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General Category => Politics & Current Affairs => Topic started by: Nearly Sane on May 01, 2020, 01:34:51 PM
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@Survation
Poll – Westminster Voting Intention: CON 48% (+4) LAB 31% (-2) LD 8% (-3) GRN 5% (+2) SNP 4% (-) PC 1% (-) BXP 1% (-1) OTH 3% (-)
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@Survation
Poll – Westminster Voting Intention: CON 48% (+4) LAB 31% (-2) LD 8% (-3) GRN 5% (+2) SNP 4% (-) PC 1% (-) BXP 1% (-1) OTH 3% (-)
That surprises me a bit, I thought the Tories would be down instead of up!
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That surprises me a bit, I thought the Tories would be down instead of up!
Not really a surprise. At times of crisis nations tend to "support" their governments. Plus it's not like msm has really done much of a job of holding them to account for their mistakes. Add to that the fact that parliament hasn't been sitting, so not much of a voice from the opposition.
And then there have been the lies.
Given time it may change depending somewhat on how the meejah reacts long term.
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Nearly five years to the next election, so plenty of time for that to change. "There's a Starmer, waiting in the wings..."
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That surprises me a bit, I thought the Tories would be down instead of up!
In times of crisis, it's normal for the government to get a bump in its popularity rating. Following 9/11 GW Bush's approval rating went up from about 50% to nearly 90%.
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it's not like msm has really done much of a job of holding them to account for their mistakes.
Really? I think they've done pretty well.
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Really? I think they've done pretty well.
There have been the odd standouts - The Guardian, Sunday Times, some of the online stuff - so Indy and Huff, and surprisingly (because I'm so used to disagreeing with him) Piers Morgan on GMTV, Panorama did well on PPE but the rest of the BBC has been pretty supine. Ditto ITN. And the rest of the papers? "Now that is a Good Friday" TM the Sun on Boris' return from hospital just as we were hitting peak death.
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When Keir Starmer became Labour leader the Conservative Party lead with this pollster was 23-points That lead is now down to 4 Conservative 43% (-4) Labour 39% (+4) Lib Dem 6% (-) Green 3% (-) Opinium (changes since 22 May)
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But now. WTAF!
Westminster voting intention: CON: 45% (+1) LAB: 35% (-3) via
@YouGov
, 29 - 30 May Chgs w/ 26 May
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That surprises me a bit, I thought the Tories would be down instead of up!
Surprisises me too, especially with all that Cummings stuff.
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Surprisises me too, especially with all that Cummings stuff.
Frankly, I’m shocked.
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Westminster Voting Intention: CON: 41% (-2) LAB: 38% (=) LDM: 8% (=) Via
@DeltapollUK
, 4-5 Jun. Changes w/ 27-28 May.
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@Survation
Poll – Westminster Voting Intention: CON 48% (+4) LAB 31% (-2) LD 8% (-3) GRN 5% (+2) SNP 4% (-) PC 1% (-) BXP 1% (-1) OTH 3% (-)
It is a bit like Brexit. The Tories knew how it would go and the people voted for them.
Politics is about what the people want and it is always swings and roundabouts when knowing what to use as information and policy to get the votes from the public.
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@Survation
Poll – UK General Election Voting Intention: CON 42% (+1) LAB 36% (-3) LD 8% (+2) GRN 4% (-) SNP 5% (-) BXP 1% (-) OTH 4% (-)
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Starmer doing incredibly well but Johnson still the best PM for more people.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1271379756991332355.html
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Westminster voting intention: CON: 43% (+2) LAB: 38% (-1) LDEM: 8% (-1) GRN: 4% (-) via
@RedfieldWilton
, 18 Jun Chgs. w/ 11 Jun
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Latest Westminster voting intention (8-9 July) Con - 46% Lab - 36% Lib Dem - 6% SNP - 5% Green - 3% Brexit Party - 2%
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So much for the goodness of humanity.
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I'm no psychologist, but I suspect that in times of anxiety and uncertainty like the present, people want continuity and are wary of change; hence the support for the present government.
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I'm no psychologist, but I suspect that in times of anxiety and uncertainty like the present, people want continuity and are wary of change; hence the support for the present government.
I doubt that applies, in relation to the UK government, here in Scotland though.
It would terrify me if large chunks of the electorate in some parts of the UK actually felt reassured by this bunch of fuckwits, led by a narcissistic liar, who are masquerading as a government.
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I doubt that applies, in relation to the UK government, here in Scotland though.
It would terrify me if large chunks of the electorate in some parts of the UK actually felt reassured by this bunch of fuckwits, led by a narcissistic liar, who are masquerading as a government.
It's not that they feel reassured, it's that at this time they see change is dangerous. I suspect Steve is right but the UK govt has not had the bump the SNP have had in Scotland.
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Slightly different picture in this poll:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jul/11/competent-likeable-decisive-keir-starmer-beating-boris-johnson-on-all-counts
Consevative - 42%
Labour - 38%
Liberal Democrat - 6%
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In Scotland...
Westminster Voting Intention (Scotland): SNP: 54% (+3) CON: 20% (-5) LAB: 16% (+1) LDM: 5% (-1) GRN: 2% (=) BXP: 2% (+2)
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I'm no psychologist, but I suspect that in times of anxiety and uncertainty like the present, people want continuity and are wary of change; hence the support for the present government.
Well, I am a psychologist (but with little expertise in this area) and suspect that you are correct.
I have heard nothing about such a plan, but suspect that there could be activity by organised representatives of university students (NUS or whatever) to ensure that Conservative candidates in a future general election can be appropriately "punished".
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And another ooh er
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/aug/29/how-labour-climbed-26-points-to-match-the-tories-in-opinion-polls
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And another ooh er
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/aug/29/how-labour-climbed-26-points-to-match-the-tories-in-opinion-polls
Ah ha. Not having a useless twat as a leader seems to make a difference.
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Ah ha. Not having a useless twat as a leader seems to make a difference.
and having a lying useless twat of a PM should make more of a difference
https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/02/boris-left-flailing-as-pms-limitations-become-clear-for-all-to-see?CMP=twt_gu&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=&__twitter_impression=true
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and having a lying useless twat of a PM should make more of a difference
https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/02/boris-left-flailing-as-pms-limitations-become-clear-for-all-to-see?CMP=twt_gu&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=&__twitter_impression=true
I had heard that that PMQs was a bit of a catastrophe (for BJ). Unfortunately, it's the first one for a while that I didn't watch. I have to say that I've always found his performances to be all blather and no substance.
