title: Re: Horse racing bad?
Post by: Walter on September 23, 2019, 03:36:38 PM
A horse is a horse of course, of course,
And no one can talk to horse, of course,
Unless the horse of course, is the famous Mr Ed.
actually I watched the repeats, I'm only 27 😳