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Title: Yes, it would be very ungenerous indeed, since you ask.
Post by: Steve H on July 12, 2021, 01:38:08 PM
You keep thinking the Tories can't get any viler, but they keep proving you wrong. (https://uk.yahoo.com/news/tory-mp-attacks-marcus-rashford-094008604.html)
Title: Re: Yes, it would be very ungenerous indeed, since you ask.
Post by: Roses on July 12, 2021, 02:19:50 PM
YAWN! ::)
Title: Re: Yes, it would be very ungenerous indeed, since you ask.
Post by: Nearly Sane on July 12, 2021, 02:25:25 PM
Yes, it is no surprise that a Tory MP might write something this idiotically stupid. It's so common as to be yawn inducingly tedious
Title: Re: Yes, it would be very ungenerous indeed, since you ask.
Post by: Aruntraveller on July 12, 2021, 03:18:57 PM
Roses I don't understand your "Yawn".

It is surely, in view of events, quite revealing that a politician should react in this way. Or don't you approve of footballers actually caring about the less well off in society?
Title: Re: Yes, it would be very ungenerous indeed, since you ask.
Post by: Roses on July 12, 2021, 03:32:43 PM
Apparently the person concerned has apologised for the remark, although there is no excuse for having made it in the first place. :o I get a bit fed up with some people going on about how terrible the Tories are. Yes some of them are very bad indeed, but people from other parties, like that man Corbyn, are far from perfect.
Title: Re: Yes, it would be very ungenerous indeed, since you ask.
Post by: Nearly Sane on July 12, 2021, 03:40:48 PM
Apparently the person concerned has apologised for the remark, although there is no excuse for having made it in the first place. :o I get a bit fed up with some people going on about how terrible the Tories are. Yes some of them are very bad indeed, but people from other parties, like that man Corbyn, are far from perfect.
First class whataboutery.
Title: Re: Yes, it would be very ungenerous indeed, since you ask.
Post by: Aruntraveller on July 12, 2021, 03:41:30 PM
Apparently the person concerned has apologised for the remark, although there is no excuse for having made it in the first place. :o I get a bit fed up with some people going on about how terrible the Tories are. Yes some of them are very bad indeed, but people from other parties, like that man Corbyn, are far from perfect.

I suggest you take a long hard look at the Tories and their policies. As to Corbyn being far from perfect, this is true, who of us is. But he is not the out and out liar that Boris Johnson is. He's also never been in power so to make a comparison is very difficult.

The Tories are pushing all sorts of laws through under the radar cover that the pandemic has provided. I worry about the actual fabric of our democracy if things continue the way they do.
Title: Re: Yes, it would be very ungenerous indeed, since you ask.
Post by: Roses on July 12, 2021, 04:48:00 PM
I suggest you take a long hard look at the Tories and their policies. As to Corbyn being far from perfect, this is true, who of us is. But he is not the out and out liar that Boris Johnson is. He's also never been in power so to make a comparison is very difficult.

The Tories are pushing all sorts of laws through under the radar cover that the pandemic has provided. I worry about the actual fabric of our democracy if things continue the way they do.

I think he is every bit as bad as Boris.
Title: Re: Yes, it would be very ungenerous indeed, since you ask.
Post by: Aruntraveller on July 12, 2021, 05:04:15 PM
I think he is every bit as bad as Boris.

Then you really aren't paying attention.
Title: Re: Yes, it would be very ungenerous indeed, since you ask.
Post by: Roses on July 12, 2021, 05:16:21 PM
I have no time for Boris, the sooner he is gone the better, however Corbyn is a highly unpleasant piece of work who lied about antisemitism in the Labour party, and was apparently supportive of the IRA. 
Title: Re: Yes, it would be very ungenerous indeed, since you ask.
Post by: Aruntraveller on July 12, 2021, 06:12:47 PM
I have no time for Boris, the sooner he is gone the better, however Corbyn is a highly unpleasant piece of work who lied about antisemitism in the Labour party, and was apparently supportive of the IRA.

So as NS said. Whataboutery. And out of date whataboutery at that.
Title: Re: Yes, it would be very ungenerous indeed, since you ask.
Post by: ProfessorDavey on July 12, 2021, 06:31:37 PM
I have no time for Boris, the sooner he is gone the better, however Corbyn is a highly unpleasant piece of work who lied about antisemitism in the Labour party, and was apparently supportive of the IRA.
As far as I am aware Corbyn is a backbench MP who, even as leader of the opposition, had no actual executive power in running the country.