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Survation - 2020-09-16 CON: 40% (-4) LAB: 38% (+6) LDEM: 7% (-5) SNP: 5% (+1) GRN: 4% (+1) PC: 1% (+1)
Flavible Projection CON: 292 (-73) LAB: 270 (+67) SNP: 58 (+10) LDEM: 7 (-4) PC: 4 (-) GRN: 1 (-)
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Latest poll:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/26/labour-takes-poll-lead-as-parties-see-major-switch-in-fortunes?
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Ah ha. Not having a useless twat as a leader seems to make a difference.
Kier Starmer benefits from his training and experience as a barrister. He knows how to present verbal argument effectively. Not only that, he benefits from a generally sucessful period as a senior public administrator - Director of Public Prosecutions.
Alexander B Johnson has worked assiduously to develop a public personna by being a buffoon on Have I Got News For You and similar outlets. He also appears to adhere to the Victorian myth that a degree from Oxford in Dead Mediterranean Languages indicates very high intelligence. I suspect (and hope) that his occupancy of a certain terraced house off Whitehall may be very short. However, the current Parliamentary arithmetic suggests that the opportunity for a general election is very slim. Kier Starmer will need to be patient.
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It was an awful speech
https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/06/boris-johnsons-tone-deaf-lies-fall-flat-as-uk-grows-up?__twitter_impression=true
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Like Trump, he only knows he really exists when there are other people kissing his arse.
;D ;D ;D
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Ever get the feeling you've been had
https://www.thenational.scot/news/18791259.dominic-cummings-30k-unpaid-council-tax-bill-written-off/
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Ever get the feeling you've been had
https://www.thenational.scot/news/18791259.dominic-cummings-30k-unpaid-council-tax-bill-written-off/
Ah but the rules don't apply to Cummings and his chums - they only apply to the little people.
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The corruption involved here with Johnson is unsurprising but all the more depressing for it.
https://www.businessinsider.com/tech-entrepreneur-jennifer-arcuri-admits-to-boris-johnson-affair?r=US&IR=T
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Matthew Parris on just some of the ongoing corruption that this govt indulges in
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/smirking-ministers-dont-care-what-we-think-sklkklfjm?shareToken=8be0bac036af8669fd2bd33f237fe565
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LAB: 41% (+4) CON: 37% (-2) LDM: 5% (-1) GRN: 5% (-1) SNP: 5% (=) BXP: 4% (=) Via
@YouGov
, 21-22 Dec. Changes w/ 15-16 Dec
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https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/02/poll-predicts-a-uk-general-election-now-would-wipe-out-tory-majority?CMP=share_btn_tw&__twitter_impression=true
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LAB: 41% (+1) CON: 37% (-2) LDEM: 6% (-) GRN: 4% (-)
via
@OpiniumResearch
, 14 - 15 Jan Chgs. w/ 07 Jan
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Westminster voting intention: CON: 40% (-1) LAB: 38% (+1) LDEM: 8% (-) GRN: 5% (-) REFUK: 2% (-) via
@RedfieldWilton
, 18 Jan Chgs. w/ 11 Jan
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CON: 40% (-2) LAB: 38% (+1) LDEM: 8% (-) GRN: 4% (-) REFUK: 3% (-) via
@RedfieldWilton
, 01 Feb Chgs. w/ 25 Jan
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NEW
@IpsosMORI
/ Evening Standard. Tory lead at 4 points - Greens up to 8(!) Con 42 (+1) Lab 38 (-3) Green 8 (+3) Lib Dems 7 (+1) Other 5 (-2) 1,056 GB adults interviewed by phone 29th Jan - 4th Feb, 2021. Changes from December.
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Westminster Voting Intention: CON: 39% (-1) LAB: 33% (-5) LDM: 9% (+2) GRN: 7% (+2) SNP: 5% (+1) Via
@Survation
, 5-6 Feb Changes w/ 12-13 Jan.
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Brutal for Labour
Westminster voting intention: CON: 45% (+4) LAB: 32% (-4) GRN: 7% (-) LDEM: 6% (+1) REFUK: 3% (-) via
@YouGov
, 03 - 04 Mar Chgs. w/ 26 Feb :)
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Brutal for Labour
Westminster voting intention: CON: 45% (+4) LAB: 32% (-4) GRN: 7% (-) LDEM: 6% (+1) REFUK: 3% (-) via
@YouGov
, 03 - 04 Mar Chgs. w/ 26 Feb :)
Since we are now into year 11 of the most corrupting phase of corrupt and down right lethal Conservative rule, it gives me no pleasure in pointing out the immoral position of increasingly secular Britain.
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Since we are now into year 11 of the most corrupting phase of corrupt and down right lethal Conservative rule, it gives me no pleasure in pointing out the immoral position of increasingly secular Britain.
Except as has been pointed out to you endlessly, the religious amongst us skew to the right.
Still, never let facts get in the way of your secular fixation.
http://www.brin.ac.uk/religious-affiliation-and-party-choice-at-the-2017-general-election/
Scroll down to the little graph and look at the lovely Anglicans support for the Tories. Also note that those who have no religion favour Labour.
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Except as has been pointed out to you endlessly, the religious amongst us skew to the right.
Still, never let facts get in the way of your secular fixation.
No, if the majority are secular then it is incorrect to blame a minority who are religious.
You cannot say that if people vote Conservative even after all they have done and a minority are religious, then it is only the minority who are immoral.
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No, if the majority are secular then it is incorrect to blame a minority who are religious.
You cannot say that if people vote Conservative even after all they have done and a minority are religious, then it is only the minority who are immoral.
No, no and thrice no.
Enough numbers amongst the religious to have swung it for Labour if they were truly caring religious people. Margins were very slim in 2017.
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No, no and thrice no.
Enough numbers amongst the religious to have swung it for Labour if they were truly caring religious people. Margins were very slim in 2017.
That is ridiculous firstly what about 2019. Had you forgotten that?
Secondly, aren't you actually letting a secular Conservative voting majority of the hook? It would be equally ridiculous to say that a minority could have swung it for labour.
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That is ridiculous firstly what about 2019. Had you forgotten that?
Secondly, aren't you actually letting a secular Conservative voting majority of the hook? It would be equally ridiculous to say that a minority could have swung it for labour.
Hardly could forget 2019 could I?
You are the one trying to make a case for secularism being the reason for the ongoing dominance of the Tory party. I really don't think that is the case. For starters Brexit played a huge part in the last election, as in "Let's get Brexit done" etc. Yet again the religious let us down (or not, depending on your pov) but again on the narrow margins in that result they could easily have swayed it to remain:
http://www.brin.ac.uk/how-religious-groups-voted-at-the-2016-referendum-on-britains-eu-membership/
More Anglicans support a right wing view of the world, regardless of the "secular" tories. So I do not see that an increase in religious fervour generally is going to lead to anything but more of the same.
