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General Category => Literature, Music, Art & Entertainment => Topic started by: Roses on April 05, 2021, 12:08:21 PM
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Dusty, what's that?
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Floo,
Dusty, what's that?
Dusty Springfield - best singer ever.
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Dusty, what's that?
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Floo,
Dusty Springfield - best singer ever.
Are they male or female?
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Floo,
Are they male or female?
Dear god - what planet have you been living on? She was female:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dusty_Springfield
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Floo,
Dear god - what planet have you been living on? She was female:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dusty_Springfield
I have never had any interest in pop music, a horrible noise, imo. But getting back to the subject of flags, what has that woman got to do with them?
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Floo,
Dusty Springfield - best singer ever.
Good old Rusty Springboard! Is she still with us?
Owlswing
)O(
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Good old Rusty Springboard! Is she still with us?
Owlswing
)O(
Sadly not. Left us in 1999.
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Floo,
Dear god - what planet have you been living on? She was female:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dusty_Springfield
Response of the day. Ha ha ha.
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Floo,
I have never had any interest in pop music, a horrible noise, imo. But getting back to the subject of flags, what has that woman got to do with them?
Here’s Dusty singing “The Look of Love”. If you think that’s a horrible noise you have cloth ears.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf1d65OHYXo
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Floo,
Here’s Dusty singing “The Look of Love”. If you think that’s a horrible noise you have cloth ears.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf1d65OHYXo
Or rather LR just hears things differently. Anyway flags...
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NS,
Or rather LR just hears things differently. Anyway flags...
Ordinarily yes, but not in this case. Dusty being the greatest singer ever is an immutable law of the universe. You can no more disagree with that than you can disagree with gravity. If you don't believe me by the way, ask Trent – he knows.
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NS,
Ordinarily yes, but not in this case. Dusty being the greatest singer ever is an immutable law of the universe. You can no more disagree with that than you can disagree with gravity. If you don't believe me by the way, ask Trent – he knows.
I don't want to disagree but I have to demur slightly. There are other singers I'm equally attached to - Ella Fitzgerald being the main one. It is all about the interpretation of the song. Dusty was a singer who really did seem to understand the true intent of whichever songwriter she was dealing with. There are very few popular singers who do that for me.
But Ella does that as well so she is up there and then some.
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Moderator This has been split from the Flags thread.
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Trent,
I don't want to disagree but I have to demur slightly. There are other singers I'm equally attached to - Ella Fitzgerald being the main one. It is all about the interpretation of the song. Dusty was a singer who really did seem to understand the true intent of whichever songwriter she was dealing with. There are very few popular singers who do that for me.
But Ella does that as well so she is up there and then some.
Ella I see as the consummate technician for sure, but there's something in Dusty's tone - that yearning intensity - I find no-one else can touch.
By the way, in my home office I have four original albums framed on the wall - one of them is "A Girl Called Dusty".
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NS,
Ordinarily yes, but not in this case. Dusty being the greatest singer ever is an immutable law of the universe. You can no more disagree with that than you can disagree with gravity. If you don't believe me by the way, ask Trent – he knows.
No, LR, and just note that is the pseudonym she prefers being used rather than previous ones, seems to hear a lot of music as painful. So the idea here just isn't even light heartedly arguable.
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NS,
No, LR, and just note that is the pseudonym she refers being used rather than previous ones, seems to hear a lot of music as painful. So the idea here just isn't even light heartedly arguable.
LR/Floo is free to object to if she wishes to, and in any case as she said “I have never had any interest in pop music, a horrible noise, imo…” it didn’t seem unreasonable to reply in like mode.
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The idea of interpretation is a fascinating one, that I have mentioned before on the How Long thread summaries. When trying to assign a classic song, particularly from the Great American Songbook, it's so often a toss up between Frank and Ella, but there are some such as The Way You Look Tonight (Fred) or My Funny Valentine (Chet) where a less gifted singer takes it.
Dusty is one of the all time great singers but her version of indeed Dionne Warwicks version of Anyone Who Heart does not stand up to Cilla's rawness.
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NS,
LR/Floo is free to object to if she wishes to, and in any case as she said “I have never had any interest in pop music, a horrible noise, imo…” it didn’t seem unreasonable to reply in like mode.
She has objected in the past. Just helping you out.
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This is more than somewhat tangential and if too much so, please let me know and I will delete.
Reading above posts - and of course I now have 'Anyone who has a heart ...' running in the background of my mind :) - I am thinking of Barbra Streisand too; and then that links to the fact that I happened to turn to Radio 2 on Sunday evening to hear that it was a repeat of a 'Friday night is music night' programme featuring the music of Marvin Hamlisch, and of course I had to stay with that, and Barbra Streisand's name came up because of 'The way we were'.
Which leads me to the question: Does anyone know if Marvin Hamlisch's education at the Juilliard School of Music was a full-time one, with the regular school curriculum being taught as well as the focus on music? It does appear so, but I can't find the exact info. He won a scholarship at the age of 7 with his playing of 'Goodnight, Irene' and playing it in different keys without hesitation.
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Floo/LR has stated several times in the past that she does not react to music as most others do. I have interpreted this as meaning that she has some degree of amusica - a neurological condition similar to alexia/dyslexia. if so then it reasonable to accept that she has no idea of Mary Isobel Catherine Bernadette O'Brien might possibly be.
I do have a friend who tells me that music has no meaning for him - so LR is not alone. For me, music is a central to my being. A world without music would not be worth living in.
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if so then it reasonable to accept that she has no idea of Mary Isobel Catherine Bernadette O'Brien might possibly be.
I have an aversion to football but can still name the major players from my youth. I would have thought through a process of cultural osmosis she would at least have recognised the name.
