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Religion and Ethics Discussion => Christian Topic => Topic started by: Owlswing on September 26, 2020, 04:53:28 AM
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https://getpocket.com/explore/item/the-long-history-of-how-jesus-came-to-resemble-a-white-european?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB
An interesting article that, to me anyway, calls into question an awful lot of what I, from childhood to mid-teenage, was taught about Christ.
If his appearance can be 'mucked-about-with' in this fashion and to this extent in the period mentioned what chance has the Bible got of being in any way accurate?
The number of painters being minuscule compared to the number of writers on the same subject.
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https://getpocket.com/explore/item/the-long-history-of-how-jesus-came-to-resemble-a-white-european?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB
An interesting article that, to me anyway, calls into question an awful lot of what I, from childhood to mid-teenage, was taught about Christ.
If his appearance can be 'mucked-about-with' in this fashion and to this extent in the period mentioned what chance has the Bible got of being in any way accurate?
The number of painters being minuscule compared to the number of writers on the same subject.
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When relating to fictional figures why would it matter what the characters look like, whatever they look like surly that would be up to the author to decide.
ippy
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When relating to fictional figures why would it matter what the characters look like, whatever they look like surly that would be up to the author to decide.
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The legacy of Jesus becoming a white european rather than someone of middle eastern extraction (as was certainly the reality) is huge, and of course hugely negative for people who happen not to be of white european origin.
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When relating to fictional figures why would it matter what the characters look like, whatever they look like surly that would be up to the author to decide?
ippy
Because the subject of the portraits is NOT being depicted as a fictional character, all the pictures are supposed to show Jesus Christ, the son of God and the Saviour of all man-kind as he was!
Quite obviously they do not but are still named as being portraits of Christ, yet not one of them, regardless of who painted them or when makes the slightest attempt to make him look like a Palestinian Jew.
The Bible is supposed to present, presents, Christ as the living, breathing Saviour of Mankind!
Why are there no portraits of him made during his ministry, no portrait made by someone who was at the Feeding od the Five Thousand, none by someone who actually witnessed the clearing of the Temple.
Personally I am convinced that Christ is a fictional character, but millions, if not billions, of Christians are convinced that he is, was, real. So why, like the Gospels, were all the records of this monumentally inportant character, basis of the Christian faith, written or painted post-mortem, in the case of the paintings one to two thousand years post-mortem!?
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The legacy of Jesus becoming a white European rather than someone of middle eastern extraction (as was certainly the reality) is huge, and of course hugely negative for people who happen not to be of white European
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Anti-Semitism?
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The legacy of Jesus becoming a white european rather than someone of middle eastern extraction (as was certainly the reality) is huge, and of course hugely negative for people who happen not to be of white european origin.
Yes it would look more correct if the character of Jesus was depicted as though he were of middle eastern extraction whether he existed or not.
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I truly don't understand Antisemitism, it'd make more sense to be Pro-Semitic, 25% so I hear, of all the Nobel prises have been taken by people that happen to be Jewish, even if I'm a few percent out it's still a pretty good contribution to the overall figures, I'm not Jewish myself but I'd rather take them as friends than any kind of foe.
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Anti-Semitism?
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Not just anti semitism - a whole range of prejudices whereby people who are not of white european extraction have been considered to be inferior.
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https://getpocket.com/explore/item/the-long-history-of-how-jesus-came-to-resemble-a-white-european?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB
An interesting article that, to me anyway, calls into question an awful lot of what I, from childhood to mid-teenage, was taught about Christ.
If his appearance can be 'mucked-about-with' in this fashion and to this extent in the period mentioned what chance has the Bible got of being in any way accurate?
The number of painters being minuscule compared to the number of writers on the same subject.
)O(
Jesus' Jewishness is an important part of the story, so to omit this in a painting of him does reduce the painting's accuracy, but doesn't make the Bible itself any more or less accurate.
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Jesus' Jewishness is an important part of the story, so to omit this in a painting of him does reduce the painting's accuracy, but doesn't make the Bible itself any more or less accurate.
I suspect the notion of a blond, blue eyed Jesus is about as accurate as the purported claims in the bible about him.
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Anti-Semitism?
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People make their gods in their own image.
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People make their gods in their own image.
Love the irony in this. Nice one.
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This happens all over the world. Jesus is portrayed having the same physical characteristics as the people from that particular place. You'll find images of black Jesus', Asian Jesus' etc. Don't see what the problem is.
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This happens all over the world. Jesus is portrayed having the same physical characteristics as the people from that particular place. You'll find images of black Jesus', Asian Jesus' etc. Don't see what the problem is.
Sue you will find examples, but I think that is the exception not the rule. I think largely across Africa Jesus is depicted as white not black. In the Philippines Jesus is typically portrayed as a white European not as a Filipino etc etc.