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Hardly could forget 2019 could I?
You are the one trying to make a case for secularism being the reason for the ongoing dominance of the Tory party. I really don't think that is the case. For starters Brexit played a huge part in the last election, as in "Let's get Brexit done" etc. Yet again the religious let us down (or not, depending on your pov) but again on the narrow margins in that result they could easily have swayed it to remain:
http://www.brin.ac.uk/how-religious-groups-voted-at-the-2016-referendum-on-britains-eu-membership/
More Anglicans support a right wing view of the world, regardless of the "secular" tories. So I do not see that an increase in religious fervour generally is going to lead to anything but more of the same.
Yes, but there are less and less anglicans. There is a decrease in religious fervour.
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Yes, but there are less and less anglicans. There is a decrease in religious fervour.
But if there were more Anglicans there would be more people inclined to vote Tory.
We are stuck in one of those impossible loops so beloved of Sci-fi.
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But if there were more Anglicans there would be more people inclined to vote Tory.
We are stuck in one of those impossible loops so beloved of Sci-fi.
But there are less anglicans but more people are going Tory and going back to tory!
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But there are less anglicans but more people are going Tory and going back to tory!
Indeed, but to suggest this is a result of secularism without any evidence is no way to carry on. Maybe they are going back to the Tories because they think (despite all evidence to the contrary) that the Tories are the most competent to run the country.
I don't see that secularism has a part to play, if truth be told I'm not convinced religion does either. People do not vote with abstract concepts on their minds.
They vote for the issues that affect them, that they care about. Unfortunately, at the last election a disproportionate number felt very strongly about getting the process of leaving the EU completed.
That's what won it more than anything.
A lacklustre, mistrusted (unwarranted mistrust, admittedly) leader of Labour did not help.
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Indeed, but to suggest this is a result of secularism without any evidence is no way to carry on. Maybe they are going back to the Tories because they think (despite all evidence to the contrary) that the Tories are the most competent to run the country.
I don't see that secularism has a part to play, if truth be told I'm not convinced religion does either. People do not vote with abstract concepts on their minds.
They vote for the issues that affect them, that they care about. Unfortunately, at the last election a disproportionate number felt very strongly about getting the process of leaving the EU completed.
That's what won it more than anything.
A lacklustre, mistrusted (unwarranted mistrust, admittedly) leader of Labour did not help.
With all respect it should be easy to find out the reasons people vote Tory by asking them. But what do we come up against, a mist of secrecy and reluctance to self examine concerning intent which, in the 2015 election looked as if it was a veil of lies regarding how many people were actually for Miliband and labour.
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With all respect it should be easy to find out the reasons people vote Tory by asking them. But what do we come up against, a mist of secrecy and reluctance to self examine concerning intent which, in the 2015 election looked as if it was a veil of lies regarding how many people were actually for Miliband and labour.
Sorry don't get what you are saying here.
People have been asked, just Google it, but here's one article:
https://www.theweek.co.uk/107341/how-conservative-party-became-party-of-poor
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Sorry don't get what you are saying here.
People have been asked, just Google it, but here's one article:
https://www.theweek.co.uk/107341/how-conservative-party-became-party-of-poor
Doesn't seem to cover the underlying love for Tories or hatred of Labour which was apparent under Brown and Cameron and long before Corbyn. My thesis is that the Tories appeal to that which is evil in people rather than that which is thick.
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Doesn't seem to cover the underlying love for Tories or hatred of Labour which was apparent under Brown and Cameron and long before Corbyn. My thesis is that the Tories appeal to that which is evil in people rather than that which is thick.
I can't go along with that. I don't see Tories as inherently evil, or even giving in to the evil within them. I know far too many good people who happen to vote Tory to think that is possible.
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I can't go along with that. I don't see Tories as inherently evil, or even giving in to the evil within them. I know far too many good people who happen to vote Tory to think that is possible.
I don't ascribe to the Good bloke hypothesis. I can hardly believe we are letting people who happen to be tory politicians get away with the immorality. And yet many, many people seem to think cruelty and callousness gives one a certain cachet and appeal. If it is poor and working class people responsible as you seem to be saying with your reference unfortunately the appeal could be the more likely prospect of a levelling down rather than a levelling up. A preservation of desperation culture rather than it's stamping out.
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I don't ascribe to the Good bloke hypothesis. I can hardly believe we are letting people who happen to be tory politicians get away with the immorality. And yet many, many people seem to think cruelty and callousness gives one a certain cachet and appeal. If it is poor and working class people responsible as you seem to be saying with your reference unfortunately the appeal could be the more likely prospect of a levelling down rather than a levelling up. A preservation of desperation culture rather than it's stamping out.
Whoa there Neddy. I wasn't talking about letting Tory politicians off, just that I don't subscribe to the view that just because people vote Tory that they are the wicked Witches of the West.
There is undoubtedly a strand of the population that likes cruelty and callousness. You need look no further than the debate around Shamima Begum for confirmation of this.
Levelling up was always a scam. See Rishi Sunak's plans for Richmond as proof.
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Whoa there Neddy. I wasn't talking about letting Tory politicians off, just that I don't subscribe to the view that just because people vote Tory that they are the wicked Witches of the West.
No they weren't but now there have been 120,000 deaths, (the NHS saved and witnessed a lot of terrible passings) we are pretty sure how many they came about...
And yet people still want the Tories. Tory voters have therefore as far as I am concerned have crossed a Rubicon.
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Johnson doing some heavy duty dicking around with minds.
This from the Guardian.
Return to schools could alter Covid roadmap, Boris Johnson warns
PM says reopening will have an impact on coronavirus spread and people must ‘stay at home’
Coronavirus – latest updates
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Boris Johnson warns of ‘big budget of risk’ in reopening schools during pandemic – video
Jessica Elgot, Sally Weale and Aubrey Allegretti
Mon 8 Mar 2021 18.33 GMT
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The reopening of schools will have an impact on infection rates that could affect the roadmap for lifting restrictions, Boris Johnson has warned as England’s deputy chief medical adviser said it was too soon to rule out a fourth wave taking off.
The comments sparked alarm from a number of Tory MPs, who insisted the government should remain open to an earlier lifting of lockdown measures.
Speaking after millions of pupils returned to schools across England on Monday, the prime minister said the number of people being admitted to hospital with Covid-19 each day was eight times higher than “the lows of last summer”, and reiterated that people must still follow the “stay at home” message.
“Of course, there will be a risk of increased transmission, that’s inevitable if you open up schools for millions of kids across the country. That is going to happen,” he told a Downing Street press conference.
