Religion and Ethics Forum
General Category => Literature, Music, Art & Entertainment => Topic started by: Nearly Sane on December 29, 2019, 06:07:28 PM
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The Scots accent on screen
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03ngvgl/dream-me-up-scotty
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The Scots accent on screen
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03ngvgl/dream-me-up-scotty
dont have the capacity to look at that 😤
But I'd like to ask something
I keep hearing about deforestation
Didn't he play the part of Bones in. Star Trek ??
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I watched this the first time it was shown. If I recall, Harry Lauder was mentioned. I'll aye mind Jimmie Macgregor (ex folk singer( remarking...."He should have bloody kept on to the end of the road....and jumped." Critics, eh?
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I watched this the first time it was shown. If I recall, Harry Lauder was mentioned. I'll aye mind Jimmie Macgregor (ex folk singer( remarking...."He should have bloody kept on to the end of the road....and jumped." Critics, eh?
I think one of the most interesting things from my point of view was the importance of Peter MacDougall's plays. As a Greenockian there is an ambivalence about the success since while carrying a truth it's also worrisome that it in some ways it can be seen as glorifying it.
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I think one of the most interesting things from my point of view was the importance of Peter MacDougall's plays. As a Greenockian there is an ambivalence about the success since while carrying a truth it's also worrisome that it in some ways it can be seen as glorifying it.
The old idea of treating the accent - or accents as only comedic add-ons went hand-in-hand with the virtual suppression of the Scots language as well.
I remember getting belted at primary school for not 'speaking properly' eleven months of the year, then being force fed Burns for a fortnight in January each yeaar, causing cultural confusion.
At least, with the resource known as 'the Kist', and a more enlightened attitude, Scots seems to be holding its' own - a thriving underground poetry scene, the trad music, and University studies at degree level, and now secomndary education qualifications in Scots literature are all helping.
Playwrights such as McDougal, Tony Roper and Liz Lockhead have been trail blazers.
Mind you, this year marked the 100th anniversary of Hamish Henderson's birth, and I think we owe him, and his 'School of Scottish Studies' a great debt.
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Of course the funniest thing on the programme was Brian Sewell on complaining about an accent making things incomprehensible in his bizarre incomprehensible accent.
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Of course the funniest thing on the programme was Brian Sewell on complaining about an accent making things incomprehensible in his bizarre incomprehensible accent.
Yep...I remember using fruity language when that pompous oaf startedd bleating with 'bools in his mooth'.....
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Yep...I remember using fruity language when that pompous oaf startedd bleating with 'bools in his mooth'.....
Of course there is a question about comprehensibility that haunts general Scottish attitudes.
http://scotshaunbuik.co.uk/wp/?p=3399
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Of course there is a question about comprehensibility that haunts general Scottish attitudes.
http://scotshaunbuik.co.uk/wp/?p=3399
The 'Scottish cringe'?
Yes...a product of the education system which saw Scots as 'slang' or 'improper English'.
Sadly that attitude seems ingrained.
I recall one primary teacher who was on a crusade to 'belt the slang out of you'...and she made every effort to do so.
What undermined her effort, however, was that, as soon as she left the day job, she was perfectly happy to use Scots in her everyday speech....until one minute to nine the following morning.
Since she lived locally, her class was familiar with this Jekyl-and-Hyde transformation, and emulated both personae.
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The 'Scottish cringe'?
Yes...a product of the education system which saw Scots as 'slang' or 'improper English'.
Sadly that attitude seems ingrained.
I recall one primary teacher who was on a crusade to 'belt the slang out of you'...and she made every effort to do so.
What undermined her effort, however, was that, as soon as she left the day job, she was perfectly happy to use Scots in her everyday speech....until one minute to nine the following morning.
Since she lived locally, her class was familiar with this Jekyl-and-Hyde transformation, and emulated both personae.
I think there is a balance to be struck and we have to avoid the opposite of the cringe which seems to embrace incomprehensibility for the sake of it. As someone with a generic Scots accent in part modulated to help people from round the world that I work with, too often have some seen that either as some betrayal of class/country, or something which is indicative of my sexuality.