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Title: 'Dreich' is named most popular Scots word by Scottish Book Trust
Post by: Nearly Sane on November 20, 2019, 07:19:42 AM
Good to see outwith on the list


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-50476008
Title: Re: 'Dreich' is named most popular Scots word by Scottish Book Trust
Post by: Gordon on November 20, 2019, 07:25:12 AM
Yes - I use 'outwith' quite a lot, and it is certainly dreich this morning.

I'd have thought, in these politically fractious times, that 'stushie' would have been on the list.
Title: Re: 'Dreich' is named most popular Scots word by Scottish Book Trust
Post by: Nearly Sane on November 20, 2019, 07:34:21 AM
I remember writing a report in my first 'proper' job in London and getting asked about 'outwith' and 'timeously'.
Title: Re: 'Dreich' is named most popular Scots word by Scottish Book Trust
Post by: Steve H on November 20, 2019, 07:50:28 AM
"Dreich" must be one of the most-used words in Scotland.

"Weather forecast, ye ken:
Monday - dreich.
Tureday - dreich.
Wedensday - dreich.
Thursday - gey dreich.
Friday - dreich.
Saturday - drookit.
Sunday - dreich."
Title: Re: 'Dreich' is named most popular Scots word by Scottish Book Trust
Post by: Roses on November 20, 2019, 08:41:06 AM
"Dreich" must be one of the most-used words in Scotland.

"Weather forecast, ye ken:
Mondasy - dreich.
Tureday - dreich.
Wedensday - dreich.
Thursday - very dreich.
Friday - dreich.
Saturday - extremely dreich.
Sunday - dreich."

I agree that was how it was on the occasions we ventured north of the border. Oh blimey why is there an army of blokes in skirts marching in our direction? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 'Dreich' is named most popular Scots word by Scottish Book Trust
Post by: Gordon on November 20, 2019, 09:44:36 AM
"Dreich" must be one of the most-used words in Scotland.

"Weather forecast, ye ken:
Mondasy - dreich.
Tureday - dreich.
Wedensday - dreich.
Thursday - very dreich.
Friday - dreich.
Saturday - extremely dreich.
Sunday - dreich."

Thinking about Thursdays and Sundays, and the vernacular in this part of the world, I've never heard either 'very' or 'extremely' used in conjunction with 'dreich': what you would hear though is 'gey' dreich, which indicates that the degree of dreichness is damper than just a smirr but could not yet be thought of as approaching drookit levels of precipitation.

Hopefully Anchorman will drop in shortly to provide authoritative guidance on these key linguistic points.
Title: Re: 'Dreich' is named most popular Scots word by Scottish Book Trust
Post by: Outrider on November 20, 2019, 10:55:47 AM
I can imagine much of my mother's family telling me that it was 'awfy dreich', if the occasion warranted, but I'd agree it wouldn't 'very' or 'extremely' dreich.

O.
Title: Re: 'Dreich' is named most popular Scots word by Scottish Book Trust
Post by: Steve H on November 20, 2019, 01:40:59 PM
Thinking about Thursdays and Sundays, and the vernacular in this part of the world, I've never heard either 'very' or 'extremely' used in conjunction with 'dreich': what you would hear though is 'gey' dreich, which indicates that the degree of dreichness is damper than just a smirr but could not yet be thought of as approaching drookit levels of precipitation.

Hopefully Anchorman will drop in shortly to provide authoritative guidance on these key linguistic points.
Modified.
Title: Re: 'Dreich' is named most popular Scots word by Scottish Book Trust
Post by: Gordon on November 20, 2019, 02:14:39 PM
Modified.

We'll make a Scotsman of you yet, Steve  :)
Title: Re: 'Dreich' is named most popular Scots word by Scottish Book Trust
Post by: Roses on November 20, 2019, 02:57:08 PM
We'll make a Scotsman of you yet, Steve  :)

NO, NO, NO, NO that would make him even worse! :P ;D ;D ;D

I am joking of course, :) my late aunt by marriage was from Bonnie Scotland and so is our middle daughter's husband.
Title: Re: 'Dreich' is named most popular Scots word by Scottish Book Trust
Post by: Nearly Sane on November 20, 2019, 03:02:05 PM
Have to admit that I am disappointed that numpty isn't on the list
Title: Re: 'Dreich' is named most popular Scots word by Scottish Book Trust
Post by: Steve H on November 20, 2019, 10:20:40 PM
My maternal grandfather was half-Scottish on his father's side. His name was Miller, and the Scottish Millers are associated with the Clan MacFarlane.
Title: Re: 'Dreich' is named most popular Scots word by Scottish Book Trust
Post by: Roses on November 21, 2019, 08:43:10 AM
Just out of interest do the Scottish guys on this forum wear kilts? It is rare for my son-in-law not to wear one.
Title: Re: 'Dreich' is named most popular Scots word by Scottish Book Trust
Post by: Outrider on November 21, 2019, 08:50:48 AM
Just out of interest do the Scottish guys on this forum wear kilts? It is rare for my son-in-law not to wear one.