People who have willingly let their moral compasses be twisted by Johnson '' By George he's right you know!!!
Others '' Then why did you order it you fat cunt? Covid knows nothing of playing the game you Eton fuckwit''
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Westminster voting intention: CON: 42% (-1) LAB: 36% (-) LDEM: 8% (+1) GRN: 4% (+1) via
@SavantaComRes
, 05 - 07 Mar Chgs. w/ 28 Feb
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WM polling for Scotland
New Scottish Westminster poll, BMG 16 - 19 Mar (changes vs 2019 Election): SNP ~ 47% (+2) Con ~ 21% (-4) Lab ~ 19% (nc) LD ~ 7% (-3) Grn ~ 3% (+2) RUK ~ 1% (nc)
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More WM polling for Scotland
New Scottish Westminster poll, Survation 11 - 18 Mar (changes vs 9 - 12 Mar); SNP ~ 49% (+3) Lab ~ 21% (-2) Con ~ 21% (-1) LD ~ 7% (nc) Grn ~ 1% (+1)
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Westminster voting intention: CON: 43% (+1) LAB: 34% (+1) GRN: 7% (+1) LDEM: 5% (-2) REFUK: 3% (-) via
@YouGov
, 18 - 19 Mar
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Ah yes, these poll stats for Labour are Anneliese Dodds fault
https://www.joe.co.uk/amp/news/keir-starmer-set-to-sack-shadow-chancellor-after-labour-poll-slump-268276?__twitter_impression=true
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Youguv latest Westminster voting intention (13-14 April) Con 43% (+2 from 7-8 April) Lab 29% (-5) Lib Dem 8% (+2) Green 8% (+2) Reform UK 3% (n/c) SNP 5% (n/c)
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Youguv latest Westminster voting intention (13-14 April) Con 43% (+2 from 7-8 April) Lab 29% (-5) Lib Dem 8% (+2) Green 8% (+2) Reform UK 3% (n/c) SNP 5% (n/c)
Voters support for the tories shows a dreadful moral collapse in this country. Our only hope is that the voters are still the huge political liars they were when they lied about their support for Miliband, but I doubt it.
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Voters support for the tories shows a dreadful moral collapse in this country. Our only hope is that the voters are still the huge political liars they were when they lied about their support for Miliband, but I doubt it.
Today's edition of "Talking Bollocks".
So whenever the Tories are in the lead there's a moral collapse?
Or is it just at this particular moment in history?
And are you still ignoring the fact that as pointed out many times before, there's still more agin em than for em.
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Today's edition of "Talking Bollocks".
So whenever the Tories are in the lead there's a moral collapse?
Or is it just at this particular moment in history?
And are you still ignoring the fact that as pointed out many times before, there's still more agin em than for em.
But alas in insufficient amounts.
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Westminster voting intention:
CON: 44% (+1)
LAB: 34% (-2)
LDEM: 10% (+3)
GRN: 4% (-1)
REFUK: 3% (-)
via @RedfieldWilton, 19 Apr
Chgs. w/ 12 Apr
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Yes, but there are less and less anglicans. There is a decrease in religious fervour.
"Fewer and fewer".
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"Fewer and fewer".
Not as many as there were before, anyway.
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Westminster voting intention:
CON: 44% (-1)
LAB: 33% (-3)
LDEM: 7% (+1)
GRN: 5% (+1)
via @OpiniumResearch, 21 - 23 Apr
Chgs. w/ 09 Apr
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Westminster voting intention:
CON: 40% (-5)
LAB: 37% (-1)
LDEM: 8% (+2)
GRN: 5% (-)
via @IpsosMORI, 16 - 22 Apr
Chgs. w/ Mar
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Westminster voting intention:
CON: 40% (-5)
LAB: 37% (-1)
LDEM: 8% (+2)
GRN: 5% (-)
via @IpsosMORI, 16 - 22 Apr
Chgs. w/ Mar
Can only hope it is the start of a larger shift.........
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Can only hope it is the start of a larger shift.........
And that was before most of the latest piece of corruption to seep out.
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Westminster voting intention:
CON: 42% (-1)
LAB: 35% (+1)
LDEM: 8% (+1)
GRN: 3% (-2)
via @SavantaComRes, 23 - 25 Apr
Chgs. w/ 18 Apr
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Westminster voting intention:
CON: 44% (-)
LAB: 33% (-1)
GRN: 7% (-)
LDEM: 7% (+2)
REFUK: 3% (+1)
via @YouGov, 27 - 28 Apr
Chgs. w/ 22 Apr
Ffs!
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Westminster voting intention:
CON: 44% (-)
LAB: 33% (-1)
GRN: 7% (-)
LDEM: 7% (+2)
REFUK: 3% (+1)
via @YouGov, 27 - 28 Apr
Chgs. w/ 22 Apr
Ffs!
we know what part of the uk this immorality is centred on. You have full moral warrant for independence This confirms you were right all along.
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Westminster voting intention:
CON: 44% (-)
LAB: 33% (-1)
GRN: 7% (-)
LDEM: 7% (+2)
REFUK: 3% (+1)
via @YouGov, 27 - 28 Apr
Chgs. w/ 22 Apr
Ffs!
Anyone else had their faith in human nature dented by this?
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Anyone else had their faith in human nature dented by this?
Dented doesn't begin to cover it.
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Some move here
Westminster voting intention:
CON: 39% (-4)
LAB: 38% (+3)
LDEM: 9% (+1)
GRN: 6% (+2)
via @Survation, 27 - 29 Apr
Chgs. w/ 10 Apr
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And another move
New poll by Opinium for the Observer shows the Tory lead over Labour has halved since last week.
Conservatives: 42% (-2)
Labour: 37% (+4%)
Leader approval ratings:
Boris Johnson: -6 (-5)
Keir Starmer +8 (+7)
Fieldwork: 28-30 April.
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And another ooh er
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/aug/29/how-labour-climbed-26-points-to-match-the-tories-in-opinion-polls
I cannot see how the figures can be held to be accurate if they are gathered from different people each time, nor can they be accurate if they are from the same people each time and, of course, how many people were asked for an opinion would also affect the accuracy of the figures.
At least that is the way that I see it.
Owslwing
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I cannot see how the figures can be held to be accurate if they are gathered from different people each time, nor can they be accurate if they are from the same people each time and, of course, how many people were asked for an opinion would also affect the accuracy of the figures.
At least that is the way that I see it.
Owslwing
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https://eagletonpoll.rutgers.edu/how-polling-works/
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https://eagletonpoll.rutgers.edu/how-polling-works/
In which case this gives strength to my supposition that the poll is of little value, being 800 to 1200 people at random!
