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General Category => Literature, Music, Art & Entertainment => Topic started by: Nearly Sane on November 19, 2020, 11:26:40 AM

Title: Fairytale of New York: BBC Radio 1 will not play original version
Post by: Nearly Sane on November 19, 2020, 11:26:40 AM: FFS!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-54999375
Title: Re: Fairytale of New York: BBC Radio 1 will not play original version
Post by: Anchorman on November 19, 2020, 01:40:53 PM: Quote from: Nearly Sane on November 19, 2020, 11:26:40 AM
FFS!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-54999375

Absolutely nuts.
Title: Re: Fairytale of New York: BBC Radio 1 will not play original version
Post by: Gordon on November 30, 2020, 05:50:20 PM: Nick Cave's take on this.

https://www.theredhandfiles.com/censorship-fairytale-of-new-york/
Title: Re: Fairytale of New York: BBC Radio 1 will not play original version
Post by: Nearly Sane on November 30, 2020, 06:02:10 PM: Quote from: Gordon on November 30, 2020, 05:50:20 PM
Nick Cave's take on this.

https://www.theredhandfiles.com/censorship-fairytale-of-new-york/
That's excellent
Title: Re: Fairytale of New York: BBC Radio 1 will not play original version
Post by: Gordon on November 30, 2020, 06:33:48 PM: I've subscribed to 'The Red Hand Files' for ages, where Nick Cave answers letters from fans.

I've always enjoyed reading his responses to letters even if I don't always agree or empathise with what he says. For those who might like to read more of his thoughts here is the link to his replies.

https://www.theredhandfiles.com/
Title: Re: Fairytale of New York: BBC Radio 1 will not play original version
Post by: Outrider on December 01, 2020, 09:09:11 AM: I really, really can't see what the fuss is about - Radio 1 have looked at their audience and identified that they wouldn't like the original version so they've decided to play a different version by the same original artists.

Meanwhile, Radio 2 have looked at their audience and decided that in general they wouldn't be upset and so they're still playing it, and Radio 6 have left the decision to the individual programmes given that their audience is more diverse.

It's not as though anyone's banning anything, they're playing variations of the song by the artists - who obviously realised that some people wouldn't like the original version or they wouldn't have recorded a different version.

O.
Title: Re: Fairytale of New York: BBC Radio 1 will not play original version
Post by: Anchorman on December 01, 2020, 09:18:58 AM: OK: being a terminally incurable folkie, I know folk songs change with every singer - and this IS a folk song with bells and whistles. However, these usually take years, sometimes decades, to morph and twist....sometimes totally changing the meaning (The calssic being the American "Streets of Laredo" about a cowboy being shot, morphing from 'Pills of White Mercury' which recounts the death of a young man from V.D.), but simply dumbing down a song in case it offends folk years after it was written smacks of PC gone mad.