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General Category => Politics & Current Affairs => Topic started by: Nearly Sane on September 16, 2021, 07:09:53 AM

Title: AUKUS are go!
Post by: Nearly Sane on September 16, 2021, 07:09:53 AM
Initially, I thought this to be a bit of an Anglophone damp squib but the concentration on this being about the threat from China makes it interesting.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-58564837
Title: Re: AUKUS are go!
Post by: jeremyp on September 16, 2021, 10:41:43 AM
Quote from: Nearly Sane on September 16, 2021, 07:09:53 AM
Initially, I thought this to be a bit of an Anglophone damp squib but the concentration on this being about the threat from China makes it interesting.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-58564837

I agree, but the cynic in me can't help noting the fact that this has totally screwed the deal with France to buy nuclear powered submarines from them. Now American companies (and maybe some British) will get wodges of cash from Australia.
Title: Re: AUKUS are go!
Post by: Nearly Sane on September 16, 2021, 11:05:53 AM
Quote from: jeremyp on September 16, 2021, 10:41:43 AM
I agree, but the cynic in me can't help noting the fact that this has totally screwed the deal with France to buy nuclear powered submarines from them. Now American companies (and maybe some British) will get wodges of cash from Australia.
Agree, though there seems to have been issues with the contracts being completed due to Australian demands on producing components locally.
Title: Re: AUKUS are go!
Post by: Nearly Sane on September 18, 2021, 12:09:16 PM
France is not amused


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58604677
Title: Re: AUKUS are go!
Post by: Udayana on September 20, 2021, 02:57:47 PM
Quote from: jeremyp on September 16, 2021, 10:41:43 AM
I agree, but the cynic in me can't help noting the fact that this has totally screwed the deal with France to buy nuclear powered submarines from them. Now American companies (and maybe some British) will get wodges of cash from Australia.

The French submarines were conventional diesel/electric rather than nuclear, so Australia has made a complete change in strategy over the last 5 years - due to increasing concern, shared by the US and UK, about China.
   
Title: Re: AUKUS are go!
Post by: jeremyp on September 21, 2021, 09:31:02 AM
Quote from: Udayana on September 20, 2021, 02:57:47 PM
The French submarines were conventional diesel/electric rather than nuclear, so Australia has made a complete change in strategy over the last 5 years - due to increasing concern, shared by the US and UK, about China.
 

Yes, you are right. France is obviously totally pissed off but, if you can have nuclear submarines instead of conventional ones, why wouldn't you?