800 to 1200 are going to tell you what several MILLION are going to do and a different 800 to 1200 each day are going to give accurate results?
Not to me they won't!
Owlswing
)O(
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In which case this gives strength to my supposition that the poll is of little value, being 800 to 1200 people at random!
800 to 1200 are going to tell you what several MILLION are going to do and a different 800 to 1200 each day are going to give accurate results?
Not to me they won't!
Owlswing
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And yet it does. You are just indulging in the incredulity fallacy.
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And yet it does. You are just indulging in the incredulity fallacy.
Only because you want it to.
And I wouldn't know an incredulity fallacy if it ran up behind me and bit me on the arse!
This kind of publicity seems to me to be an attempt to get people to think "Oh Fuck! Look at these figures! It's not worth us voting, we're going to lose anyway!" and thus get the Lefty's in! and thus engineer a lefty win and go back to mob rule by the Unions that we've seen before.
This thread is neither "Religion" nor "Ethics", it is Politics and to me all, and I mean ALL, politicians are as corrupt as Al Capone so whoever we vote in eventually we all get fucked!
End of conversation!
Owlswing
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Oh yes the lefty unions what have they ever done for us?
It was unions which fought for and won a minimum wage, maternity and paternity rights, pension provision, holiday and sickness entitlements. These union victories have benefited every single British person.
Just take your rabid, uninformed prejudices and look at the Tories voting record on any, ANY of these issues.
And if you think all politicians are as corrupt as Johnson you are the one that is falling into the "they're all the same trap".
To be sure if you argue for the status quo we are going to get fucked by Bullingdon Boris.
Your argument is as bad and inane and stupid as those of people who argue that all soldiers are bad on the basis of one or two examples.
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This kind of publicity seems to me to be an attempt to get people to think "Oh Fuck! Look at these figures! It's not worth us voting, we're going to lose anyway!" and thus get the Lefty's in! and thus engineer a lefty win and go back to mob rule by the Unions that we've seen before.
Eh - but the Tories are leading in the polls so your argument of "Oh Fuck! Look at these figures! It's not worth us voting, we're going to lose anyway!" would most obviously apply to Labour voters, hence supporting a Tory victory. You are talking non-sense I'm afraid.
In a broader sense there is an argument that the publishing of polling influences voting patterns which is why some countries ban publishing of polls in the immediate run up to an election.
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It's true! Politics has broken more friendships than religion!
Except on this one subject I have had many, many friends on this Forum and will remember you all with great fondness, but a disagreement on politics tends to colour every other subject, an itch on the back of the neck that you just can't scratch hard enough to stop the bloody thing itching and sending you frigging nuts!
Going back over my history with this Forum and previously on the Beeb boards, I have enjoyed your company and your comments, your humour, and in some cases your lack of it.
Farewell! And I really mean that, I truly hope you all fare well, even including the most irritating voice on the forum! Recognise yourself, Vlad?
Owlswing
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Bright Blessings, Love and Light, and may the old Ones watch over you and yours always!
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Westminster voting intention:
CON: 40% (-4)
LAB: 38% (+4)
LDEM: 7% (-1)
GRN: 5% (+1)
REFUK: 3% (-)
via @RedfieldWilton, 03 May
Chgs. w/ 26 Apr
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Labour's triumph in London, built on traditional industries
https://thecritic.co.uk/the-woodfired-brick-wall/
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Westminster voting intention:
CON: 45% (+2)
LAB: 30% (-3)
GRN: 8% (+2)
LDEM: 7% (-)
REFUK: 2% (-1)
via @YouGov
Chgs. w/ 05 May
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Voting intention poll:
CON: 43% (-2)
LAB: 30% (-3)
LD: 11% (-1)
GRN: 9% (+6)
REF: 2% (-)
seat estimate
CON: 386 (+21)
LAB: 172 (-31)
SNP: 58 (+10)
LD: 9 (-2)
GRN: 2 (+1)
OTH: 23 (+1)
Tory majority of 122 seats.
Via @FindoutnowUK / @ElectCalculus (+/- since 2019)
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Westminster voting intention:
CON: 42% (-3)
LAB: 33% (-1)
LDEM: 10% (+2)
GRN: 6% (+1)
via @RedfieldWilton, 17 May
Chgs. w/ 10 May
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Farewell! And I really mean that, I truly hope you all fare well, even including the most irritating voice on the forum! Recognise yourself, Vlad?
Owlswing
Thanks for that, take care of yourself and haste ye back, ya hear.
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Westminster voting intention:
CON: 46% (+1)
LAB: 28% (-2)
LDEM: 8% (+1)
GRN: 8% (-)
REFUK: 2% (-)
via @YouGov, 19 - 20 May
Chgs. w/ 12 May
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What's Labour for? It's a secret.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-starmer-policies-confidential-jonathan-ashworth-b1849996.html
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Westminster voting intention:
CON: 43% (+1)
LAB: 33% (-)
LDEM: 10% (-)
GRN: 5% (-1)
via @RedfieldWilton, 24 May
Chgs. w/ 17 May
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Westminster voting intention:
CON: 46% (+3)
LAB: 30% (+1)
GRN: 9% (+1)
LDEM: 6% (-2)
REFUK: 2% (-1)
via @YouGov, 02 - 03 Jun
Chgs. w/ 28 May
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Westminster voting intention:
CON: 46% (+3)
LAB: 30% (+1)
GRN: 9% (+1)
LDEM: 6% (-2)
REFUK: 2% (-1)
via @YouGov, 02 - 03 Jun
Chgs. w/ 28 May
My old Dad was right. If you offer them sugar they would want shite.
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As ever you go down the route of insulting voters. Do you think this will help?
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Westminster voting intention:
CON: 44% (+3)
LAB: 30% (-4)
LDEM: 10% (+2)
GRN: 5% (-1)
via @SavantaComRes, 18 - 20 Jun
Chgs. w/ 13 Jun
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Westminster voting intention:
CON: 42% (-)
LAB: 31% (+1)
LDEM: 10% (+1)
GRN: 6% (-1)
via @YouGov
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Westminster voting intention:
CON: 42% (-)
LAB: 31% (+1)
LDEM: 10% (+1)
GRN: 6% (-1)
via @YouGov
Nearly Sane in view of your criticism regarding insulting voters I am minded to make daisy chain garlands for my Conservative neighbours in order to celebrate their continuing fortune in the polls and successful enabling of the Johnson government
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Feck
Westminster voting intention:
CON: 43% (+2)
LAB: 34% (-)
LDEM: 8% (-1)
GRN: 6% (+1)
via @RedfieldWilton, 05 Jul
Chgs. w/ 28 Jun
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The only reasons for voting Tory are selfishness and stupidity. There are a lot of selfish, stupid, or both people, apparently.