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I have an aversion to football but can still name the major players from my youth. I would have thought through a process of cultural osmosis she would at least have recognised the name.
Leaving out Dusty - yes, blasphemy, I know - you mentioned football.
Every Scot on this forum will be heartily sick of the flag wavers (seewotIdidthere) in an Old Firm game, or the aftermath thereof.
The amount of Irish Tricolours and Union flags on display would make the average Martian think this was some kind of international match.
Sadly, this is not the case.
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For the record, I have a range of favourite women singers, from Sarah Vaughn to Ella Fitzgerald, and including on the way Billie Holiday, Amy Winehouse, Dusty Springfield, just to name a few. Often, for me, it is a case of a particular singer who is suited to a particular number, but some, like Ella, are so versatile, that they have produced a range of superb records over many years. I have the complete set of Ella Fitzgerald Song Books. Magnificent. :)
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She started off with The Springfields, a group including her brother or brothers. My parents were fans and I used to hear them play 'Silver Threads and Golden Needles', great song.
Dusty was instrumental in bringingTamla Motown to the UK.
She had no connection to 'The Simpsons'.
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T Does anyone know if Marvin Hamlisch's education at the Juilliard School of Music was a full-time one, with the regular school curriculum being taught as well as the focus on music?
Marvin Hamlisch was a student at the Julliard School of music from 1951 to 1964. I think that you should note that "school" in American English is a generic term which includes all levels of education. Universities are "schools".
The Julliard is one of the world's half dozen or so premier university level conservatoires (along with the Royal College of Music and the Royal Academy of Music in London). Most conservatoires have associated educational facilities which enable very gifted children to develop their musical skills while they are undergoing mainstream education - it was such an institution that Hamlisch attended from the age of 7. In England there are also the Yehudi Menuhin School and Cheethams School in Manchester which perform a similar function.
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Marvin Hamlisch was a student at the Julliard School of music from 1951 to 1964. I think that you should note that "school" in American English is a generic term which includes all levels of education. Universities are "schools".
The Julliard is one of the world's half dozen or so premier university level conservatoires (along with the Royal College of Music and the Royal Academy of Music in London). Most conservatoires have associated educational facilities which enable very gifted children to develop their musical skills while they are undergoing mainstream education - it was such an institution that Hamlisch attended from the age of 7. In England there are also the Yehudi Menuhin School and Cheethams School in Manchester which perform a similar function.
Ah yes, I'd forgotten those last two. I asked the question because the children of a friend of mine had some kind of scholarship to attend the Royal Academy of Music, because of their skills on their chosen instruments, but used to go every Saturday for tuition.
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Floo,
Dusty Springfield - best singer ever.
I wouldn't go that far, but she was certainly quite something.
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NS,
Ordinarily yes, but not in this case. Dusty being the greatest singer ever is an immutable law of the universe. You can no more disagree with that than you can disagree with gravity. If you don't believe me by the way, ask Trent – he knows.
I think you mean Joan Baez. Dusty was to Joan as Bell's is to Laphroaig: good, but not in the same league.
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I think you mean Joan Baez. Dusty was to Joan as Bell's is to Laphroaig: good, but not in the same league.
You see now you've gone and introduced a further layer of complexity. Joan was a singer-songwriter which in my mind I keep as a separate category, perhaps I shouldn't, but I do. So I have many favourites in this category who I don't put in the interpretation grouping.
So Joan, Joni M. Carole King, our own home grown ones including Alison Moyet (of course!).
Singer songwriters' songs come with the advantage of being directly linked to their creator and that brings a different, maybe unique, perspective to the performance.
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Dusty wrote and co-wrote some songs.
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I think you mean Joan Baez. Dusty was to Joan as Bell's is to Laphroaig: good, but not in the same league.
Glorious voices both, of course, but they were each operating in different musical genres - Joan Baez was primarily a solo acoustic folk singer whereas Dusty was more of a pop/soul based singer whose performances usually involved a full-band backing.
As such I'm not sure they can be compared on the basis of one being 'better' or 'worse' than the other, since subjective taste is surely a factor: and on that basis I prefer Dusty.
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Dusty Hare: England fullback 1974 to 1984. Holds the record for the most points scored in a first class Rugby Union career.
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Glorious voices both, of course, but they were each operating in different musical genres - Joan Baez was primarily a solo acoustic folk singer whereas Dusty was more of a pop/soul based singer whose performances usually involved a full-band backing.
As such I'm not sure they can be compared on the basis of one being 'better' or 'worse' than the other, since subjective taste is surely a factor: and on that basis I prefer Dusty.
For me it's not so much the singer as their delivery of individual songs. I've had the privilege of seeing Joan Baez live and while I rate her very highly, "Son of a Preacher Man" is higher on my list of favourite songs than anything she's done.
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https://youtu.be/RcNgs3HVNz4
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Dusty wrote and co-wrote some songs.
She did, but only four as far as I can ascertain. It certainly doesn't push her into singer songwriter territory.
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She did, but only four as far as I can ascertain. It certainly doesn't push her into singer songwriter territory.
I'm not even sure Joan Baez can be considered a 'singer songwriter' since, it seems to me, she either sang traditional folk songs or the songs of others (such as Bob Dylan or The Band) - I'd have thought a 'singer songwriter' would be someone like, say, Paul Simon or Joni Mitchell.
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I'm not even sure Joan Baez can be considered a 'singer songwriter' since, it seems to me, she either sang traditional folk songs or the songs of others (such as Bob Dylan or The Band) - I'd have thought a 'singer songwriter' would be someone like, say, Paul Simon or Joni Mitchell.
After Diamonds and Rust most of her stuff is self penned.
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Happy birthday, Dusty - If You Go Away
https://youtu.be/wyCVxPEPx5Y