Boris, on the other hand is Prime Minister. Comparing the two is completely irrelevant as their abilities to impact on our lives are completely different.
Title: Re: Yes, it would be very ungenerous indeed, since you ask.
Post by: Steve H on July 12, 2021, 10:50:39 PM
YAWN! ::)
Rather a childish and pointless comment. I'd've thought you'd agree.
Title: Re: Yes, it would be very ungenerous indeed, since you ask.
Post by: Steve H on July 12, 2021, 10:56:47 PM
Jeremy Corbyn is a bloody good bloke, even if he has made some foolish comments in the past (who hasn't?). Lied about antisemitism in the Labour party? I think you mean Johnson (and stop calling him "Boris"). JC never supported the IRA's terrorism.
Title: Re: Yes, it would be very ungenerous indeed, since you ask.
Post by: Roses on July 13, 2021, 11:14:36 AM
Jeremy Corbyn is a bloody good bloke, even if he has made some foolish comments in the past (who hasn't?). Lied about antisemitism in the Labour party? I think you mean Johnson (and stop calling him "Boris"). JC never supported the IRA's terrorism.

Corbyn and Boris have a lot in common, liars and useless leaders of their parties. 
Title: Re: Yes, it would be very ungenerous indeed, since you ask.
Post by: Robbie on July 13, 2021, 03:59:05 PM
Corbyn and Boris have a lot in common, liars and useless leaders of their parties.

Please share with us the topic or topics about which Jeremy Corbyn lied.
Title: Re: Yes, it would be very ungenerous indeed, since you ask.
Post by: Harrowby Hall on July 13, 2021, 05:24:43 PM
Corbyn and Boris have a lot in common, liars and useless leaders of their parties.

His name is Alexander. 

"Boris" is a brand which he has developed in the expectation (so far justified) that people will fail to recognise the many, serious shortcomings he possesses as a politician and believe the eccentricities which he has developed and exhibited in his non-political life exemplify the man underneath. The name "Boris" is not a name generally favoured by the British - it is one with sinister undertones (and used as such by the English actor William Henry Pratt) which make it very recognisable. A significant portion of the electorate discount the frequent failings of Alexander Johnson and appear to consider them to be "Boris" being "Boris".

Marcus Rashford is a caring and compassionate human being who made an error in a public entertainment spectacle. He deserves much better from from politicians ...
Title: Re: Yes, it would be very ungenerous indeed, since you ask.
Post by: Steve H on July 13, 2021, 11:06:50 PM
Corbyn and Boris have a lot in common, liars and useless leaders of their parties.
Stop calling him Boris! He is Johnson! Do you call any other MP or former PM by their first name only? Calling him Boris is playing his game - it makes him sound friendly and matey, instead of a heartless, lying, unprincipled, adulterous bastard, as he really is.
Title: Re: Yes, it would be very ungenerous indeed, since you ask.
Post by: Nearly Sane on July 13, 2021, 11:14:02 PM
Stop calling him Boris! He is Johnson! Do you call any other MP or former PM by their first name only? Calling him Boris is playing his game - it makes him sound friendly and matey, instead of a heartless, lying, unprincipled, adulterous bastard, as he really is.
Honestly I give no fucks about the adulterous or heartless stuff. That he's a corrupt racist thug is worse, and his proven lying to parliament.
Title: Re: Yes, it would be very ungenerous indeed, since you ask.
Post by: ad_orientem on July 13, 2021, 11:40:35 PM
Stop calling him Boris! He is Johnson! Do you call any other MP or former PM by their first name only? Calling him Boris is playing his game - it makes him sound friendly and matey, instead of a heartless, lying, unprincipled, adulterous bastard, as he really is.

Bozo's acceptable. Clown and all that.
Title: Re: Yes, it would be very ungenerous indeed, since you ask.
Post by: Anchorman on July 14, 2021, 08:50:52 AM
Stop calling him Boris! He is Johnson! Do you call any other MP or former PM by their first name only? Calling him Boris is playing his game - it makes him sound friendly and matey, instead of a heartless, lying, unprincipled, adulterous bastard, as he really is.
   



You missed out 'hypocritical'.
Sorry.
Title: Re: Yes, it would be very ungenerous indeed, since you ask.
Post by: Steve H on July 14, 2021, 10:53:11 AM
   You missed out 'hypocritical'.
Sorry.
Actually, I originally put "hypocritical" in there somewhere, but I kept mistyping and accidentally copying bits and deleting other bits because my craptop was misbehaving, and it got lost.
Title: Re: Yes, it would be very ungenerous indeed, since you ask.
Post by: jeremyp on July 14, 2021, 06:15:51 PM
You keep thinking the Tories can't get any viler, but they keep proving you wrong. (https://uk.yahoo.com/news/tory-mp-attacks-marcus-rashford-094008604.html)

Yes because winning a football competition is far more important than underprivileged children getting proper nutrition.

/sarcasm