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Westminster voting intention:
CON: 44% (+2)
LAB: 31% (+1)
LDEM: 8% (-1)
GRN: 6% (-1)
REFUK: 3% (+1)
via @YouGov, 15 - 16 Jul
Chgs. w/ 08 Jul
https://t.co/e0SMo15aUd
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Hmmm.
CON: 39% (-4)
LAB: 35% (+3)
LD: 11% (+2)
Via @survation, 19-20 July '21. Changes w/ 5-13 July '21.
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And another hmmm.....
Latest Westminster voting intention (20-21 Jul)
Con 38% (-6 since 15-16 Jul)
Lab 34% (+3)
Lib Dem 9% (+1)
Greens 8% (+2)
SNP 5% (+1)
Reform UK 3% (n/c)
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NEW – Westminster Voting Intention:
CON 39% (-)
LAB 37% (+1)
LD 10% (-)
GRN 5% (-)
SNP 4% (-)
OTH 5% (-1)
1,013 respondents, fieldwork 23 July ‘21. Changes w/ 19-20 July '21.
https://t.co/eqDbdAYqjk https://t.co/w9uRhBYPzU
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Looks like the pandemic effect might be waning.
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Westminster Voting Intention:
CON: 37% (-7)
LAB: 34% (+3)
LDM: 14% (+2)
GRN: 5% (+1)
SNP: 4% (-2)
REF: 2% (+1)
Via @Kantar_UKI, 19-23 August,
Changes w/ 12 July.
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Latest Poll (YouGov 8/9 Sep):
Con: 33% (-5 from 2-3 Sep)
Lab: 35% (+1)
Lib Dem: 10% (+2)
Green: 9% (-1)
SNP: 5% (n/c)
Reform UK: 5% (+2)
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Ffs!
Westminster voting intention:
CON: 40% (-)
LAB: 35% (-1)
LDEM: 8% (-1)
GRN: 4% (-1)
via @Survation, 20 - 21 Sep
Chgs. w/ 14 Sep
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Westminster voting intention:
CON: 41% (+2)
LAB: 31% (-)
LDEM: 9% (-)
GRN: 8% (-1)
REFUK: 4%: (-)
via @YouGov, 12 - 13 Oct
Chgs. w/ 06 Oct
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Westminster voting intention:
CON: 41% (+2)
LAB: 31% (-)
LDEM: 9% (-)
GRN: 8% (-1)
REFUK: 4%: (-)
via @YouGov, 12 - 13 Oct
Chgs. w/ 06 Oct
I do wish you'd stop posting these. I find them most depressing.
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I do wish you'd stop posting these. I find them most depressing.
Sometimes I think the tories are going to get the same nasty shock as Miliband got when the polls had him level with Cameron.......but then this is England where they hate socialism and love getting porked by a posh boy.
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Yougov poll (3-4 Nov)
Conservatives 36% (-3)
Labour 35% (+2)
Liberal Democrats 8% (n/c)
Greens 9% (-1)
Reform UK 5% (+2)
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 36% (-)
CON: 35% (-4)
GRN: 11% (+5)
LDEM: 9% (-)
via @IpsosMORI, 29 Oct - 04 Nov
Chgs. w/ Sep
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 38% (+2)
CON: 36% (-1)
LDEM: 10% (-)
GRN: 6% (-)
via @RedfieldWilton, 10 Nov
Chgs. w/ 08 Nov
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 40% (+5)
CON: 34% (-4)
LDEM: 10% (-)
GRN: 5% (+1)
via @SavantaComRes, 11 - 12 Nov
Chgs. w/ 07 Nov
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Ffs!
Westminster voting intention:
CON: 39% (-)
LAB: 36% (+2)
LDEM: 10% (+2)
GRN: 5% (-3)
via @Kantar, 18 - 22 Nov
Chgs. w/ Oct
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POLL: Westminster Voting Intention
LAB: 39% (-1)
CON: 32% (-2)
LD: 9% (-1)
SNP: 5% (+1)
GRN: 5% (+1)
RFM: 4% (+1)
Via @Survation, 10-11 Dec
Changes w/ 9 Dec
🚨 New MRP poll (in Scotland)
🟡 SNP 53% (+8)
🔵 Con 19% (-6)
🔴 Lab 16% (-3)
🟠 LD 5% (-5)
🟢 Grn 4% (+3)
[Seats]
🟡 SNP 59 (+1)
🔵 Con 0 (-6)
🔴 Lab 0 (-1)
🟠 LD 0 (-4)
[Indy v Union %]
🏴 57%
🇬🇧 43%
Via @FindoutnowUK / @ElectCalculus, 29 Nov-1 Dec (+/- since 5-8 Nov) https://t.co/tE6eQ0zy41
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Bojo nearly done then.
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Bojo nearly done then.
Toasted
North Shropshire, parliamentary by-election result:
LDEM: 47.2% (+37.2)
CON: 31.6% (-31.1)
LAB: 9.7% (-12.4)
GRN: 4.6% (+1.4)
REFUK: 3.8% (+3.8)
LDem GAIN from Con.
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Toasted
North Shropshire, parliamentary by-election result:
LDEM: 47.2% (+37.2)
CON: 31.6% (-31.1)
LAB: 9.7% (-12.4)
GRN: 4.6% (+1.4)
REFUK: 3.8% (+3.8)
LDem GAIN from Con.
Not a small swing then. What are the odds of BoJo still being prime minister at the start of the next general election?
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Toasted
North Shropshire, parliamentary by-election result:
LDEM: 47.2% (+37.2)
CON: 31.6% (-31.1)
LAB: 9.7% (-12.4)
GRN: 4.6% (+1.4)
REFUK: 3.8% (+3.8)
LDem GAIN from Con.
Couldn't wish for a better present for Johnson the liar.
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Couldn't wish for a better present for Johnson the liar.
👍👍👍
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Alex Massie on the by-election
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-joy-of-boris-s-bungled-by-election
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First letter to 1922 Committee
https://t.co/AIXAOFeyEV
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Even Ryanair are trolling Johnson now:
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 38% (+1)
CON: 28% (-5)
LDEM: 13% (+3)
GRN: 7% (+1)
REFUK: 4% (-1)
via @YouGov
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB 41% (+3)
CON: 27% (-3)
LDEM: 11% (+1)
GRN: 8% (-2)
REFUK: 5% (-2)
via @FindoutnowUK, 13 Jan
Chgs. w/ 15 Dec
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 43% (+4)
CON: 30% (-5)
LDEM: 9% (-3)
GRN: 7% (+2)
REFUK: 4% (-)
via @RedfieldWilton, 17 Jan
Chgs. w/ 10 Jan
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Westminster Voting Intention (27 Mar):
Labour 37% (-3)
Conservative 35% (–)
Liberal Democrat 9% (-2)
Green 5% (-2)
Scottish National Party 6% (+2)
Reform UK 5% (+3)
Other 3% (+2)
Changes +/- 20 Mar.
