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General Category => Politics & Current Affairs => Topic started by: jeremyp on July 31, 2020, 03:04:17 PM

Title: Andrew Harper
Post by: jeremyp on July 31, 2020, 03:04:17 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-46544144

Sixteen years is quite a long time for manslaughter. Judging by the judge's remarks though, I'm surprised it wasn't life.
Title: Re: Andrew Harper
Post by: Roses on July 31, 2020, 03:13:46 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-46544144

Sixteen years is quite a long time for manslaughter. Judging by the judge's remarks though, I'm surprised it wasn't life.

I think they should have been convicted of murder and the key thrown away, they aren't in the least bit repentant. ;D
Title: Re: Andrew Harper
Post by: jeremyp on July 31, 2020, 03:52:49 PM
I think they should have been convicted of murder
According to the jury, it wasn't murder.
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and the key thrown away, they aren't in the least bit repentant. ;D

They thought they'd got away lightly. According to the BBC report, when the sentences were announced, they weren't smiling.

Title: Re: Andrew Harper
Post by: Robbie on July 31, 2020, 09:00:00 PM
I read just now about how he died, simply dreadful.
Title: Re: Andrew Harper
Post by: Nearly Sane on July 31, 2020, 09:25:04 PM
Get why it was manslaughter. Think the sentence is fine
Title: Re: Andrew Harper
Post by: Harrowby Hall on August 01, 2020, 07:04:44 AM
My understanding of manslaughter is that it applies to events when someone dies as a result of other unlawful acts and the death is not intentional. Given the information apparently available to the jury in this case itappears to be appropriate. My understanding is that the sentence is servere.  Under the circumstances it would appear that justice has been served.

What concerns me, however, is what are we doing as a society, culture, that permits the development of such failures of humanity as these miscreants? They are barely adult and by the time they have completed their sentences thay will be middle-aged.