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General Category => Politics & Current Affairs => Topic started by: Nearly Sane on May 02, 2020, 01:59:29 PM
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Quite long quiz about political values.
I am a Libertarian Socialist
https://8values.github.io/index.html
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I am a Libertarian Socialist
Me too, apparently...
Never Talk to Strangers' results (https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=85.9&d=75.0&g=69.0&s=81.8)
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Mine
https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=68.6&d=80.0&g=71.4&s=75.4
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Mine too.
https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=68.6&d=80.0&g=71.4&s=75.4
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Social Democracy is my one.
I wouldn't strongly disagree with that!
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My result is Social Democracy. I am a Social Peaceful Liberal Progressive scoring over 67% on each axis.
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Democratic Socialist - that came as a bit of a shock actually!
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Many of the questions in this exercise reflected American social values. My guess is that its validation, if indeed there has been any, was with just a single socio-political population - that of the USA. In consequence, even for people with right-wing views, a British population will be more liberal and socially concerned than an American population. This will mean that this instrument is of less - even little - value in our society.
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Many of the questions in this exercise reflected American social values. My guess is that its validation, if indeed there has been any, was with just a single socio-political population - that of the USA. In consequence, even for people with right-wing views, a British population will be more liberal and socially concerned than an American population. This will mean that this instrument is of less - even little - value in our society.
And yet of many people I have seen do it elsewhere who are not American, feel it works quite well. I think it is biased to some American issues but I think it is not in terms of its judgements
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I'm a Trotskyist, apparently! :o
I'd've said I was a democratic, left-wing socialist with liberal and green leanings.
https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=89.1&d=75.6&g=62.7&s=75.3
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I'm a Trotskyist, apparently! :o
I'd've said I was a democratic, left-wing socialist with liberal and green leanings.
https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=89.1&d=75.6&g=62.7&s=75.3
Who wants most decisions made by the govt based on your percentages.
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Who wants most decisions made by the govt based on your percentages.
Which of my percentages says that?
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Which of my percentages says that?
The combination of socialist and authority. Your socialism gives huge ownership to the govt and your liberalism is a comparatively low score so the govt ends up with huge power.
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My results. Like so many here Libertarian Socialism:
https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=80.1&d=68.9&g=65.1&s=67.7
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For what it's worth:
https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=69.2&d=56.1&g=53.2&s=71.8
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Social liberalism
https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=63.5&d=64.4&g=60.3&s=72.9
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Libertarian socialism
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Another one
https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=73.7&d=81.1&g=70.2&s=70.7
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err ... maybe it is only libertarian or social democrats or socialists that are going to tolerate finger strain answering 70 odd bloody questions !
ETA: ... to find out something they should probably already know!
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err ... maybe it is only liberal or social democrats that are going to tolerate finger strain answering 70 odd bloody questions !
ETA: ... to find out something they should probably already know!
Libertarian and liberal are not the same thing.
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Libertarian and liberal are not the same thing.
Corrected.
Myself being liberal but not libertarian :)
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Corrected.
Myself being liberal but not libertarian :)
Me too, according to the quiz. I’m definitely not a libertarian, at least not in the sense that Americans use it.
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Me too, according to the quiz. I’m definitely not a libertarian, at least not in the sense that Americans use it.
What sense do you use it?
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Me too, according to the quiz. I’m definitely not a libertarian, at least not in the sense that Americans use it.
My thoughts too.
I don't see myself as a libertarian - rather I see myself as a liberal.
Certainly to me a libertarian is a person who feels that individual freedoms are paramount and trump any notion of government or collective authority. That certainly seems to be the USA view, which typically aligns with the most right wing views. In the current climate American libertarians are the ones thinking that lock-down is an abhorrent restriction on individual freedoms and that if individuals want to do whatever they wish during the coronavirus they should be allowed to. That is certainly not me.
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My thoughts too.
I don't see myself as a libertarian - rather I see myself as a liberal.
Certainly to me a libertarian is a person who feels that individual freedoms are paramount and trump any notion of government or collective authority. That certainly seems to be the USA view, which typically aligns with the most right wing views. In the current climate American libertarians are the ones thinking that lock-down is an abhorrent restriction on individual freedoms and that if individuals want to do whatever they wish during the coronavirus they should be allowed to. That is certainly not me.
But you aren't being judged a 'liberatarian' as a libertarian socialist so that's just confused.
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But you aren't being judged a 'liberatarian' as a libertarian socialist so that's just confused.
Sure but I cannot see how I'm a 'libertarian socialist' which is, in effect a socialist anarchist. I don't really have any anarchist tendencies - I'm much more conventional and conformist for that ;)
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Sure but I cannot see how I'm a 'libertarian socialist' which is, in effect a socialist anarchist. I don't really have any anarchist tendencies - I'm much more conventional and conformist for that ;)
I think it's in relation to the current general norms rather than any sort of absolute statement - you're more libertarian than is currently the norm, which isn't hard.
I came out as a Libertarian Socialist too (https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=77.6&d=75.6&g=67.1&s=81.2 (https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=77.6&d=75.6&g=67.1&s=81.2)) - somewhat telling of the terminology used that my description comes from two of the axes that apparently don't represent my most extreme position ('Progressive'). Certainly, if someone were to ask where I stood on political issues, the economic elements are actually my least concern...
O.
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I think it's in relation to the current general norms rather than any sort of absolute statement - you're more libertarian than is currently the norm, which isn't hard.
I came out as a Libertarian Socialist too (https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=77.6&d=75.6&g=67.1&s=81.2 (https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=77.6&d=75.6&g=67.1&s=81.2)) - somewhat telling of the terminology used that my description comes from two of the axes that apparently don't represent my most extreme position ('Progressive'). Certainly, if someone were to ask where I stood on political issues, the economic elements are actually my least concern...
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If you look at the results I think they are confusing libertarian with liberal, as libertarian isn't one of the 'values' but liberal is.
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And as I mentioned earlier, we are looking at an instrument whose validation is for a particular political and social culture - which is not that of the United Kingdom (nor of western Europe generally).
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But you aren't being judged a 'liberatarian' as a libertarian socialist so that's just confused.
It’s a bit strange to suggest that applying an adjective to a description and then claim that the adjective doesn’t apply.
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And as I mentioned earlier, we are looking at an instrument whose validation is for a particular political and social culture - which is not that of the United Kingdom (nor of western Europe generally).
Yup I agree - I think this is phrased in a largely US-centric manner.
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It’s a bit strange to suggest that applying an adjective to a description and then claim that the adjective doesn’t apply.
That would be odd. Since I didn't do that but rather implied that the context mattered means I am happy with that. Also you seem to have missed that moving a noun to an adjectival qualifier might have an effect.
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https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=73.7&d=71.7&g=67.1&s=70.7