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 45% (+2)
CON: 31% (-4)
LDEM: 11% (-)
GRN: 3% (+1)
via @Survation
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 45% (+2)
CON: 31% (-4)
LDEM: 11% (-)
GRN: 3% (+1)
via @Survation
I want to see BJ hold that snap election.
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I want to see BJ hold that snap election.
If only he would be that petulant.
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🚨New Westminster Voting Intention🚨
📈15pt Labour lead, first @SavantaComRes poll since the PM resigned
🌳Con 28 (-4)
🌹Lab 43 (+2)
🔶LD 12 (+1)
🎗️SNP 4 (=)
🌍Gre 4 (+1)
⬜️Other 8 (-2)
2,168 UK adults, 8-10 Jul
(chg from 1-3 Jul)
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This is very interesting
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https://archive.ph/flbZq
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https://archive.ph/flbZq
Someone has popped those numbers into a seat predictor model and the tories end up with ... 2 seats. Yup that's right, just 2 seats compared to Labour's 571!!!
https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/1575529929973805056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1575529929973805056%7Ctwgr%5Eab06f608770469f9d38c605ac8eac225a09ecbc2%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww2.politicalbetting.com%2Findex.php%2Farchives%2F2022%2F09%2F29%2Ftruss-isnt-working%2F
The tories would become, I suspect the 6th largest party after Labour, SNP, LD and some assorted NI parties.
SNP - official opposition.
Shame there is no way of getting a general election now.
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Someone has popped those numbers into a seat predictor model and the tories end up with ... 2 seats. Yup that's right, just 2 seats compared to Labour's 571!!!
https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/1575529929973805056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1575529929973805056%7Ctwgr%5Eab06f608770469f9d38c605ac8eac225a09ecbc2%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww2.politicalbetting.com%2Findex.php%2Farchives%2F2022%2F09%2F29%2Ftruss-isnt-working%2F
The tories would become, I suspect the 6th largest party after Labour, SNP, LD and some assorted NI parties.
SNP - official opposition.
Shame there is no way of getting a general election now.
and a shame that the Labour party won't have PR in their manifesto because those figures show why FPTP is a nonsense.
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Someone has popped those numbers into a seat predictor model and the tories end up with ... 2 seats. Yup that's right, just 2 seats compared to Labour's 571!!!
https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/1575529929973805056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1575529929973805056%7Ctwgr%5Eab06f608770469f9d38c605ac8eac225a09ecbc2%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww2.politicalbetting.com%2Findex.php%2Farchives%2F2022%2F09%2F29%2Ftruss-isnt-working%2F
The tories would become, I suspect the 6th largest party after Labour, SNP, LD and some assorted NI parties.
SNP - official opposition.
Shame there is no way of getting a general election now.
Please can you delete everything in the link from the first question mark. It's al unnecessary crap that is only designed to track you across web sites. This is all you need:
https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/1575529929973805056
While I'm posting links to Tweets. This was in the replies:
https://twitter.com/Rob_Merrick/status/1575144324769120261
Liz Truss has spoken today to Ukraine's president about the ongoing crisis
Zelensky promised to provide all the assistance he could
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Westminster Voting Intention:
LAB: 50% (+10)
CON: 20% (-8)
LDM: 9% (-1)
GRN: 8% (=)
SNP: 5% (-1)
Via @PeoplePolling, 29 Sep.
Changes w/ 21 Sep.
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This is the first time I've ever agreed wih mad bad nads
https://www.independent.co.uk/independentpremium/uk-news/nadine-dorries-general-election-truss-conservative-b2195336.html (https://www.independent.co.uk/independentpremium/uk-news/nadine-dorries-general-election-truss-conservative-b2195336.html)
Nadine Dorries calls on Liz Truss to hold a general election
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Westminster Voting Intention:
LAB: 48% (+1)
CON: 24% (+2)
LDM: 9% (=)
RFM: 8% (-1)
GRN: 6% (+1)
SNP: 4% (=)
Via @YouGov, 6-7 Dec.
Changes w/ 29-30 Nov.
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Westminster Voting Intention:
LAB: 48% (+1)
CON: 24% (+2)
LDM: 9% (=)
RFM: 8% (-1)
GRN: 6% (+1)
SNP: 4% (=)
Via @YouGov, 6-7 Dec.
Changes w/ 29-30 Nov.
A little bit sad that the GE didn't happen while Labour had a majority of the voters. Never mind, I think they still win a large majority on this e figures.
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Westminster Voting Intention:
LAB: 50% (+5)
CON: 21% (=)
LDM: 8% (-1)
REF: 7% (-1)
GRN: 5% (-4)
Via @PeoplePolling, On 24 January.
Changes w/ 18 January.
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From People Polling who are showing a surge in Green support which is not happening in other polls.
NEW: Westminster Voting Intention poll (17 Mar):
🔴 LAB: 45% (+3 from 8 Mar)
🔵 CON: 20% (-3)
🟢 GRN: 13% (+3)
🟠 LDM: 9% (+1)
🟣 RFM: 6% (-1)
🟡 SNP: 5% (+1)
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LAB: 45% (-5)
CON: 35% (+8)
LDEM: 7% (-2)
via @DeltapollUK
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 47% (-1)
CON: 26% (-1)
LDEM: 11% (-)
GRN: 6% (+1)
REF: 5% (-1)
via @RedfieldWilton, 19 Mar
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NEW POLL - Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 46%
CON: 29%
LIB: 8%
REFORM: 6%
SNP: 4%
GREEN: 4%
PLAID: 1%
OTHER: 2%
via @BMGResearch, 15-16 Mar
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 49% (+3)
CON: 23% (-4)
LDEM: 10% (-1)
GRN: 6% (-)
REF: 6% (-)
via @YouGov, this week
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Polls seem a bit all over the place in terms of tory share at the moment - with recent polls showing as high as 35% and as low as 20%!
Labour vote share seems much more stable in the mid to high 40s.