I'm entitle, I gather, to wear Buchanan or Douglas Grey, but I've never done so.  I'm not Scottish, I'm British, and it feels to me like trying to lay claim to something I only have a technical, not genuine right to.

O.
Title: Re: 'Dreich' is named most popular Scots word by Scottish Book Trust
Post by: Steve H on November 21, 2019, 08:55:54 AM
Is it pronouned "drike" or "dreek", or something else entirely?
Title: Re: 'Dreich' is named most popular Scots word by Scottish Book Trust
Post by: Outrider on November 21, 2019, 08:57:39 AM
Is it pronouned "drike" or "dreek", or something else entirely?

The long 'e' that you get in reed, followed by the aspirated 'k' that you should get at the end of 'loch' (similar to the Welsh 'll' in 'Llandudno', but a little harder)

O.
Title: Re: 'Dreich' is named most popular Scots word by Scottish Book Trust
Post by: Steve H on November 21, 2019, 08:59:22 AM
Thanks (pronounced "thanks")
Title: Re: 'Dreich' is named most popular Scots word by Scottish Book Trust
Post by: Nearly Sane on November 21, 2019, 09:17:37 AM
On occasion at occasions. I own one but haven't worn it in a long time - same for the dinner suit. The kilt isn't in any particular tartan that I'm connected with - it was a friend's but he got too fat for it so I bought it from him. The last kilt I wore was a modern take in grey at a gay Jewish wedding 5 or so yeas ago. It's pretty rare generally though I know someone who wears a kilt every day.
Title: Re: 'Dreich' is named most popular Scots word by Scottish Book Trust
Post by: Gordon on November 21, 2019, 09:33:59 AM
Never worn a kilt, and have no intention of doing so - for a start I don't have the height (or knees) to carry it off, though my son and grandson do, and I opted for a suit for the weddings of my children.

In more general terms I'm not a fan of stereotypical 'shortbread-tin' portrayals of Scotland, songs about longing for mountains, lochs and heather and I can't stand the unmusical racket perpetrated by bagpipers.
Title: Re: 'Dreich' is named most popular Scots word by Scottish Book Trust
Post by: Steve H on November 21, 2019, 09:49:07 AM

In more general terms I'm not a fan of stereotypical 'shortbread-tin' portrayals of Scotland, songs about longing for mountains, lochs and heather and I can't stand the unmusical racket perpetrated by bagpipers.
You sound like my late fater, who was from Yorkshire, but disliked "professional Yorkshiremen".
Title: Re: 'Dreich' is named most popular Scots word by Scottish Book Trust
Post by: Roses on November 21, 2019, 11:36:04 AM
On occasion at occasions. I own one but haven't worn it in a long time - same for the dinner suit. The kilt isn't in any particular tartan that I'm connected with - it was a friend's but he got too fat for it so I bought it from him. The last kilt I wore was a modern take in grey at a gay Jewish wedding 5 or so yeas ago. It's pretty rare generally though I know someone who wears a kilt every day.

My son-in-law prefers wearing a kilt to wearing trousers, wearing them when not at work. He wore the full Scottish regalia when he married our girl in 1998. If he lived in Scotland this might not be considered strange, but he  lives in England. Even though he was born in Scotland of Scottish parents, he doesn't have a Scottish accent, as he has lived most of his 51 years south of the border.
Title: Re: 'Dreich' is named most popular Scots word by Scottish Book Trust
Post by: Nearly Sane on November 21, 2019, 02:46:50 PM
Moderator Some posts regarding Alex Salmond have been removed and merged with ongoing thread on this

http://www.religionethics.co.uk/index.php?topic=16041.0
Title: Re: 'Dreich' is named most popular Scots word by Scottish Book Trust
Post by: Gordon on November 24, 2019, 09:17:12 AM
Have to admit that I am disappointed that numpty isn't on the list

I made a mental note to remember any words that I heard, or said, over the last couple of days or so that might have made the list: I give you 'laldy', 'stoater' and 'bahookie'.
Title: Re: 'Dreich' is named most popular Scots word by Scottish Book Trust
Post by: Anchorman on November 24, 2019, 09:29:20 AM
 It's been a wee bit dreich these last twa days, mind...but the days afore were braw, wi' cauld, clear mornins an nichts fu'o staurs.
There wis a smir o rain this mornin, tho naethin tae fash masel wi as a get ma claes getherit theguther tae gang ma gate tae the Kirk.
I'll hae the smeddum tae hap masel weel, as there's a wee souch in the air.
Title: Re: 'Dreich' is named most popular Scots word by Scottish Book Trust
Post by: Roses on November 24, 2019, 10:32:36 AM
It's been a wee bit dreich these last twa days, mind...but the days afore were braw, wi' cauld, clear mornins an nichts fu'o staurs.
There wis a smir o rain this mornin, tho naethin tae fash masel wi as a get ma claes getherit theguther tae gang ma gate tae the Kirk.
I'll hae the smeddum tae hap masel weel, as there's a wee souch in the air.

And in English? ;D
Title: Re: 'Dreich' is named most popular Scots word by Scottish Book Trust
Post by: Anchorman on November 24, 2019, 01:59:52 PM
And in English? ;D
   


Eh? Can ye no jalouse the Scots leid?