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 43% (-2)
CON: 22% (+2)
LDEM: 10% (+1)
REF: 9% (+3)
GRN: 8% (-5)
via @PeoplePolling, 22 Mar
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Westminster voting intention
LAB: 45% (-)
CON: 30% (-5)
LDEM: 10% (+3)
via @DeltapollUK, 24 - 27 Mar
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Westminster voting intention
LAB: 45% (-)
CON: 30% (-5)
LDEM: 10% (+3)
via @DeltapollUK, 24 - 27 Mar
I think the previous Deltapoll poll was a massive outlier, with Tories on 35%. So this is really reversion to the norm.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/mar/30/britons-more-confidence-in-eu-than-westminster-poll-brexit (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/mar/30/britons-more-confidence-in-eu-than-westminster-poll-brexit)
Since the UK voted for Brexit, the proportion of people declaring confidence in parliament has slumped by 10 percentage points to 22%
Hopefully that will be a kick in the ballots.
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 46% (-)
CON: 30% (-1)
LDEM: 9% (+1)
REF: 5% (-)
GRN: 4% (-)
via @techneUK, 29 - 30 Mar
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 50% (+6)
CON: 27% (-2)
LDEM: 9% (-1)
REF: 6% (-)
GRN: 4% (-1)
via @Omnisis, 28 - 29 Mar
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 48% (+3)
CON: 27% (-3)
LDEM: 9% (-1)
REF: 5% (+1)
GRN: 4% (-)
via @DeltapollUK, 31 Mar - 03 Apr
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 41% (-3)
CON: 30% (+1)
LDEM: 10% (+1)
REF: 7% (-)
GRN: 5% (-)
via @OpiniumResearch, 05 - 06 Apr
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 44% (-1)
CON: 30% (+2)
LDEM: 10% (-2)
REF: 6% (+1)
GRN: 5% (+1)
via @RedfieldWilton, 09 Apr
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 45% (-)
CON: 30% (-)
LDEM: 10% (+1)
REF: 6% (+1)
GRN: 4% (-1)
via @techneUK, 12 - 13 Apr
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 48% (+2)
CON: 25% (-1)
LDEM: 9% (-1)
REF: 7% (-)
GRN: 5% (-)
via @Omnisis, 12 - 13 Apr
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 44% (-)
CON: 32% (+2)
LDEM: 10% (-)
GRN: 4% (-1)
REF: 4% (-2)
via @RedfieldWilton
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Westminster Voting Intention:
LAB: 48% (+3)
CON: 27% (-1)
LDM: 7% (-3)
REF: 6% (=)
GRN: 6% (=)
via @Omnisis, 4-5 May
(Changes with 28 Apr)
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Westminster VI (7 May):
Labour 41% (-4)
Conservative 29% (+1)
Liberal Democrat 16% (+4)
Reform UK 5% (-2)
Green 4% (–)
SNP 3% (+1)
Other 1% (–)
Changes +/- 30 April
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 43% (-1)
CON: 29% (+3)
LDEM: 11% (+1)
GRN: 5% (-2)
REF: 6% (-1)
via @OpiniumResearch, 10 - 12 May
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 43% (-)
CON: 25% (+1)
LDEM: 12% (+1)
GRN: 8% (-)
REF: 6% (-1)
via @YouGov, 17 - 18 May
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 44% (-5)
CON: 28% (+2)
LDEM: 13% (+2)
GRN: 6% (-)
via @IpsosUK, 10 - 15 May
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 42% (-3)
CON: 29% (+1)
LDEM: 11% (+2)
GRN: 5% (-2)
REF: 5% (-)
via @Kantar_UKI, 18 - 22 May
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 43% (-)
CON: 28% (-1)
LDEM: 9% (-2)
GRN: 7% (+2)
REF: 6% (-)
via @OpiniumResearch, 23 - 26 May
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 43% (+1)
CON: 28% (-2)
LDEM: 12% (-1)
GRN: 7% (+3)
REF: 5% (-)
via @RedfieldWilton, 28 May
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LAB: 46% (-1)
CON: 25% (-3)
LDEM: 10% (-)
GRN: 7% (+2)
REF: 6% (-)
via @Omnisis, 01 - 02 Jun
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 44 (+1)
CON: 30% (+2)
LDEM: 12% (-)
GRN: 5% (-2)
REF: 5% (-)
via @RedfieldWilton, 04 Jun
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 43% (-4)
CON: 29% (-1)
LDEM: 13% (+4)
via @DeltapollUK, 02 - 05 Jun
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Westminster Voting Intention
📈17pt Labour lead
🌹Lab 45 (+1)
🌳Con 28 (-2)
🔶LD 9 (-2)
➡️Reform 6 (+1)
🎗️SNP 4 (+1)
🌍Gre 4 (+1)
⬜️Other 4 (+1)
2,030 UK adults, 9-11 June
(chg from 2-4 June) Savanta
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Apparently despite the polling, there are rumours that if the by elections go ok for the Tories, that Sunak might go for an October 23 election as the worry is that with further interest rate increases likely that the mortgage increases will just make everything worse for the Tories.
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Apparently despite the polling, there are rumours that if the by elections go ok for the Tories, that Sunak might go for an October 23 election as the worry is that with further interest rate increases likely that the mortgage increases will just make everything worse for the Tories.
I am torn. I really want them out of office at the soonest opportunity, but I don't want even the slightest chance of a Tory win. What do the above figures predict for the composition of the next Parliament?
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I am torn. I really want them out of office at the soonest opportunity, but I don't want even the slightest chance of a Tory win. What do the above figures predict for the composition of the next Parliament?
Never mind. I found this site
https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/prediction_main.html
I say bring it on Rishi.
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 44% (+2)
CON: 28% (-1)
LDEM: 11% (-1)
REF: 6% (+1)
GRN: 5% (-1)
via @techneUK, 14 - 15 Jun
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 48% (+1)
CON: 26% (-1)
LDEM: 10% (-)
GRN: 6% (+1)
REF: 5% (-1)
via @Omnisis, 15 - 16 Jun
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 46% (+2)
CON: 26% (-4)
LDEM: 12% (-1)
REF: 7% (+1)
GRN: 6% (+2)
via @RedfieldWilton, 18 Jun
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Westminster Voting Intention:
LAB: 47% (+5)
CON: 28% (-3)
LDM: 10% (-3)
RFM: 6% (+1)
SNP: 4% (+1)
GRN: 4% (-1)
Via @Moreincommon_*, 15-19 Jun.
Changes w/ 12-15 May.
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Westminster Voting Intention:
LAB: 46% (+4)
CON: 27% (-4)
LDM: 10% (-2)
GRN: 6% (+2)
REF: 5% (+1)
via @DeltapollUK, 16-19 Jun
(Changes with 12 Jun)